Arachnophobia & Trypophobia MOD

[AtticFox_VT]

Sooo I have VTuber friends that has Arachnophobia & Trypophobia but I want them to enjoy their time playing this game without worrying about their phobias. I don't know how to mod so I just want to post this here as a suggestion/mod request.
it would be really great if someone were to make a mod that reskins the Circuit Bug Hive into a ball and the Spider into a balloon animal or something.
Please and thank you!

[Lupa]

Sorry people are being really weirdly negative on your post. Hope they add something for accessibility. I know that Grounded lets you just make the spiders into spheres so I hope they will add something like that in the future.

[Bladerunner_]

Skill issue

[Hazode]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Qua2ar:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Hazode:

T H I S

My friend has a crippling phobia of spiders, to the point where they will literally have a meltdown if confronted by one. They can't even look at a picture of a spider without being triggered. When we play LC, they have to be the monitor guy if a spider appears.

Horror is one thing, but phobias are a different beast. It's why people get paid to become therapists to treat phobias.

With all that said, "ITT: Elitists who don't understand how bad phobias can be."

Horror games want to maximize fear responses. There is no limit. The only restriction is age rating, that's it.

I am aware of what horror is, I'm directing the comment at the people who are being ♥♥♥♥♥ to people who have phobias.

Bear in mind, most people play this game for the goofing with friends. Most people leave the moment horror truly begins in this game.

[Sabatoc]

Ursprungligen skrivet av A Real Hero:

People with the alleged phobias should stop being lazy and develop their own mods. I can understand them wanting to modify an aspect of the game that they find unsettling, and as far as mods or in-game tools allow for this they are free to go ahead and use them. But stop bothering other people with this bs. You want to enjoy a special feature? Then DO YOU OWN ♥♥♥♥.

I can pull that coping argument too.

Want to enjoy a game to stop being bored? Go outside and play, make your own fun out of sticks because only lazy people buy games.

Tired of walking everywhere? Build your own car from scratch because car-parts and bus-services only exist for lazy bums.

Feel sick? Make your own medicine. Only lazy people ask doctors for treatment. (Please don't do this.)

Anyway, as you just said, you claim to understand that people wants to modify games to get rid of unsettling content. That is exactly what this topic and discussion is about. I don't see how any of this "bs" is directed at you specifically, so taking a victim-stance and speaking for "other people" doesn't make any sense beyond spewing an aimless and contradicting statement over a subject that doesn't even affect you.

[Zero(the number)]

Ursprungligen skrivet av mobi:

I swear nobody here who goes "it's a horror game dude" understands phobias

I have isolophobia [fear of isolation / being alone] and im alone most of the time i play this game and that actually improves my experience since im terrified throughout most of it which is the goal and it also makes me more scary when you see your friend just get eaten.

[[OTS]EchoZenLogos]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Sabatoc:

In all honesty, jumping on the bully-bandwagon to bash people with genuine phobias is spineless and unclassy as ♥♥♥♥.

I can see the perspective on both sides on this, I do have arachnophobia but a great majority of games with spiders in them don't seem to affect me in any way.

But phobias, much like people, are unique to each person.

You can throw some of the most detailed spider models my way and I still game on without problems. But show me a literal pixel-spider from an old DOSBOX game, like Daggerfall or the FPS-game Blood that moves erratically and aggressively on-screen, it results in intense stress and anxiety that lingers. If I keep pushing on along with continued exposure, it can result in nausea that forces me to walk away from the PC to let the stress settle.

This ain't something within my control. I can push on, yes, but I cannot control the effects it has on me. I've grown resilient and wiser over the years, but the effects are still there when something perfectly matches the phobia.

Understand me right, I'm not building up expectations that games are supposed to be forced to cater to people with phobias. But cut down on the bashing on people who's asking for solutions or alternatives to enjoy the same experience you are.

Those people don't want to take away content from you or change the entire game to an unrecognizable state you're not familiar with. They just want to find other ways to enjoy the same stuff you do.

This game doesn't need to change for me to enjoy it. But other people aren't like me, is it really that wrong to spare them some thought too?

That's all fair, and I do think disparaging people for their phobias is definitely not cool.

With that said, I don't think making a horror game less scary though to appeal to everyone who doesn't play a game due to terror, regardless of whether that is from a phobia or not, is a good idea in general. It's fine for mods or if you want to do it for yourself of course, but the other 90%+ of us don't want to risk the game being made worse and less exciting for us simply due to a minority that cannot play the game without these kinds of changes.

You could say it's just an "option" of course, but that's not quite true. If the developers had an option to replace spiders with some other monsters for example, but did so for other players in online games, those who want to see and be scared by spiders would randomly have their experience ruined by being in lobbies with that option turned off. If it was client-side on the other hand, people would be seeing different things in multiplayer and that would lead to inconsistencies in communication and the like (which diminishes the quality of game-play).

If it only worked in single-player then it wouldn't be an issue at all of course, but this game is specifically designed to be a multiplayer experience. I'm a strict believer as well in the idea that not every game has to appeal to every player or be designed to cater to the widest possible audience. Sometimes, game design should risk alienating certain players, and if the game isn't for you for whatever reason I think it shouldn't be the end of the world.

Tons of games are not for me either, and I play any of the thousands of other games I can potentially play when I find one I can't handle playing for whatever reason. I never would insist on things being changed if it might negatively affect others, and while accessibility options (like color-blind options) are universally good, changing the models or effects or such in a game where visual distinction is very important could diminish gameplay for many.

Edit: The original post was just asking for a mod anyway, and so that's fine.

[vanbushi]

Nobody gives a ♥♥♥♥ about people's "phobias". Go play different game with your friend and stop trying to constantly change a horror game for all the normal people. You guys don't need to be included in every game.

[Donkle]

I feel like the real "virtue signalers" in this comment section are the people getting legitimately upset that people would be interested in an arachnophobia mod. If someone wants to use them then that's fine, get off your high horse about it being a horror game. If people want to mod their experience to handle their specific phobias in order to still enjoy the game, then get over it.
Das freedom

[Velerium]

You call it freedom, I call it not being able to understand an eight-legged pixel ain't gonna crawl out of the screen to eat your face.
Draw the line, guys.

[Shaelent]

Ursprungligen skrivet av vanbushi:

Nobody gives a ♥♥♥♥ about people's "phobias". Go play different game with your friend and stop trying to constantly change a horror game for all the normal people. You guys don't need to be included in every game.

Where has OP tried to change the game for "normal" people? They requested for a mod that will have no impact on the base game because they care about their friends experiences. You're just complaining about other people for the sake of complaining.

[Blorem]

damn you guys are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ if you think a HORROR GAME needs a mod to be LESS HORRIFIC

oh wait this thread was made by a vtuber, no wonder it's stupid

[404]

I have Arachnophobia, please, get over it/deal with it instead of looking for ways to avoid it.
Simulated experiences have pretty good evidence of helping folk deal with phobias, stop avoiding it and stop expecting people to help you avoid it.
Only you can help you.

You are perpetuating a problem that has been PROVEN to be curtailed by exposure.
Educate yourself instead of complain. OR avoid the title.
Not everything is for everyone and no one person has the right to demand (not that you were) that the world be shaped around their fears.
It's not other peoples responsibility to deal with others personal problems universally, your suggestion would take away from what makes this production special.
if you don't like it nor can't handle it then don't play it.

OR

Chill.
Breathe.
Don't touch the webs.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av kalinthezola:

I feel like the real "virtue signalers" in this comment section are the people getting legitimately upset that people would be interested in an arachnophobia mod. If someone wants to use them then that's fine, get off your high horse about it being a horror game. If people want to mod their experience to handle their specific phobias in order to still enjoy the game, then get over it.
Das freedom

Nope, bad enablest take for the most part.
asking for a mod however is fine, the rest of your statement is meh.

[Nick Walker II]

Ursprungligen skrivet av 4n⦸h4:

I have Arachnophobia, please, get over it/deal with it instead of looking for ways to avoid it.
Simulated experiences have pretty good evidence of helping folk deal with phobias, stop avoiding it and stop expecting people to help you avoid it.
Only you can help you.

You are perpetuating a problem that has been PROVEN to be curtailed by exposure.
Educate yourself instead of complain. OR avoid the title.
Not everything is for everyone and no one person has the right to demand (not that you were) that the world be shaped around their fears.
It's not other peoples responsibility to deal with others personal problems universally, your suggestion would take away from what makes this production special.
if you don't like it nor can't handle it then don't play it.

OR

Chill.
Breathe.
Don't touch the webs.

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Ursprungligen skrivet av kalinthezola:

I feel like the real "virtue signalers" in this comment section are the people getting legitimately upset that people would be interested in an arachnophobia mod. If someone wants to use them then that's fine, get off your high horse about it being a horror game. If people want to mod their experience to handle their specific phobias in order to still enjoy the game, then get over it.
Das freedom

Nope, bad enablest take for the most part.
asking for a mod however is fine, the rest of your statement is meh.

It definitely is a little insulting when people try to keep themselves and others down by telling them "you can't overcome it, you are stuck with this fear forever and there's nothing you can do about it". In the long run it's harmful to people like us because it prevents us from actually improving our condition.

[404]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Nick Walker II:

Ursprungligen skrivet av 4n⦸h4:

I have Arachnophobia, please, get over it/deal with it instead of looking for ways to avoid it.
Simulated experiences have pretty good evidence of helping folk deal with phobias, stop avoiding it and stop expecting people to help you avoid it.
Only you can help you.

You are perpetuating a problem that has been PROVEN to be curtailed by exposure.
Educate yourself instead of complain. OR avoid the title.
Not everything is for everyone and no one person has the right to demand (not that you were) that the world be shaped around their fears.
It's not other peoples responsibility to deal with others personal problems universally, your suggestion would take away from what makes this production special.
if you don't like it nor can't handle it then don't play it.

OR

Chill.
Breathe.
Don't touch the webs.

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Nope, bad enablest take for the most part.
asking for a mod however is fine, the rest of your statement is meh.

It definitely is a little insulting when people try to keep themselves and others down by telling them "you can't overcome it, you are stuck with this fear forever and there's nothing you can do about it". In the long run it's harmful to people like us because it prevents us from actually improving our condition.

It's literal enablist behaviour
"don't even try to get over X, just avoid it and continue to be afraid of it"

To be fair OP is chill af, much props Woody for dipping into my thread and laying out your case mate. Appreciate yo fayce.

[AtticFox_VT]

Woah no fighting pls, I made this post to suggest something to make this game playable for other people. Some play this not just for the horror but of how goofy it is and how fun it is to play with friends. If you don't have a problem playing the game as is then good for you no one is forcing you to play with this feature even if someone were to make it that's how client side mods work. Everyone responds or react to their phobias differently hence why a made this post.