The 65% bug (73% glitch) Ends your game if you can't solve it (I solved it)

[Gan]

My APR door guy wouldn't let me in at 65%. (The percentages are weird for me I think because I don't do most of the subverted missions in this run, and I do none of the assassination missions, or gun-runner missions in the second map because I'm just trying to beat Far Cry 2 - Infamous Redux mod, no death.)

Anyways, I am killing off my buddies systematically to make the end battle easier, and I believe that buddies dying at particular moments might be the source of the infamous "73% glitch"...

I tried killing the guard over and over, then tried doing an assassination mission, and finally I found a post mentioning that if you kill your rescue ready buddy and do a job for another one, the guard will let you through again. I only had 2 buddies, so I decided to see if it worked without killing any more of them. I went and rescued the one you can find in a train on the left side of the second Map, met them at Mike's and did a mission for them, and went straight back to town and the guard let me accept the APR mission, FINALLY. (BTW I didn't use any buses and just drove to each location to avoid load times, because taking the bus to the town sometimes results in the town being aggro, which might affect the glitch?)

[thirdkeeper]

Originally posted by Gan:

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

Ya know.. In the past few months I've been through the game 6 times with just a pistol
and not had any problems at all. Speed isn't the path to success. All you need is to know
what's necessary, and what you should avoid doing. - With enough trial and error guess
work you might figure it out eventually.

If you do please write a detailed guide to help others from making the same mistakes.

Speed is the only path to success for me now because on my subsequent runs I've gained most of my satisfaction in the gradual optimization of the run; Organically discovering how little I actually need to do in order to progress, trivialising things that used to be a pain, and pushing the game to its limits by essentially breaking core aspects like the malaria missions, are the things I am having fun with right now. I am still interested in figuring out how to play it this way, while making it past this glitch, and if I actually am forced to play the way you want me to play I would sooner move on to a more interesting challenge.

I've played this game on 360 many times since the day it released. So I am not interested in a casual playthrough, or even just a deathless run at this point, since my interest was mostly in discovering how hard it would be and whether or not I could do it. Now I know how hard it is and that I could indeed do it rather easily if I just play safe... but doing it just for the sake of doing it isn't enough motivation at this point.

We play in different ways and gain satisfaction from this game through alternate means. The entire beauty of this game is the freedom of choice it offers players, therefore, from my perspective, if I have to look up a guide in order to play it "the right way", the way you want me to play it, it would completely defeat the purpose of me playing it.

i dont "want" you to play any way or the other. I may have gotten a little annoyed
that you're ignoring advice, but I've been trying to help.

What I don't believe is your reason for posting. So no need to reply.

- Have Fun -

[Gan]

I started again and got the 65% glitch, but got past it this time. Seems like not doing the malaria missions is contributing to breaking it.

What I did this time:

On the Northern map I skipped all side-quests/Malaria missions/subverted missions. I rescued one buddy, and executed the one by the plane. I killed no other buddies.

On the southern map I killed none of my buddies. I rescued the buddy in the brewery because the game told me to before I could get the first mission. Then I continued skipping all the subverted missions, and sure enough I got to 65% and dude wouldn't let me in.
At this point I hadn't done any malaria missions, and I remembered when I got by this with Frank that I tried doing a malaria mission before doing the buddy rescuing/mission thing to see if that fixed it.
So this time I did the malaria mission first and went back to town just to see, and still wouldn't let me in. Then I rescued the buddy in the train, and this time they were added to my buddy list and showed up at Mike's. I went back to the door man on the way to Mike's and still wouldn't let me in. Once I did a mission for the rescued buddy, the door-man would let me in again.

So what this means is that getting to this point without doing any of the malaria missions is one thing that causes it to break. Because the last time this happened I also did zero malaria missions, and to try and fix it I just rescued the train buddy and the buddy system broke.

I wonder what this means? It's like the game doesn't expect the player to ignore such easy missions until this point in the game and something about it is breaking it. It's almost as if the guard is supposed to tell me I look sick and to get some medicine before I can come in or something...

No idea if this happens in vanilla, but I'm not going to be the one to find out, because the mouse-aiming in vanilla is completely messed up for some reason and I donno how to fix it without mods.

[jakethegreatwhite]

im having the same glitch where the guy wont open the door, and upon killing my buddy and doing a mission for another one, the game just bugs out again as soon as i take the bus back near the town, it says i need to leave the cease fire zone... and the guard is again bugged and wont open the door, ive already wasted hours trying to fix this so if your having this same issue, save your time and dump this game

[Gan]

I've found that the most important part about trying to fix the glitch, is saving a buddy. You have to rescue one from the train or a base, then do a buddy mission.

I made sure not to take the bus when I did this, just in case.

I also always leave extra save games at like 50% and 73% and stuff.

Also, every time it's worked for me, I didn't kill an extra buddy... I would only try that if everything else fails. In fact killing buddies (or just having them die) seems to cause more problems most of the time.

You should also try doing a malaria mission if you have one available before messing with the buddy rescue/mission stuff, because in my experience if you have one available and don't do it before you rescue the buddy, it won't work a lot of the time.

Last but not least the people who commented above insist that you should rescue every buddy you can to help avoid the glitch. Only problem with that is a player on a blind run wouldn't necessarily know where or how many there are so it is a fundamentally flawed solution requiring the use of a walkthrough before playing.


This is the best Far Cry game in terms of how hardcore its gameplay is, and the method it uses to tell its complex series of storylines. The buddy system is really unique and the lack of anything like it in subsequent releases leaves a lot to be desired. So it's worth playing again if you don't have a backup save, before giving up on it completely... imo.

[thirdkeeper]

Originally posted by Gan:

Last but not least the people who commented above insist that you should rescue every buddy you can to help avoid the glitch. Only problem with that is a player on a blind run wouldn't necessarily know where or how many there are so it is a fundamentally flawed solution requiring the use of a walkthrough before playing.

This is just dead wrong and you don't have to read a "walk through" to find out.

[EDIT] ================================================
It wasn't you avoiding 'malaria runs' that stopped the attacks from happening.
There are actually 5 points in the game when attacks stop no matter how you
play the game.

NO "walk through" necessary to find that out. If you'd read half a page in the
first chapter fourth article 'Exploiting The Malaria Mechanic' you would have
known that, - AND the locations for Freeing Buddies.

- No one told you to kill them all or to do all the buddy rescues or buddy favor
missions. - In fact you can ignore those completely without messing up the game.
======================================================[E]

Your repeated failures are undoubtedly caused by the other things you've done
trying to avoid medicine runs.

Freeing Captured Buddies before those assignments are given to you is the only
way to fix the 27, 73, 84% bug, and it will NOT negatively affect the game in any way.

There are 3 in the north and 2 in the south, and their locations are clearly stated and
marked on the maps in my guide.

[BigTinz]

Originally posted by jakethegreatwhite:

im having the same glitch where the guy wont open the door, and upon killing my buddy and doing a mission for another one, the game just bugs out again as soon as i take the bus back near the town, it says i need to leave the cease fire zone... and the guard is again bugged and wont open the door, ive already wasted hours trying to fix this so if your having this same issue, save your time and dump this game

I see that you've posted your save on mod db. I'll check it out.

[BigTinz]

Jake, I replied to you on mod DB with a few solutions to your issue.

[Gan]

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

Originally posted by Gan:

Last but not least the people who commented above insist that you should rescue every buddy you can to help avoid the glitch. Only problem with that is a player on a blind run wouldn't necessarily know where or how many there are so it is a fundamentally flawed solution requiring the use of a walkthrough before playing.

This is just dead wrong and you don't have to read a "walk through" to find out.

[EDIT] ================================================
It wasn't you avoiding 'malaria runs' that stopped the attacks from happening.
There are actually 5 points in the game when attacks stop no matter how you
play the game.

NO "walk through" necessary to find that out. If you'd read half a page in the
first chapter fourth article 'Exploiting The Malaria Mechanic' you would have
known that, - AND the locations for Freeing Buddies.

- No one told you to kill them all or to do all the buddy rescues or buddy favor

The solution is flawed in that it requires the player to go back in time or start a new game, and also look up a bunch of stuff that spoils aspects of the game, aspects which make the game interesting, like stumbling onto buddies blindly for the first time. Not flawed as in it doesn't work, though evidently it doesn't 100% of the time either.

I never claimed it was me not doing malaria missions that stopped them from happening. Go quote me on that if you think I did? I literally specifically said that malaria attacks stop happening at certain points, but when the attacks happen is based on how much in-game time passes, and the pills are removed by missions. So if you don't take busses and do all the missions in one night you can literally do them all without doing any malaria missions, or having any attacks you don't have pills for.

I love how you split hairs by claiming you don't need a walkthrough to know this stuff, then suggest players look up your guide.

Honestly, man, it feels more like your ego is just hurt that anyone would try to figure out anything in this game without looking at your amazingly perfect guide. No idea why you would be annoyed by a player trying to figure stuff out on their own. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ weird tbh.

[thirdkeeper]

First - If you quote my post at all quote the whole post or not at all.

INFO you clipped:

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- No one told you to kill them all or to do all the buddy rescues or buddy favor
missions. - In fact you can ignore those completely without messing up the game.
======================================================[E]

Your repeated failures are undoubtedly caused by the other things you've done
trying to avoid medicine runs.

Freeing Captured Buddies before those assignments are given to you is the only
way to fix the 27, 73, 84% bug, and it will NOT negatively affect the game in any way.

There are 3 in the north and 2 in the south, and their locations are clearly stated and
marked on the maps in my guide.

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My reply to that completely confused and derogatory mess above:

Excuse me? - If you know when malaria attacks end and when they start up again
you can play nearly half the game with no attacks at all.

I'd prefer it if you never read the guide and get just what you deserve. - So -

Thanks ! You're off to a great start, and you seem to be maintaining. Can't wait to hear
your next incoherent report of abject failure.

Just don't confuse other players with incorrect 'conclusions' based on your
disorganized experiments until you've tested and retested to prove them yourself,
or I'll have no choice but to correct your BS yet again.

- The reason you DON'T know is because you refuse to know.

Ignorance is the result of ignoring truth. - Your choices are the perfect
example of what not to do.

- Thanks for the demonstration. - Others can certainly learn from that.

- Have fun -

[Gan]

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

First - If you quote my post at all quote the whole post or not at all.

INFO you clipped:

---

- No one told you to kill them all or to do all the buddy rescues or buddy favor
missions. - In fact you can ignore those completely without messing up the game.
======================================================[E]

Your repeated failures are undoubtedly caused by the other things you've done
trying to avoid medicine runs.

Freeing Captured Buddies before those assignments are given to you is the only
way to fix the 27, 73, 84% bug, and it will NOT negatively affect the game in any way.

There are 3 in the north and 2 in the south, and their locations are clearly stated and
marked on the maps in my guide.

---

My reply to that completely confused and derogatory mess above:

Excuse me? - If you know when malaria attacks end and when they start up again
you can play nearly half the game with no attacks at all.

I'd prefer it if you never read the guide and get just what you deserve. - So -

Thanks ! You're off to a great start, and you seem to be maintaining. Can't wait to hear
your next incoherent report of abject failure.

Just don't confuse other players with incorrect 'conclusions' based on your
disorganized experiments until you've tested and retested to prove them yourself,
or I'll have no choice but to correct your BS yet again.

- The reason you DON'T know is because you refuse to know.

Ignorance is the result of ignoring truth. - Your choices are the perfect
example of what not to do.

- Thanks for the demonstration. - Others can certainly learn from that.

- Have fun -

Sorry for bruising your ego by attempting to discover the game for myself instead of referring to your holy doctrine. I will be quiet and play the game the way you instruct from now on and no other way. And I will not share my experiences with anyone else as they are akin to blasphemy and definitely incorrect if they aren't what you, the holiest of Far Cry 2 scholars, recommend.

Yeah I read about as much of this comment as I did of your incredibly perfect guide.

[thirdkeeper]

You've got it backwards. I respect you for your spirited efforts and I wish you success in
any way you wish to play the game. - PLUS I've enjoyed your posts and hope you will
continue with the informative updates.

Just please avoid - if you can - misleading other players with untested unconfirmed
misinformation. - I'm referring to the Free Captured buddies solution.

The game comes pre-ganked as it is, and it's difficult enough already for those
struggling to work through it successfully.

You don't have to fix the Free Buddy glitch, but PLEASE don't discourage others from
using the only solution that HAS been tested and proven successful. - Understand?

- Thanks for your continued consideration and respect to the community. -