Suggestion: Singleplayer Mode

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This is a Suggestion to the Devs of Lethal Company for a potential Lethal Company Update.

Players have been playing Lethal Company alone, for the challenge, and in doing so, it's actually quite fun, challenging, but still fun. This could have potential to be it's own gamemode, allowing for Singleplayer-only upgrades and features, such as flashlights and other items lasting longer than usual, the pause button actually pausing the game, difficulty tweaks and more.

One cool idea would be Singleplayer Specific Ship upgrades, removing things like Walkie-Talkies, Signal Boosters, Teleporters, Translators and other upgrades that would only be beneficial in Multiplayer, and replacing them with worthwhile Singleplayer-only upgrades, like a Portable Radar that lets you see a map that you have to uncover, so that you don't get lost, or maybe a Loot Teleporter that you can carry to the front of the facility or carry inside the facility to place down and instantly teleport loot, as a reward for getting enough credits (and for making it to Titan on Singleplayer, also somehow surviving on Titan on Singleplayer.) and also to reduce the inconvenience of having to carry large objects to and from the ship, which takes a lot of time.

Maybe the player could also have a Body Armour upgrade, like a Stronger Helmet, which would allow you to not get hit by snarefleas, or body armour that allows you to outlive certain enemies like Thumpers. Albeit, getting a shotgun would also work.

Overall, a lot of these things can already be achieved via the use of mods, however, I feel like this would make for a fun. interesting and unique gamemode, that could enhance the horror and overall Lethal Company experience. However, on the other hand, Lethal Company is primarily a Multiplayer Co-op experience, and the devs might not be interested in encouraging Singleplayer behaviour, even though some of the randoms you meet in this game are so toxic that you'd just want to play alone.

Regardless, I think that playing Lethal Company by yourself right now is still a fun enough challenge that a Singleplayer mode definitely doesn't need to exist, but it probably could.

[uncleflagzz]

You have to take into account that there is literally one single person working on this game, and by logic the multiplayer will have more priority. Altho I understand from your point of view, a Singleplayer Mode is highly improbable, if not impossible, within the next 2 years, assuming the game will not be dead by then. And everyone, Dev included, knows that the game will sadly die worst case scenario at one point.

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Originally posted by uncleflagzz:

You have to take into account that there is literally one single person working on this game, and by logic the multiplayer will have more priority. Altho I understand from your point of view, a Singleplayer Mode is highly improbable, if not impossible, within the next 2 years, assuming the game will not be dead by then. And everyone, Dev included, knows that the game will sadly die worst case scenario at one point.

Impossible? I doubt it! Like I said, you don't have to do much, just have singleplayer only upgrades, pause the server when you hit pause and keep the game running as a server instead of changing a lot of internal logic.

I could make it into a proof of concept mod if I knew how to mod Unity games, which I don't.

Don't be such a downer! This was only a suggestion! The devs don't HAVE to add it, it was just a fun update idea

[Shae]

Originally posted by uncleflagzz:

You have to take into account that there is literally one single person working on this game, and by logic the multiplayer will have more priority. Altho I understand from your point of view, a Singleplayer Mode is highly improbable, if not impossible, within the next 2 years, assuming the game will not be dead by then. And everyone, Dev included, knows that the game will sadly die worst case scenario at one point.

Also I am pretty sure the developer intends for this game to be a horror co-op so that's why it has no support for singleplayer games hence why there are mods for those who want to play solo. Other than that, if Zeeks ever plans on adding singleplayer support it will probably be the last thing he adds as multiplayer is of utmost priority.

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Originally posted by Shaelent:

hence why there are mods for those who want to play solo.

I swear to god literally all I am suggesting here is alternative upgrades, not an entire server rewrite or anything. I play this game solo with Two Handed Mod already and it works out pretty fine for me, I'm not asking for anything, I do not require anything, I just thought it would be a funny idea and you guys are treating it as if I am demanding that it be added and like redditors you're coming up with all these stupid counter arguments to stuff that was never supposed to be a debate.

it's not impossible to play this game solo, doing so is considered a challenge and it's a fun and rewarding challenge of seeing if you can get to Titan all by yourself and thrive on there too, which ofcourse you can. There are already mods out there which tweak the difficulty of the game and much more so the idea that there are no mods for "solo lethal company" is stupid.

Even if this game is a co-op, there's nothing in this game that requires more than 1 player, which other co-ops do have, so if that's the way we're going with this, then I suggest the developer add checks to the game that require 2 players or more or just flat out make it impossible to play solo, because why would you want to play solo it's a co-op game?

[John gaming]

Suggestion: Get some friends to play

[Kyle]

All I want is the game to pause if you're solo. DRG allows me to play solo games and still pause, amazing for when I want to play but might have to take care of stuff.

Anything beyond that is kind of a waste of developer time, and is better spent by modders looking to add those features in, as you already mentioned. For all I know, even that is something modders can already fix.

If it's something modders can do, there is nothing wrong with asking them to do it. What they can't do is add features to the base game that benefit the entire playerbase and extend the game's lifespan, which draws in MORE players and modders to continue the cycle. I am a person who doesn't generally like mods and avoid using them in most games. They have uses in situations like this.

The game needs some solo mods but it's main selling point is a co-op horror game, which is where most of the developer effort needs to go. Labor and time are finite resources to an individual. Solo only items in the base game is probably a non-starter, which is probably for the best in the long run. I don't think he wants to super expand the team size and scope of the game, so it will stay small scale.

[iter mortuus]

All I want is the game to pause if you're solo. DRG allows me to play solo games and still pause, amazing for when I want to play but might have to take care of stuff.
this is the reason i can't play this becuase i can't be left alone long enough to do so i wish i could just pause the game and have it freeze time in the pause menu if i'm on a solo privet server

[Licherous]

'a lot of these can be achieved with mods'
you answered your own request

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man why is everyone such an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
this is steam community not reddit, or are they the same thing?
actually to be honest since the dawn of time steam community posts have always been toxic

Originally posted by Licherous:

'a lot of these can be achieved with mods'
you answered your own request

This is a suggestion not a request. It doesn't need to be added to the game, but the increase the lifespan of the game it could help, as even after it inevitably becomes not played as much, people will still be able to play solo.

Again though, this is not a request or demand it is a suggestion

Originally posted by MrDudeGuy:

Suggestion: Get some friends to play

You completely misunderstand the point of playing Solo.
The point of doing so is for the challenge, and honestly doing so helps to emphasize the horror elements of the game as there is much more on stake. Having "friends" there just ruins that.

Again I really have to just spam this, this is not a request or demand it is a suggestion it doesn't have to be added to the game, I just thought it would be fun to think about and I thought others would post about their ideas for what a Singleplayer mode of the game could look like for example, maybe people would suggest or envision like new monsters or something or new planets, or just have a friendly discussion but instead all I get is these incredibly negative people who come out of the Reddit woodworks to say "NO! NUH UH, NO! IMPOSSIBLE, NOT HAPPENING!" like come on stop being so pessimistic for once?

[Kyle]

I'm not sure what response you expected, but I'm pretty sure most of the people here aren't trying to be rude, but realistic. The game can already be played solo, and it is already a challenge. Wouldn't adding more items only lessen that challenge?

I hate to burst your bubble, but there isn't a lot of risk right now as it is. The game only saves in orbit. You can just quit the lobby as the ship is flying away and lose nothing. I've seen someone claim to make it to a quota of around 1400 solo using that.

The game has one official person working on it, and TONS of independent modders who have already added items of their own to the store with mods. We need some that cater to solo play.

No one is saying the game shouldn't have solo only stuff, just who needs to spend the time to make it. That's all. Even with DRG's larger team, they really only have one single thing (other than mob/hp scaling) that was made for solo, and it hasn't been changed in a LONG time. The dev focus is on multiplayer itself, which is why it has only grown in popularity over it's lifespan.

A true solo mode would be hard to implement and balance. How do we handle losing scrap at the end of a single player's death? The game isn't balanced around that and would take big changes. My very first time playing? I just went in solo for 3 days and died on the last day. Immediate run wipe. The only way around that would be to keep the scrap for solo players or just reset the day time travel style. No matter what, the risk feels lessened.

[Shae]

Originally posted by Σ♂:

Originally posted by Shaelent:

hence why there are mods for those who want to play solo.

I swear to god literally all I am suggesting here is alternative upgrades, not an entire server rewrite or anything. I play this game solo with Two Handed Mod already and it works out pretty fine for me, I'm not asking for anything, I do not require anything, I just thought it would be a funny idea and you guys are treating it as if I am demanding that it be added and like redditors you're coming up with all these stupid counter arguments to stuff that was never supposed to be a debate.

it's not impossible to play this game solo, doing so is considered a challenge and it's a fun and rewarding challenge of seeing if you can get to Titan all by yourself and thrive on there too, which ofcourse you can. There are already mods out there which tweak the difficulty of the game and much more so the idea that there are no mods for "solo lethal company" is stupid.

Even if this game is a co-op, there's nothing in this game that requires more than 1 player, which other co-ops do have, so if that's the way we're going with this, then I suggest the developer add checks to the game that require 2 players or more or just flat out make it impossible to play solo, because why would you want to play solo it's a co-op game?

My guy, you need to take a deep breath and chill out with the hostility. No one in this thread was attacking you, just because people aren't agreeing or have said differing things from what you expect doesn't mean you can insult. You also quoted the only thing about me saying factual information in regards to mods existing because of no proper singleplayer support and ignored everything else so you could find some reason to feel offended. Do yourself a favour and don't make suggestions if you're expecting people to echo chamber and not have their own opinions.

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Originally posted by Shaelent:

Originally posted by Σ♂:

I swear to god literally all I am suggesting here is alternative upgrades, not an entire server rewrite or anything. I play this game solo with Two Handed Mod already and it works out pretty fine for me, I'm not asking for anything, I do not require anything, I just thought it would be a funny idea and you guys are treating it as if I am demanding that it be added and like redditors you're coming up with all these stupid counter arguments to stuff that was never supposed to be a debate.

it's not impossible to play this game solo, doing so is considered a challenge and it's a fun and rewarding challenge of seeing if you can get to Titan all by yourself and thrive on there too, which ofcourse you can. There are already mods out there which tweak the difficulty of the game and much more so the idea that there are no mods for "solo lethal company" is stupid.

Even if this game is a co-op, there's nothing in this game that requires more than 1 player, which other co-ops do have, so if that's the way we're going with this, then I suggest the developer add checks to the game that require 2 players or more or just flat out make it impossible to play solo, because why would you want to play solo it's a co-op game?

My guy, you need to take a deep breath and chill out with the hostility. No one in this thread was attacking you, just because people aren't agreeing or have said differing things from what you expect doesn't mean you can insult. You also quoted the only thing about me saying factual information in regards to mods existing because of no proper singleplayer support and ignored everything else so you could find some reason to feel offended. Do yourself a favour and don't make suggestions if you're expecting people to echo chamber and not have their own opinions.

Woah, slow down there big guy. Who exactly do you think you are? Coming in here with that kind of narcissism and negativity? And to claim that I am being hostile here? I have been nothing but positive and simply wanted to express opinions of my own, only for Steam Community once again to just shut me down on literally anything I say and hail me down with "No, go away, shut up shut up"

If anyone needs a breather, its you, my boy. Because my brother in christ you are all toxic. And whats even worse is that all of you complete nobodies think you can speak for the developer of this game? Yeah, right. As if any of you actually know ANYTHING about the developer of this game or the process of developing it.

And to hear all of you losers come into my suggestion, just to bring down your own unhappiness in life and bring it all onto me for making a silly suggestion? Uhh, yeah, okay, settle down there guys. I think you need to all go outside and touch some grass. It's just a videogame, and yet, you're trying to be "realistic". Uh huh, "realistic" with an unrealistic videogame, but to be honest? You being "realistic" is just another way for you to be pessimistic toxic negative idiots and say "Well, no, I was just being honest!"

You can be honest and be nice, buddy. Don't bother responding if you're not going to treat me with the proper respect that I and many others deserve.

[ShatteredPumpkin]

Originally posted by Σ♂:

Originally posted by uncleflagzz:

You have to take into account that there is literally one single person working on this game, and by logic the multiplayer will have more priority. Altho I understand from your point of view, a Singleplayer Mode is highly improbable, if not impossible, within the next 2 years, assuming the game will not be dead by then. And everyone, Dev included, knows that the game will sadly die worst case scenario at one point.

Impossible? I doubt it! Like I said, you don't have to do much, just have singleplayer only upgrades, pause the server when you hit pause and keep the game running as a server instead of changing a lot of internal logic.

I could make it into a proof of concept mod if I knew how to mod Unity games, which I don't.

Don't be such a downer! This was only a suggestion! The devs don't HAVE to add it, it was just a fun update idea :winter2019joyfultearsdog:

you doubt it? well then offer to help the single dev if its that easy XD

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Originally posted by ShatteredPumpkin:

Originally posted by Σ♂:

Impossible? I doubt it! Like I said, you don't have to do much, just have singleplayer only upgrades, pause the server when you hit pause and keep the game running as a server instead of changing a lot of internal logic.

I could make it into a proof of concept mod if I knew how to mod Unity games, which I don't.

Don't be such a downer! This was only a suggestion! The devs don't HAVE to add it, it was just a fun update idea

you doubt it? well then offer to help the single dev if its that easy XD

I do not know the dev personally, and despite "popular" belief, many other devs have helped out the "single dev" because the models were not made by him, in the games credits you can see that more than one person is attributed.

Aswell as that, what makes you think that Singleplayer will be so hard to develop? You do know that for years, games have mostly been Singleplayer, right? As a game developer, myself, Multiplayer is harder to develop than Singleplayer due to networking and communicating with clients, peer to peer, etc.

I'll probably get told "blah blah blah why dont you do it" because people are stupid, but the truth is that this thread is just meant to be a suggestion, it doesn't have to be added to the game, people are misunderstanding me here, I am not complaining, I am not demanding that this be added to the game, I just believe that it would be cool to see it in the game.

It's very upsetting to see a very negative viewpoint on the idea of suggesting things for videogames, especially for the single indie developer, who now has complete randos talking for them, as if they know them. A culture of suggestions is what gives you great games, it's what helps developers create their games and make them better over time, and I do understand that this idea is probably not what a lot of players want, so they're taking it all out on me instead of the idea that I presented.

Imagine if I made a suggestion like "Cool monster designs" and then everyone just told me that I suck, or I should go work for the single dev if I think I'm so good, or I should just go make my own game if I liked the designs so much.

You guys need to chill.

[ShatteredPumpkin]

Originally posted by Σ♂:

Originally posted by ShatteredPumpkin:

you doubt it? well then offer to help the single dev if its that easy XD

I do not know the dev personally, and despite "popular" belief, many other devs have helped out the "single dev" because the models were not made by him, in the games credits you can see that more than one person is attributed.

Aswell as that, what makes you think that Singleplayer will be so hard to develop? You do know that for years, games have mostly been Singleplayer, right? As a game developer, myself, Multiplayer is harder to develop than Singleplayer due to networking and communicating with clients, peer to peer, etc.

I'll probably get told "blah blah blah why dont you do it" because people are stupid, but the truth is that this thread is just meant to be a suggestion, it doesn't have to be added to the game, people are misunderstanding me here, I am not complaining, I am not demanding that this be added to the game, I just believe that it would be cool to see it in the game.

It's very upsetting to see a very negative viewpoint on the idea of suggesting things for videogames, especially for the single indie developer, who now has complete randos talking for them, as if they know them. A culture of suggestions is what gives you great games, it's what helps developers create their games and make them better over time, and I do understand that this idea is probably not what a lot of players want, so they're taking it all out on me instead of the idea that I presented.

Imagine if I made a suggestion like "Cool monster designs" and then everyone just told me that I suck, or I should go work for the single dev if I think I'm so good, or I should just go make my own game if I liked the designs so much.

You guys need to chill.

then dont say uh its easy if you cant even do it yourself stop expecting only cause you think its easy or something is easy that other people will have an easy time to do or make exactly that especially saying i could easily do this if i could blah blah dude get real either learn and do it and then say its easy or just dont say it at all srsly... stop blaming others for telling you the truth XD