How powerful is this games engine compared to the Gambryo engine of Fallout New vegas?

[SuspiciouspegasusTTV]

I honestly am just blown away/super impressed on how this engine works/is so powerful given it came out in 2008. How does the game look so good for a game coming out in 2008?

and would it theoretically be possible to make a game like FNV using this engine or just an RPG game using the engine? (of course I ask for science)

[triple_agent]

I believe none of us is married to any digital game, but companies probably understand it the best. Some of them may be entitled to a franchise, although I believe the paradigm in work is functional. Remake in my perspective is a secondary option, coming in when nothing better can be put forth and something has to be put forth, to keep the pendulum swinging. We like 'Far Cry 2' but the game is not the only game out there, nor is it meant to contain all of gameplay qualities one can ever experience. Some day we will hang it up for sure, finish play and simply never return again. Excessive effort to postpone that moment is a misplaced effort, in my opinion. Nothing forced is good when it comes to recreation and entertainment. There are other things out there waiting to be explored and that notion by no mean should be a dishonor to what we have now. It is paradoxical to say there is no future because there is present time, but in order to properly experience the present, one must let the future stream come organically. It is true the future is not an experience, unlike the present, but present time cannot be a continuum without the notion and acceptance of the unknown. I would like to see though someone argue there is no present because there is past. Wait.

When it comes to the "true developer vision", that is another argument raised sometimes by the modders: "we fixed the game according to what it should have been" - according to whom and whom for? Again, it is what it is. I agree all modding effort should be appreciated but simultaneously I disagree any mod contains the ultimate truth about the game. One may like the game or not, see some potential or not - but this is another topic. Some mods are more useful to some players, some mods are less useful to some players, that is all to it. I do imagine though that every modder dreams of somehow replacing the original game with own creation - the instinct to dominate, especially in a competitive field.

It can be done, certainly for oneself. If you enjoy your game, it is already a major success. Once I have modded 'Doom 3' for myself. I enjoyed the game a lot better, but after some time I realized to probably be alone or among very few who use the mod given and that the mod is very much tailored to my personal preference and a lot of players could dislike it, even myself did I see faults in the way it was set up. Moreso, I did not enjoy unmodded 'Doom 3'. The mod was mostly about basic gunplay, balance, stuff. The question is, if I forced everyone to use my mod or make the mod "canon" - would I stop being alone or feeling to be alone? Further question is, could even the multiplayer or massive multiplayer online experience stop my sense of loneliness? Would having a family with children of own, a pet dog or cat, an aquarium with the fishes, a cosy place to live, make me feel not lonely? We are human and no digital medium is going to answer our questions, because our journey goes beyond, our questions also do come from beyond. We are biological creatures of origin, we are hunters emerging from the wild planes of primordial supercontinent and we are also wanderers and seekers by nature. If we give up gaming and go seeking into the zone of our souls, minds and spirits, so be it - make it worthy experience. If you can find a shard of that eternal unrest in a digital gaming medium, then you are lucky to have found anything at all. I do not play 'Doom 3' anymore.

It would be nice to visit Africa one day, even though that is grossly unprecise statement.

[thirdkeeper]

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[triple_agent]

Let me put it like this:

You know, there's a book I read, a long time ago. I still think about it, every day. It helps me understand life out here. The book talks about men, about what motivates them. It's simple, really: a living being seeks above all to discharge its strength. Life itself is will to power.

For the "grossly unprecise statement", Africa is a continent and one can visit either part of it, have different experience. Egypt is Africa and so is Zimbabwe. Likewise with Europe. Spain is not Poland and France is not Germany.

Anyhow, I believe modders mod because they can, not because they see reason to, which is not to say there are no critical patches or legitimate game problems addressed among these.

[thirdkeeper]

Perhaps you misunderstood my '?'

The subject I was referring to is quite narrowly defined.

I was speaking only of the benefits of mods preserving and refining game play.
It's a very simple basic uncomplicated reality. You prefer your game unmodded,
and I have no problem with that.

[BigTinz]

Originally posted by Iron Maiden Eddie (Real)☆:

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

You should see Realism + Redux - If I'm not mistaken, someone tweaked the engine.

Nah, you can't tweak the engine. Like all other mods, Redux just tweaks the .dll to fix some bugs and alters the game files. Nothing too technical. Most you can do is through scripting, which Scubrah has done some wonders with lately.

That's not accurate.

Redux, and Realism+ Redux by extension doesn't even need to tweak the dunia.dll any more.

All .dll changes are handled by injection at launch via the Multi-Fixer now.

We've extensively tweaked things under the hood to the get absolute most out of the engine when using the Ultra graphics options.

[thirdkeeper]

Originally posted by BigTinz:

Redux, and Realism+ Redux by extension doesn't even need to tweak the dunia.dll any more.

All .dll changes are handled by injection at launch via the Multi-Fixer now.

We've extensively tweaked things under the hood to the get absolute most out of the engine when using the Ultra graphics options.

BLAM! - That's what i needed to hear. - Thanks BT 8 )

[triple_agent]

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

You prefer your game unmodded,
and I have no problem with that.

Great. Take a look at it in a most constructive manner, because the phenomenon of wanting to play an older game either vanilla or just with a handful of basic fixes - not for historical recreation but for entertainment - tells a lot of good. I do agree as well that modding scene and having there plenty of interesting options to choose from, does prolong interest in the title. What it matters the most, in my opinion, is the community and a sense of belonging - speaking of creativity and self expression, that is.

I probably tried to mod 'Doom 3' in own amateurish way back in the day, because I believed there is a legitimate realistic shooter hidden somewhere underneath all the zombie cheesy apocalypse. I had a mod in mind, call it "Fear of Doom" sometimes. I thought that if to tweak gunplay to make it more visceral ('Killatomate' did a great job regarding this one, from older entries), as well as introduce a 'F.E.A.R.' psychological horror gimmick conveyed through environmental storytelling - only within 'Doom 3' ambiance of abstract half-dead industrial complex - that would be neat. Protagonist was to fight only human-based opponents, combat drones and turrets. I imagined further that if to move 'Doom 3' slightly towards 'F.E.A.R.' but without much fancy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ 'F.E.A.R.' was stumbling over, that could maybe do.

I guess intuitively I have estimated that was all either beyond my scope or not worth of my time altogether. Who knows, maybe some day in the future, when I actually can do code.

If to think about it, in terms of 'Far Cry 2' - at least under actual conditions - one could not really do any sensible indoors thing. With 'Far Cry' the original, perhaps chances are better.