A little heads-up regarding the final chapter's objectives and boss

[V_13]

Recently finished my first playthrough of the remaster on the hardest difficulty and was shocked at how the final boss' first form went down faster than I remembered on the N64. I checked on the wiki and sure enough, it says it can heal itself which it never did in this playthrough.

Later on, when using the Secrets menu to warp straight to the boss for a rematch, I noticed he had two big squares next to his health bar that previously weren't there. When dropping his health to zero, the boss finally started regenerating and depleted one of the aforementioned squares. There was also a new attack it began to use but not sure if it's related to the extra health or not.

I THINK these extra health bars are tied to the two facilities you can destroy earlier in the chapter. For those who want a slightly "harder" boss, you'll want to avoid destroying them... but this is easier said than done due to how the game is programmed. When you enter a room with a destructible facility, the door locks behind you and auto-saves, meaning you can no longer leave until you either destroy the machine or you restart the entire chapter. If you reload the last checkpoint, you're simply placed back inside the locked room. To avoid this scenario, you'll need to make sure you don't accidentally walk inside these rooms. I've yet to test if it's at all possible to reach the boss without completing these objectives... but if it's not, where does the boss get the extra bars then?

I'm sure most players don't want to give the final boss more health so this whole thing is non-issue for them. Still, it sucks that the game seemingly puts alot of effort to prevent players from fighting Oblivion at its full power.

[puddingtopf]

Yes, lowering Oblivion's health is the whole purpose of destroying those two facilities.

And like you said, I doubt many people want the boss to have more health, but even if they do, they'll have to skip other areas (as well as the final PSG piece) so they'll have a longer boss fight, but a shorter level.

[V_13]

Originally posted by puddingtopf:

but even if they do, they'll have to skip other areas (as well as the final PSG piece) so they'll have a longer boss fight, but a shorter level.

With the way the map is designed in such a linear manner, players will have to put conscious effort to intentionally skip those areas. Missing them by accident on a casual playthrough seems incredibly unlikely. This feels like the Mantid Hive changes in the Turok 2 remaster, where they made it impossible for players to miss the Master Computer objective.

It's a shame we're practically railroaded into a disappointing Oblivion fight, though in general the villain is quite a letdown after being hyped in the last game. No doubt a consequence of Turok 3's troubled development.

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

why the ♥♥♥♥ does a mineral proccessing facility give the boss extra health like wtf? XD

[GamerXT]

The mantid hive computer in Turok 2 is optional ? What's the alternative to that then...

[Das Trojanische Pferd]

Originally posted by GamerXT:

The mantid hive computer in Turok 2 is optional ? What's the alternative to that then...

no it is not optional but they in the original you can miss the computer portal and then you can`t protect the totem and need to go through the lvl again to find the computer. in the remaster they moved it in a position where you can`t miss it

[V_13]

Originally posted by Troja:

why the ♥♥♥♥ does a mineral proccessing facility give the boss extra health like wtf? XD

The game states it once fed on entire worlds. I guess this could be interpreted as Oblivion literally consuming the very planets themselves (minerals, metals, everything) after first eating all living and dead matter inhabiting them?

Before Turok 3, I imagine Oblivion was like a physically disabled person who needed its minions to feed it with the facilities. The 1st chapter of this game seems to be its first attempt at eating like it once used to (before the Big Bang) but on a smaller scale seeing as how the attack is restricted to a single city, perhaps a result of Oblivion being unable to use its original eldritch form.

[GamerXT]

That facility is in the lost land though ? Or is that level supposed to be another dimension or something...

Originally posted by Troja:

no it is not optional but they in the original you can miss the computer portal and then you can`t protect the totem and need to go through the lvl again to find the computer. in the remaster they moved it in a position where you can`t miss it

Thanks.

[V_13]

Originally posted by GamerXT:

That facility is in the lost land though ? Or is that level supposed to be another dimension or something...

It seems likely Oblivion's HQ is in the Lost Land. The Flesh Easters are sometimes referred to as extensions of Oblivion, and the novels apparently reveal that race has been living in the Lost Land since its creation, committing acts of genocide here and there, eating countless wildlife and inhabitants.

There was a commercial for Turok 3 that had a CG Oblivion pulsating inside a womb with an umbilical cord (also seen in the logo of the game), maybe it was growing from all the bloodshed spilled by the Flesh Eaters?

The commercial in the link below has clips of that womb commercial, but the longer version that had Adon or Danielle saying "Who will deliver us when the evil is reborn" cannot be found anymore sadly.

https://youtu.be/GjvsEBT_aqU?si=TDHOfSskYyHas6y6