Funny how some people call FC2 boring and complain about respawns

[ShaDoW]

Yet go play crap games like Dark Souls where you die a hundred times and have to fight the same enemies over and over again.

If that's their definition of fun and challenging then I'll stick to FC2 and its "boring" gameplay and mechanics.

[Logan]

But that is one of the key reasons Souls genre is so popular. It's all about punishing the player and skill curve of movement learning, grinding and loadout building, so next time you won't die and make your way through the area so you can reach next safe space.

Totally different genres.

[Banana Duck ඞ]

Dark Souls is crap!? LMAO, Dark Souls is a masterpiece. You do have a very good taste in games though (disregarding Dark Souls) as i just checked out what games you play. Ive always felt that the difficulty aspect of Dark Souls is over-rated though, as i actually think that the difficulty of that game is one part of that game that isnt actually done well, grinding to make your character stronger is not difficulty done well and it unbalances the game. Ive also never understood why so many people say that Dark Souls is one of the hardest games ever as i didnt find it hard at all

[Virago]

I'm not sure Dark Souls is relatable. I like Far Cry 2 for its believability (no zombies/mutants etc.), immersion bolstered by first person perspective, uninterrupted gameplay flow, sense of isolation, proper weather system. And also because it touches a little bit on the survival genre. Subsistence is Far Cry 2 cousin in my opinion in a lot of aspects. It's a game developed by oner person and it's still in development. Worth checking out if you like the survival genre.

[thirdkeeper]

I think the lesson here is that you can't prop up one game by tearing down another.

People shouldn't be criticized for personal preferences. The subject is gaming, and
games differ as broadly one to another as people do. - You can tout merits and
deficiencies of each but comparing one to another carries little substance when
speaking of different species. Likes and dislikes are common among closest friends
and even identical twins.

Let us step back a pace and tout the pros and cons of the titles we like, and leave
the rest to enjoy what we ourselves cannot.

- Thanks for the feed -

[ShaDoW]

Originally posted by Logan:

But that is one of the key reasons Souls genre is so popular. It's all about punishing the player and skill curve of movement learning, grinding and loadout building, so next time you won't die and make your way through the area so you can reach next safe space.

Totally different genres. :squirtmeh:

I frankly don't see what's so great about dying over and over and memorizing enemy positions to try to avoid them, roll over a hundred times to dodge etc.

Originally posted by Banana Duck:

Dark Souls is crap!? LMAO, Dark Souls is a masterpiece. You do have a very good taste in games though (disregarding Dark Souls) as i just checked out what games you play. Ive always felt that the difficulty aspect of Dark Souls is over-rated though, as i actually think that the difficulty of that game is one part of that game that isnt actually done well, grinding to make your character stronger is not difficulty done well and it unbalances the game. Ive also never understood why so many people say that Dark Souls is one of the hardest games ever as i didnt find it hard at all

I said crap not in overall quality but in game mechanics. I don't think Dark Souls games are that difficulty either but they're extremely boring. You need to memorize enemy position and avoid combat something I hate to do in a game. This is what i can't understand why some people who criticize FC2 can play DS with no problems where the enemy respawns are much worse. It's almost like they hate combat but cant bother enough to avoid the outposts in FC while doing so to enemies in DS.

I'm just bashing these types of people who in my view are hypocrites.

[ShaDoW]

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

I think the lesson here is that you can't prop up one game by tearing down another.

People shouldn't be criticized for personal preferences. The subject is gaming, and
games differ as broadly one to another as people do. - You can tout merits and
deficiencies of each but comparing one to another carries little substance when
speaking of different species. Likes and dislikes are common among closest friends
and even identical twins.

Let us step back a pace and tout the pros and cons of the titles we like, and leave
the rest to enjoy what we ourselves cannot.

- Thanks for the feed -

All I'm saying is that they're up for playing a game where the enemies respawn everytime you die or load a checkpoint but can't do the same for another game. And despite being from different genres the same solution still apply to both games that all you have to do is get past those enemies avoiding confrontation where the only difference is that in FC2 you can engage in combat with these enemies without having to lose 2-3 minutes per enemy which is even more convenient than DS.

To me it's seems like they don't care enough for the game in question FC2 or just don't like FPS games overall.

[thirdkeeper]

With all due respect - This isn't a 'people-bashing' forum.

Let cooler heads prevail - they always do in the end, and apart from straying from
FC2 discussion this direction leads away from civil discussion.

Thanks for your input and consideration.

[thirdkeeper]

Originally posted by ShaDoW:

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

I think the lesson here is that you can't prop up one game by tearing down another.

People shouldn't be criticized for personal preferences. The subject is gaming, and
games differ as broadly one to another as people do. - You can tout merits and
deficiencies of each but comparing one to another carries little substance when
speaking of different species. Likes and dislikes are common among closest friends
and even identical twins.

Let us step back a pace and tout the pros and cons of the titles we like, and leave
the rest to enjoy what we ourselves cannot.

- Thanks for the feed -

All I'm saying is that they're up for playing a game where the enemies respawn everytime you die or load a checkpoint but can't do the same for another game. And despite being from different genres the same solution still apply to both games that all you have to do is get past those enemies avoiding confrontation where the only difference is that in FC2 you can engage in combat with these enemies without having to lose 2-3 minutes per enemy which is even more convenient than DS.

To me it's seems like they don't care enough for the game in question FC2 or just don't like FPS games overall.

Let me be a little more plain. - I don't want you to get the wrong impression.
It's not that I disagree with you, at least in part - I don't. - But the premise for your
query need not be punctuated with personal smears that can only generate more
personal heat. - It distracts from the subject, and allows no chance for recognition
and mutual understanding to occur. - Worse - though it's not likely to happen in this
lightly populated forum - It often generates the snowball effect. - People take sides
and join in retaliatory posts. Even a relatively peaceful group can turn into a firestorm overnight.

Believe me, I have my own frustrations and criticisms about the world to deal with
and it would be easy to blow off some steam here (pun intended) and there are plenty
of big fat targets whose characters it would be easy and pleasurable to systematically
disect into their revealing motivational components. - But this is simply not the place.
There's enough conflict and strife, and most of us come here to get relief from that.

[[EDIT]]
If you remove all the heat you asked a perfectly valid question

I'm curious to know what makes FC2 intolerable in this instance -> ? ]]

Let's just try to keep it light and a bit more friendly.

- Thanks -

[ShaDoW]

Originally posted by thirdkeeper:

Originally posted by ShaDoW:

All I'm saying is that they're up for playing a game where the enemies respawn everytime you die or load a checkpoint but can't do the same for another game. And despite being from different genres the same solution still apply to both games that all you have to do is get past those enemies avoiding confrontation where the only difference is that in FC2 you can engage in combat with these enemies without having to lose 2-3 minutes per enemy which is even more convenient than DS.

To me it's seems like they don't care enough for the game in question FC2 or just don't like FPS games overall.

Let me be a little more plain. - I don't want you to get the wrong impression.
It's not that I disagree with you, at least in part - I don't. - But the premise for your
query need not be punctuated with personal smears that can only generate more
personal heat. - It distracts from the subject, and allows no chance for recognition
and mutual understanding to occur. - Worse - though it's not likely to happen in this
lightly populated forum - It often generates the snowball effect. - People take sides
and join in retaliatory posts. Even a relatively peaceful group can turn into a firestorm overnight.

Believe me, I have my own frustrations and criticisms about the world to deal with
and it would be easy to blow off some steam here (pun intended) and there are plenty
of big fat targets whose characters it would be easy and pleasurable to systematically
disect into their revealing motivational components. - But this is simply not the place.
There's enough conflict and strife, and most of us come here to get relief from that.

[[EDIT]]
If you remove all the heat you asked a perfectly valid question

I'm curious to know what makes FC2 intolerable in this instance -> ? ]]

Let's just try to keep it light and a bit more friendly.

- Thanks -

Upon seeing many posts critizing FC2 I just couldn't find a better way to express myself and the Dark Souls analogy was the best thing I could think of.

Since that's something that actually happens a lot I just felt the need to call out those who engage in this behavior but I'm not actually critizing the game(Dark Souls) and I couldn't be silent about it either.

[thirdkeeper]

It's a legit comparison and question - but it gets completely lost and nullified by the
unnecessary jabs like "crap" and "hypocrite". - Obviously not a genuine invitation to
civil discussion, but the exact opposite.

I understand your feelings, but when someone 'attacks' FC2 I don't take it personally,
I just respond with the facts and truth as I know it, and I don't respond with personal
remarks, only with the games merits. - That's all that's ever needed to 'defend' the
game, - if you really feel a need to 'defend' it. - For the most part I don't. - Peeps
always have their own ideas and one can't expect to change what another believes,
so just let go of that notion.

It's ok if someone hates the game - I don't care. The only reason to reply is to correct misconceptions and clarify. - Not for them but for any other new players reading.

There are enough checking in here just to start trouble, we don't need to generate
any more for ourselves.

- Thanks -

[Elbmek]

Dont know Shadow Player game ref, but FC2 is how you make it. I change everytime I run it. Finished game a hundred times, but (in spite of FO4) I still come back and restart and look for something different.