Shovel Vs Shotgun

[Cricket]

With the new update coming soon, the shovel will be improved significantly, so I'm questioning if the shotgun is worth bringing as a weapon. Below i have listed the pros and cons between the two weapons.

The shotgun has better damage, range and value, but the shovel, it has better speed, accessibility, weight(in the next update), reliability and uses.

In my personal opinion i feel like the shovel is gonna be more worth bringing due to it being more reliable and accessible than the shotgun, tho it is fun to mess around with the double barrel from time to time. i'm curious what others think tho

[Sasha Mason]

The main problem with the shotgun is that it is something you can sell, it's scrap that can help you reach your quota, and the very limited ammo makes it very fun to use for a very short time. Our group usually doesn't bring them along into the building as there is a fair chance that we just lose it (although it can murder the Bracken very quicky).

The shovel you can always use and it deals with almost everything that can actually be killed with the exception of the Bracken. The Shotgun is mostly something we end up using if we so happen to run into a Nutcracker and kill it, then the shotgun becomes our main weapon of choice until we make it out.

[Cricket]

it might be a smart idea to have someone keep the shotgun if your going to titan since the interior is usually the facility layout. from my experience the nutcrackers are alot harder to kill in the facility layout if you dont already have atleast 2 flashbangs to stun them with, so bringing a shotgun will make it alot easier to deal with them. it would also help if the shotgun didnt glitch out from time to time and completely miss it's target at pointblank range from time to time.

[Escorian]

Shotgun can kill Coilheads

[Cricket]

Originally posted by Escorian:

Shotgun can kill Coilheads

do you have anything to prove this, if so then im gonna start using the shotgun alot more often

[Matt]

Originally posted by Escorian:

Shotgun can kill Coilheads

me when I purposefully spread misinformation over the internet

[HoloLiveSonic™]

Originally posted by Escorian:

Shotgun can kill Coilheads

thats cap

[RattyRattington]

Originally posted by Sasha Mason🎄:

The shovel you can always use and it deals with almost everything that can actually be killed with the exception of the Bracken.

I'm assuming you're aware, but just for future reference and anyone reading; a zap gun lets you kill Bracken with the shovel if you got a teammate with you. Stun grenades should be possible as well and would eliminate the need of a partner. 3 shovel whacks ends the Bracken.

[POWER WITHIN USER]

You can also hit a turret with a shovel or throw a grenade casing on a landmine. I think landmines activate instantly so you can't 'ready' them using a player.

The main problem with the shotgun is that it is something you can sell, it's scrap that can help you reach your quota

If you need to sell the ability to delete nearly everything with a single click (this includes more sources of shotguns that will often camp the entrance) I'm sorry but you're ngmi and should instead accept the early vacation.

[Cricket]

Im pretty sure that turrets cant be destroyed with a shovel, if they could that would solve one of my biggest issues with the game right now.

[POWER WITHIN USER]

Originally posted by Cricket:

Im pretty sure that turrets cant be destroyed with a shovel

It's to force them to sweep the area.

[Sasha Mason]

Originally posted by RattyRattington:

Originally posted by Sasha Mason🎄:

The shovel you can always use and it deals with almost everything that can actually be killed with the exception of the Bracken.

I'm assuming you're aware, but just for future reference and anyone reading; a zap gun lets you kill Bracken with the shovel if you got a teammate with you. Stun grenades should be possible as well and would eliminate the need of a partner. 3 shovel whacks ends the Bracken.

I know the Bracken can be killed, but with shovel only, it's practically suicide. Stun Gun our group somehow always fails to properly take advantage of so we never even get to that part, and from various guides and videos of other groups trying that, it still seems high risk to try and stun the Bracken to whack it. Similar to stun grenades or the radar boosters flash command, the Bracken does get stunned, but the stun lasts for less than a second.

I've also seen people get murdered by the Bracken mid-stun so, unless there's something I'm missing here, I'm going to consider the Bracken as a threat that you can technically kill with a Shovel, but it's never ever recommended to try, especially not because there's other ways to dealing with it.

Originally posted by POWER WITHIN USER:

The main problem with the shotgun is that it is something you can sell, it's scrap that can help you reach your quota

If you need to sell the ability to delete nearly everything with a single click (this includes more sources of shotguns that will often camp the entrance) I'm sorry but you're ngmi and should instead accept the early vacation.

Not even sure I wanted to respond to this one since you cherry picking out what I say and ignore everything else, but, I did mention that the very limited ammo and high chance of losing it are reasons too. Can't believe you're making me practically repeat everything I just said, but the shovel deals with almost everything that can be killed (Except Bracken), if you bring a Shotgun, there is a chance you'll end up losing it someway somehow to something that cant be killed or even end up wasting it on something that could've easily been dealt with using a Shovel (Eg, you end up using it on something other than the Nutcracker or Bracken), and once you're out of ammo, then what? Time to go back unless you ditched your flashlight so you can have a shovel as backup or you run with an almost completely full inventory of Flashlight, Shovel and Shotgun, or would have to rely more on other people with lights and shovels as backup.

There's a reason our group doesn't really consider bringing the Shotgun into the facility, there's very few situations where we feel like it would be worth bringing along for the very limited ammo that you get with it.

[Æɴɪsᴏ]

Originally posted by Escorian:

Shotgun can kill Coilheads

I just did it. Thank you for your this info! Two bullets to the head did the trick!

[David]

As previous poster said, you can use it to kill nutcrackers easily and acquire more shotguns and shotgun shells. Just leave it outside the facility until you need it.

[POWER WITHIN USER]

Originally posted by Sasha Mason🎄:

I did mention that the very limited ammo and high chance of losing it are reasons too.

if you bring a Shotgun, there is a chance you'll end up losing it someway somehow to something that cant be killed or even end up wasting it on something that could've easily been dealt with using a Shovel (Eg, you end up using it on something other than the Nutcracker or Bracken), and once you're out of ammo, then what?

That one is easy!
Don't use the shotgun for a snare flea or lose it because the owner died and the rest just forgot about it which is worse if you're part of a premade group.
Treat it as something as valuable as a $700 jetpack instead of "an item worth 40 scrap".

While you're typing lengthy paragraphs about how the shovel is just better or you're trying to kill a nutcracker by meleeing it, someone better at the game will use a shotgun to instakill it, recover ammo (and another shotgun) then continue gathering.

[Sasha Mason]

If you disagree with me, that's fine, but that's how I see it, don't try so hard to convince me otherwise~