reminder you play the game for lore.

[hellatze]

sure there is gameplay but lore is main selling point here.

[Mastema]

Originally posted by GIGA42:

Originally posted by Atma:

Meh, the lore is carefully crafted to be as inoffensive as possible, due to no child killing or torturing, no sex crimes etc.
I play to tenderly touch my monitor when Mommy Outis can be seen on it.

LMAO this is the third time you've brought up child violence in these forums. Bro I think you might have a big problem. Also, the sweepers use child paste as fuel, and this is regarded as acceptable by the common citizens of the city.

Doesn't matter bro, he needs to SEE it in game, otherwise it's turbo ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Pretty sure this is the type of mofo that has a gore folder and spams it wherever and to whoever he doesn't like.

[Atma]

Originally posted by Mastema:

Doesn't matter bro, he needs to SEE it in game, otherwise it's turbo ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

"Don't tell, show" is a common writer's technique, I'm sure you know it.

Originally posted by Mastema:

Pretty sure this is the type of mofo that has a gore folder and spams it wherever and to whoever he doesn't like.

Is this a psychological trick to make me send you files from my personal folder?

[hellatze]

Originally posted by GIGA42:

Originally posted by Atma:

Meh, the lore is carefully crafted to be as inoffensive as possible, due to no child killing or torturing, no sex crimes etc.
I play to tenderly touch my monitor when Mommy Outis can be seen on it.

LMAO this is the third time you've brought up child violence in these forums. Bro I think you might have a big problem. Also, the sweepers use child paste as fuel, and this is regarded as acceptable by the common citizens of the city.

when limbus steam have moderator smh

[SummonerPrime]

I have skipped 99% of the story bits, I could care less about the lore.

[hellatze]

Originally posted by SummonerPrime:

I have skipped 99% of the story bits, I could care less about the lore.

lieeeee

[SummonerPrime]

Originally posted by hellatze:

Originally posted by SummonerPrime:

I have skipped 99% of the story bits, I could care less about the lore.

lieeeee

The only part i read was the ending of sinclairs canto dungeon cause that was good, everything else made me skip cause i found it boring x.x

[hellatze]

Originally posted by SummonerPrime:

Originally posted by hellatze:

lieeeee

The only part i read was the ending of sinclairs canto dungeon cause that was good, everything else made me skip cause i found it boring x.x

do you even finish canto 4

[SummonerPrime]

Originally posted by hellatze:

Originally posted by SummonerPrime:

The only part i read was the ending of sinclairs canto dungeon cause that was good, everything else made me skip cause i found it boring x.x

do you even finish canto 4

I beat all the cantos and have all but 3 identities (Kurokumo Ryoshu, W and R corp Meur), I just skip the lore haha.

[sadakke]

i play the game jsut to click on things I watch tv showws on the side. The visuals are interesting enough, idc about the story

[Nut]

Originally posted by Atma:

Originally posted by SmallGespenst:

Don't mind Atma, they

I'm a singular person.

Probably tired of people in the internet who get pissed when one can't accurately guess if one's a man or woman

Also, have you considered that another reason they haven't explicitly shown sexual & child abuse in PM-verse lore (from what I know of it) so far is because it wouldn't add anything to the plot so far but add torture por* for the sake of it? (Which I think would just be distasteful unless it actually, meaningfully adds something to the plot.) 'Sides, I'd say it's better writing if they can make a dystopian setting you definitely wouldn't want to live in without resorting to easily evil stuff like sexual abuse, don't you think?

[Bishop]

I enjoyed a lot of dialogues in LoR not gonna lie. Roland was a cool character and with him and Angela having the majority of screen time they really managed to flesh him out. It also had that cool Korean thriller atmosphere with city gangs, corpos, fixers and stuff, reminding me a bit of Cyberpunk. And I really liked how they added the viewpoint of the people receiving the invitation, giving you more insight into fighting and consequences of killing them.

Limbus tho.. not so much. The cast is way too big and imo washed out and I don't feel like I particularity care about any of the members. The lore is also worse than LoR so far, there's barely any insight into city inner matters, its just your usual anime road movie with some secondary characters and bunch on nobodies dying here and there for no particular reason.

So no, I don't play it for lore. I play it for the sense of progression because mmorpg eat too much time these days.

[Craossa Senpai]

Gonna throw my hat in the ring here since the story is an interesting talking point when it comes to the PC-ness of the PM Universe Story, and I haven't found a good-enough thread to make a post of it yet.

This story is definitely a unique one of the bunch I've seen, where despite how there are Near-Berserk-Levels of Violence, Gore, and Overall Out-There Visuals & Ideas, it keeps it as far away from the Sensitive Aspects of what stories of this caliber would delve into, like the Death of Children & Sex. Most stories with this level of mature content often includes some semblance of the two to retain a sense of realism and immersion within the story, though admittedly some can go a little too hog-wild with it, resulting in the medium becoming Taste-Deaf.

I'm going to segregate Limbus Company's Story as it's own story out of the three current games for the sake of argument (not counting Side Stories like Wonderlabs, Leviathan, and Distortion Detective b/c they're not Games) , not just b/c there was Child Death seen in Lobotomy Corp (and was even a major plot point of the game), & was mentioned in-passing within Library of Ruina with the Sweepers, but b/c unlike the two stories, this one directly follows the narrative within the outside world, rather than the narrative of some spectators of said world.

Some might ask "Why is this important if its in the same world?" Well in Lobotomy Corp's case, it might as well have been a separate world. The entire present-time of that story was entirely separated from the outside world, with only being shown about it through memories or narrations of said pasts, making them not a First-Hand Experience of the world itself in the audience's perspective. Library of Ruina was closer, but the game followed much in the same vein: The Main Character Cast being segregated from the outside world, and people just Narrating & Discussing what it was like, how things are going, etc., only this time in a somewhat more present-day time. Again, not First-Hand Experience, only shallow glimpses into how the world worked.

However now comes Limbus Company: a Story set directly within the Outside World for the first time. Here, we can experience all the tortures and corruption that goes on within The City in about the most direct perspective you can get. And within this world, judging by all the terrors and ungodly occurrences that we have heard & have seen glimpses of, we as an audience expect all the worst in a tasteful, palatable manner. And as part of the audience in this crowd, what do I think?

Good. Not Great or Astounding, but good. B-Tier Story for sure, but nothing higher imo.

I'm not going to go into the positives in this cus we all know what they are if we're in this fandom (and this post would be way too bloated as it is), but there are quite a few criticisms I have, though I'm going to focus on one in particular for this. Mainly b/c it seems to be the one with the most controversy surrounding it within this post (& the community as a whole from what I can tell).

Originally posted by Atma:

Originally posted by Mastema:

No, that just makes you sound like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥. Game story universe le bad and ♥♥♥♥♥♥ because i don't see mutilated kids on the streets, literally your arguement.

Yes, game universe, where horrible things happen to adults on screen, but never ever happen onscreen to children because reasons is le bad. "It's okay when adults are mutilated, but not kids", - biased politically correct Mastema.
Frankly, the argument of them not going into child gore due to ratings and money, that some people mentioned, is correct. Screeching stooges shouting "But the children shouldn't be touched in the lore" aren't. Double standards are never taken as a proper argument.

Originally posted by No Time To Explain:

"How am I supposed to enjoy the story, there's no rape scene. ):"

I was implying prostitution (of adults), but sure, rape would absolutely fit the City. Project Moon doesn't have the balls to add it.
Oh, and before someone says something about steam regulations - check out the plethora of rape hentai games that are allowed on Steam.

Originally posted by hellatze:

if only moderator exist

And what would moderators do? If you want validation for your own opinion and cannot take any other person's opinion, go to reddit.

And that, funnily enough goes into what Atma has been saying for abit, but I think is too Chaotic Evil with their argument that nobody wants to take em' seriously. I don't blame people though, I wouldn't either with an attitude like that.

Before you get ready to flame me, no, I don't think this is a major strike against the game or anything like that, unlike what this individual has been saying. If anything it's somewhat minor, but it does contribute to the reason I don't find the story immersive or realistic, even though it's written pretty decently.

I want to use Berserk & Arknights as a Benchmark for this, as Berserk is the Godfather & Unrivaled King of the Dark Fantasy Genre, while Arknights is probably the closest comparison we can get to Limbus Company's Dark Fantasy Story/Setting in a Gacha Game Medium (also b/c many fans of AK & PM overlap with one another).

Starting with Berserk, it pulls absolutely no punches unlike Limbus Company, they go Hog-Wild with how dark it can get: Gore, Murder, Torture, Rape, Child Death, the whole 9 yards, and then another 6 you didn't realize was there or even possible to run. However, in all that, it still remained absolutely respectful with the subject matters and wrote a masterfully-crafted story revolving around these things.

"But not every Mature-Content Story wants to go to that extreme! Some of us can't stomach it, and they're not necessary to make a strong story!" Absolutely valid, Berserk is a story that takes people of special vitality and endurance to read & get through; it & the subject matter within is simply not for everyone, and is not needed to make a great dark fantasy story.

That's where Arknights comes into the picture. While I myself have a couple criticisms about its' story as well, one of Arknights' strongest strengths is creating a dark, depressing narrative almost like Berserk, and similarly to Limbus Company, but without the absolutely unreal visual displays of what both Berserk & Limbus Company depicts, nor any of the unreal levels of Gore, Torture, and Rape that Berserk incorporated into its story. It still holds a gripping narrative despite how there is death everywhere in said story, with even Sexual Violence & Child Death implicated within small bits of its' story here and there (T-Rated Game Vs. Limbus Company's M-Rating btw.). Combined with the great and meticulous detail that goes in describing its lore, current events, setting, and world as a whole, it makes Arknights story significantly more immersive to me as a reader, than Limbus Company does to me as an audience member.

One of my criticisms with Limbus Company in not being Immersive and only being a B-Tier Story so far is the lack of Realism as a whole. Unlike Berserk & Arknights, there has not been many examples or implication of subject matters that would otherwise 110% be part of a world as screwed up as what they claim or show, not even counting the Sexual Violence & Child Death that Atma insanely argues about, or I critiqued. The only one that gets close would be Canto 3 with the whole Racial Crusade Vs. Prosthetic People, and even then I think they skitted around some ideas here & there with the subject matter of Racism that they very easily could have went into and make a great story out of; Arknights' whole main story is about an extremely similar subject matter and is an amazing example.

Do I think it's a bad thing though? Not necessarily no, at least not as bad as some people claim it to be. To me, I think of each series' strong points as what I feel best describes them: Limbus Company as a Picture Book, Arknights as a Light Novel (or dictionary book depending on who you ask), and the gigachad Berserk as the Manga it is. Limbus Company's biggest strength, as a Picture Book, is in the visuals & presentation of the story it is trying to depict, and in that strength I don't feel it necessary to add to what is already a good story. I am much more enraptured with the graphics, visual details, & musical notes of Limbus Company over anything else it's offering, and in that critical perspective, it does an astounding, S-Tier job.

Edit: also if there are slepping/grammer errors, I apologize. working a 10-hour shift after being sleep-depraved for 2 days would do that. Also I'm too lazy to go through my post to fix errors with something this massive. gonna goto sleep and continue on my Mirror DDungeon 2 Hard Steam Guide now bye.

[A Wispy Willy]

I'd like to point out that the City does have laws, including against murder as shocking as that might be. Even in the Backstreets there are laws that are only dropped when nobody wants to be out and about anyway, during sweeping time.

[How To Train Your Wagon]

Originally posted by Craossa Senpai:

Gonna throw my hat in the ring here since the story is an interesting talking point when it comes to the PC-ness of the PM Universe Story, and I haven't found a good-enough thread to make a post of it yet.

This story is definitely a unique one of the bunch I've seen, where despite how there are Near-Berserk-Levels of Violence, Gore, and Overall Out-There Visuals & Ideas, it keeps it as far away from the Sensitive Aspects of what stories of this caliber would delve into, like the Death of Children & Sex. Most stories with this level of mature content often includes some semblance of the two to retain a sense of realism and immersion within the story, though admittedly some can go a little too hog-wild with it, resulting in the medium becoming Taste-Deaf.

I'm going to segregate Limbus Company's Story as it's own story out of the three current games for the sake of argument (not counting Side Stories like Wonderlabs, Leviathan, and Distortion Detective b/c they're not Games) , not just b/c there was Child Death seen in Lobotomy Corp (and was even a major plot point of the game), & was mentioned in-passing within Library of Ruina with the Sweepers, but b/c unlike the two stories, this one directly follows the narrative within the outside world, rather than the narrative of some spectators of said world.

Some might ask "Why is this important if its in the same world?" Well in Lobotomy Corp's case, it might as well have been a separate world. The entire present-time of that story was entirely separated from the outside world, with only being shown about it through memories or narrations of said pasts, making them not a First-Hand Experience of the world itself in the audience's perspective. Library of Ruina was closer, but the game followed much in the same vein: The Main Character Cast being segregated from the outside world, and people just Narrating & Discussing what it was like, how things are going, etc., only this time in a somewhat more present-day time. Again, not First-Hand Experience, only shallow glimpses into how the world worked.

However now comes Limbus Company: a Story set directly within the Outside World for the first time. Here, we can experience all the tortures and corruption that goes on within The City in about the most direct perspective you can get. And within this world, judging by all the terrors and ungodly occurrences that we have heard & have seen glimpses of, we as an audience expect all the worst in a tasteful, palatable manner. And as part of the audience in this crowd, what do I think?

Good. Not Great or Astounding, but good. B-Tier Story for sure, but nothing higher imo.

I'm not going to go into the positives in this cus we all know what they are if we're in this fandom (and this post would be way too bloated as it is), but there are quite a few criticisms I have, though I'm going to focus on one in particular for this. Mainly b/c it seems to be the one with the most controversy surrounding it within this post (& the community as a whole from what I can tell).

Originally posted by Atma:

Yes, game universe, where horrible things happen to adults on screen, but never ever happen onscreen to children because reasons is le bad. "It's okay when adults are mutilated, but not kids", - biased politically correct Mastema.
Frankly, the argument of them not going into child gore due to ratings and money, that some people mentioned, is correct. Screeching stooges shouting "But the children shouldn't be touched in the lore" aren't. Double standards are never taken as a proper argument.


I was implying prostitution (of adults), but sure, rape would absolutely fit the City. Project Moon doesn't have the balls to add it.
Oh, and before someone says something about steam regulations - check out the plethora of rape hentai games that are allowed on Steam.


And what would moderators do? If you want validation for your own opinion and cannot take any other person's opinion, go to reddit.

And that, funnily enough goes into what Atma has been saying for abit, but I think is too Chaotic Evil with their argument that nobody wants to take em' seriously. I don't blame people though, I wouldn't either with an attitude like that.

Before you get ready to flame me, no, I don't think this is a major strike against the game or anything like that, unlike what this individual has been saying. If anything it's somewhat minor, but it does contribute to the reason I don't find the story immersive or realistic, even though it's written pretty decently.

I want to use Berserk & Arknights as a Benchmark for this, as Berserk is the Godfather & Unrivaled King of the Dark Fantasy Genre, while Arknights is probably the closest comparison we can get to Limbus Company's Dark Fantasy Story/Setting in a Gacha Game Medium (also b/c many fans of AK & PM overlap with one another).

Starting with Berserk, it pulls absolutely no punches unlike Limbus Company, they go Hog-Wild with how dark it can get: Gore, Murder, Torture, Rape, Child Death, the whole 9 yards, and then another 6 you didn't realize was there or even possible to run. However, in all that, it still remained absolutely respectful with the subject matters and wrote a masterfully-crafted story revolving around these things.

"But not every Mature-Content Story wants to go to that extreme! Some of us can't stomach it, and they're not necessary to make a strong story!" Absolutely valid, Berserk is a story that takes people of special vitality and endurance to read & get through; it & the subject matter within is simply not for everyone, and is not needed to make a great dark fantasy story.

That's where Arknights comes into the picture. While I myself have a couple criticisms about its' story as well, one of Arknights' strongest strengths is creating a dark, depressing narrative almost like Berserk, and similarly to Limbus Company, but without the absolutely unreal visual displays of what both Berserk & Limbus Company depicts, nor any of the unreal levels of Gore, Torture, and Rape that Berserk incorporated into its story. It still holds a gripping narrative despite how there is death everywhere in said story, with even Sexual Violence & Child Death implicated within small bits of its' story here and there (T-Rated Game Vs. Limbus Company's M-Rating btw.). Combined with the great and meticulous detail that goes in describing its lore, current events, setting, and world as a whole, it makes Arknights story significantly more immersive to me as a reader, than Limbus Company does to me as an audience member.

One of my criticisms with Limbus Company in not being Immersive and only being a B-Tier Story so far is the lack of Realism as a whole. Unlike Berserk & Arknights, there has not been many examples or implication of subject matters that would otherwise 110% be part of a world as screwed up as what they claim or show, not even counting the Sexual Violence & Child Death that Atma insanely argues about, or I critiqued. The only one that gets close would be Canto 3 with the whole Racial Crusade Vs. Prosthetic People, and even then I think they skitted around some ideas here & there with the subject matter of Racism that they very easily could have went into and make a great story out of; Arknights' whole main story is about an extremely similar subject matter and is an amazing example.

Do I think it's a bad thing though? Not necessarily no, at least not as bad as some people claim it to be. To me, I think of each series' strong points as what I feel best describes them: Limbus Company as a Picture Book, Arknights as a Light Novel (or dictionary book depending on who you ask), and the gigachad Berserk as the Manga it is. Limbus Company's biggest strength, as a Picture Book, is in the visuals & presentation of the story it is trying to depict, and in that strength I don't feel it necessary to add to what is already a good story. I am much more enraptured with the graphics, visual details, & musical notes of Limbus Company over anything else it's offering, and in that critical perspective, it does an astounding, S-Tier job.

Edit: also if there are slepping/grammer errors, I apologize. working a 10-hour shift after being sleep-depraved for 2 days would do that. Also I'm too lazy to go through my post to fix errors with something this massive. gonna goto sleep and continue on my Mirror DDungeon 2 Hard Steam Guide now bye.

That was a good write up, so I am curious on how you feel about Canto one confirming that children are recruited as child soldiers to fight in wing wars. Is it because that wasn't a focus or that Gregor didn't go in depth with that subject that you didn't include it in your write up? or that Gregor himself was experimented on and forced into being a soldier while still being a child. Canto 4 also showed that T corp would throw children into factories as soon as they were old enough to read/write. Also I never took Canto 3 as an allegory to racism. I always viewed Canto 3 in a more broad sense of being afraid of something or someone that has different values/culture.

[Atma]

Originally posted by Craossa Senpai:

*snip*

Craossa-senpai is the only one who understands me

Originally posted by How To Train Your Wagon:

Also I never took Canto 3 as an allegory to racism. I always viewed Canto 3 in a more broad sense of being afraid of something or someone that has different values/culture.

Actually, body purists vs augmentation lovers is a rather popular topic is cyberpunk universes, so it's not really an allegory.
I do think that people who start to modify their body lose a part of their humanity, so Kromer did nothing wrong.