why is the pkm so bad?

[dragon864789]

like really, it takes like 10 or more shots usually to kil a guy or so it feels like it and if im lucky a few (this is without upgrades) like is the lmg's in this game a joke or is it just the pkm? please tell me its just the pkm


also spaz-12 vs silence shotgun??

[thirdkeeper]

It's not just the PKM. - In Vanilla the AI are bullet sponges.

But head shots are one hit kills.

For more realistic damage and quicker take downs use Hunters' Redux. - Also AI carry
all weapons, and enemy factions fight each other making the place far more lively and
often an enemy patrol will show up in the middle of a conflict and provide the ideal distraction. Much more realistic and fun. Features - Extra Carry slot for the flare gun
and holster weapons option.

Best MOD
Redux - No directional player marker on map. Has Flare and Holster options.
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/FarCry2Crew/discussions/6/4246299157469759644/


Redux Original Maps - Has Player Directional Marker - No Flare or Holster.
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/FarCry2Crew/discussions/6/4246299157469759644/

I just think the silenced shotgun is too goofy, and I prefer the kick of the SPAS.

Hate the USAS.


- Hope this helps -


FC2Crew
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/FarCry2Crew

[dragon864789]

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

It's not just the PKM. - In Vanilla the AI are bullet sponges.

But head shots are one hit kills.

For more realistic damage and quicker take downs use Hunters' Redux. - Also AI carry
all weapons, and enemy factions fight each other making the place far more lively and
often an enemy patrol will show up in the middle of a conflict and provide the ideal distraction. Much more realistic and fun. Features - Extra Carry slot for the flare gun
and holster weapons option.

Best MOD
Redux - No directional player marker on map. Has Flare and Holster options.
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/FarCry2Crew/discussions/6/4246299157469759644/


Redux Original Maps - Has Player Directional Marker - No Flare or Holster.
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/FarCry2Crew/discussions/6/4246299157469759644/

I just think the silenced shotgun is too goofy, and I prefer the kick of the SPAS.

Hate the USAS.


- Hope this helps -


FC2Crew
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/FarCry2Crew

so this mod will just make killing eaiser for both sides? like in S.T.A.L.K.E.R?

[abcd]

no it just makes the game easier for the player.

pkm is useful for scaring the AI and getting them to take cover, shooting through cover blindly to flush them out, and for having a gigantic magazine. otherwise it's not very good.

in terms of realism I assume the barrel is bent out of shape from repeated full-auto fire for decades and the gas seal is flimsy so a lot of the powder charge is wasted. also 5.56, which lots of people can take two or three rounds from and keep fighting normally.

[thirdkeeper]

The SAW is the better heavy hitter. Lower recoil and better handling. - Just have to wait
for the second map to get it.

I always use the PKM as my back up weapon until I can get the SAW, and I have no
complaints about it's usefulness.

[upcoast]

Either pkm or saw benefit from short bursts any way ya the saw is quite an upgrade from the pkm.

Ps, Uzi is fairly good weapon and underated.

[thirdkeeper]

Originally posted by upcoast:

Either pkm or saw benefit from short bursts any way ya the saw is quite an upgrade from the pkm.

Ps, Uzi is fairly good weapon and underated.

Very much agreed. - Very effective, but for me for me it burns through ammo too
quickly and the spray at range limits it's versatility.

- Thanks for the comments - 8 )

[dragon864789]

Originally posted by Tausoldier:

no it just makes the game easier for the player.

pkm is useful for scaring the AI and getting them to take cover, shooting through cover blindly to flush them out, and for having a gigantic magazine. otherwise it's not very good.

in terms of realism I assume the barrel is bent out of shape from repeated full-auto fire for decades and the gas seal is flimsy so a lot of the powder charge is wasted. also 5.56, which lots of people can take two or three rounds from and keep fighting normally.

so it isnt a mod to make its easier to kill them and easier to be killed?

[thirdkeeper]

This should give you a general idea of the differences.

Thanks to Boggalog for this very helpful info:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/19900/discussions/0/3104640984536271560/?tscn=1615484718#c3104640984542857236

[dragon864789]

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

This should give you a general idea of the differences.

Thanks to Boggalog for this very helpful info:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/19900/discussions/0/3104640984536271560/?tscn=1615484718#c3104640984542857236

so just more ammo?

[dragon864789]

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

It's not just the PKM. - In Vanilla the AI are bullet sponges.

But head shots are one hit kills.

For more realistic damage and quicker take downs use Hunters' Redux. - Also AI carry
all weapons, and enemy factions fight each other making the place far more lively and
often an enemy patrol will show up in the middle of a conflict and provide the ideal distraction. Much more realistic and fun. Features - Extra Carry slot for the flare gun
and holster weapons option.

Best MOD
Redux - No directional player marker on map. Has Flare and Holster options.
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/FarCry2Crew/discussions/6/4246299157469759644/


Redux Original Maps - Has Player Directional Marker - No Flare or Holster.
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/FarCry2Crew/discussions/6/4246299157469759644/

I just think the silenced shotgun is too goofy, and I prefer the kick of the SPAS.

Hate the USAS.


- Hope this helps -


FC2Crew
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/FarCry2Crew

i noticed the mod wants me to replace some files in the game and use its launcher injstead of the steam one?

[thirdkeeper]

Originally posted by dragon864789:

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

This should give you a general idea of the differences.

Thanks to Boggalog for this very helpful info:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/19900/discussions/0/3104640984536271560/?tscn=1615484718#c3104640984542857236

so just more ammo?

Specifically, slight bumps in ammo and syringes. They're probably both needed in
Redux to balance out the effect of AI using all weapons. - The game isn't any easier
when AI commonly carry launchers, flame throwers and the bloody USAS full auto
shotgun. <<shudder>>

[dragon864789]

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

Originally posted by dragon864789:

so just more ammo?

Specifically, slight bumps in ammo and syringes. They're probably both needed in
Redux to balance out the effect of AI using all weapons. - The game isn't any easier
when AI commonly carry launchers, flame throwers and the bloody USAS full auto
shotgun. <<shudder>>

OKAY.....it feels like S.T.A.L.K.E.R but without the easy heals, also pkm now feels way better

[thirdkeeper]

Originally posted by dragon864789:

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

Specifically, slight bumps in ammo and syringes. They're probably both needed in
Redux to balance out the effect of AI using all weapons. - The game isn't any easier
when AI commonly carry launchers, flame throwers and the bloody USAS full auto
shotgun. <<shudder>>

OKAY.....it feels like S.T.A.L.K.E.R but without the easy heals, also pkm now feels way better

Nice. - It's the first weapon I buy after the required first purchase. The rest I scavenge
until I can afford it. Then it's the reliable back-up for when found weapons jam. - My
primary is the AR 16 right from the start.

You have the install figured out? - Directions should be included. Launcher is Multi-fix
and necessary.

[dragon864789]

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

Originally posted by dragon864789:

OKAY.....it feels like S.T.A.L.K.E.R but without the easy heals, also pkm now feels way better

Nice. - It's the first weapon I buy after the required first purchase. The rest I scavenge
until I can afford it. Then it's the reliable back-up for when found weapons jam. - My
primary is the AR 16 right from the start.

You have the install figured out? - Directions should be included. Launcher is Multi-fix
and necessary.

no just replacing files did it, also the shotgun secondarey is now useful, pkm is now real deadly . also its harder to tell where i am now

[thirdkeeper]

The launcher is Multi-Fix for Far Cry 2 - without it you could end up with game
ending bugs. - That's why Hunter bundles it in with Redux.

If you don't have it - get it, and always use it to launch the game.

Thanks To:

Originally posted by FoxAhead:

Better support for game files recognition
(size, checksums etc.). Especially for Uplay version.

Update

New version 1.9.0.50
https://github.com/FoxAhead/Far-Cry-2-Multi-Fixer/releases/tag/v1.9

Important ! - How to run in steam:

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/FarCry2Crew/discussions/6/2269194717034294775/

Added Info generously supplied by Hunter - Thanks !

Originally posted by Hunter:

Along with using the multi-fixer, I recommend disabling full screen optimizations, and running as an admin. Both of these things are
done by right clicking > properties of the fc2.exe file.

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I like hunters maps but I hate squinting at the mini map to pinpoint my location.

Redux With Original Vanilla Maps
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/FarCry2Crew/discussions/6/4246299157469759644/

Weapons performance was one of the first things I noticed. It allowed for the visceral
and fluid response in combat that was somewhat lacking in the vanilla.