Great news about "Peaceful Mode," however...

[nitejrny]

I actually like the beastsies attacking at night. What I don"t like is having to build a camp every fifty to one hundred yards. I'd like at least double the current time to explore for a good spot, and still have time to collect wood, rocks, and water.

Personally, I'd rather keep the beasts, and double the daylight.

[fraggyb]

If anything, the days are too long now. I would shorten them by about 2-3 minutes from the 10 they are currently.

It's incredibly easy to explore the entire map in under a weeks game time with little to no effort other than climbing the mountain and zero threats during the day.

Check the screenshot section, people are getting around just fine.

[Schrödinger]

The beasts seem like something to keep you busy during the boring nighttime. It'll be nice if they drop something I can use.
At least I didn't figure out how to use a lizard's body after fiddling it for 5 minutes with a knife. Don't spoil me though.

[Rune]

Originally posted by fraggyb:

If anything, the days are too long now. I would shorten them by about 2-3 minutes from the 10 they are currently.

It's incredibly easy to explore the entire map in under a weeks game time with little to no effort other than climbing the mountain and zero threats during the day.

Check the screenshot section, people are getting around just fine.

Yes, also the game isn't designed to the current length of day - you can travel to unfinished parts of the map (admitted, does take an effort to do so, lol).

Still, I think the majority of player would not appreciate a shorter day.

For exploration, I start at a certain location, then I go in one direction all day - not caring about making a fire. When the night comes, I quit the game and then start the game again - same day, new morning - to explore something else. This way I can explore most of the island over some days from the same starting point. And that's probably not what the devs intended me to do - but this way is more safe than risking your life every night.

[Maru VR]

Thank you for the feedback, guys! It's interesting to see how different people's expectations are for the game. We are looking into ways to cater to different playstyles.

[a_fermor]

now we're getting peaceful mode i won't ask for anything else for awhile as that would be selfish..... the length of day is good now as you can explore at a more easy pace, without having to immediately look to prepare a fire, so the length is good i think....im currently seeing if, once you get the dogs or lizzards, you can wade out to sea a bit so they can't get you... my 1st attempt (day 1) i went to sea too early and the birds came instead, i suspect you need to wait till the first dog or lizzard appears b4 wading out. Once again the Devs have shown incredible interest in the feedback, i see Maru on every thread..... i suspect they'll end up with a tiered system of difficulty as the way to allow for everyones expectations.... i of course will stick to Peaceful Mode ...

[a_fermor]

the difficulty settings could actually be tied to length of day as well as monster quantity/aggression... peaceful mode being as is but no monsters at all, and nightmare mode being equal length day/nite 3-5 mins long

[Baggy MacDouche]

My take and personal preference when it comes to games like this, is just give people options to customize difficulty. It's going to be hard to please everybody and everyone is at a different level of skill at playing these types of games. Some like a huge challenge and some like to experience the game more at a leisurely pace.

If you were able to adjust sliders for day/night length, for example, you could then find an appropriate level of challenge for you, that you could scale as you become better adept at the game. Also things like, adjusting how quickly thirst/hunger drain and how much liquid/food restore. Adjust how much damage you take, etc. How densely/sparsely resources/loot are.

Just a few suggestions that would put more control in the player's hands on how they might better enjoy the game at first, if not quite up to the full-on challenge that it's capable of.

[Rune]

I died today a long way from the beach, I'm no longer in the mood to start all the way back. Might be a good idea with a break until the peaceful mode is ready. To me, risking death by fighting beasts every night is not very fun in the long run... Might be ok, if there was some cabin to find where you could get safe shelter.

[Maru VR]

A patch went live on Friday which changed the night structure so you don't get attacked every night. Also killing animals now has an effect on the following nights.
We expect to add a Peaceful Mode with the next patch.

[Rune]

Originally posted by Maru VR:

A patch went live on Friday which changed the night structure so you don't get attacked every night. Also killing animals now has an effect on the following nights.
We expect to add a Peaceful Mode with the next patch.

Nice - when I died last night, I did have the new patch installed, maybe just bad luck, but it did not help me - I was on night 5, there were quite a lot of bats.

Also exploring the island and moving many nights away from the beach where you start, the annoyment of dying becomes much greater. I have the belt, so no big deal starting again dying close to the beach, but very cumbersome dying close to the shipwreck.

Not sure how to design this, but having visited the shipwreck it could be great if some new path opened working as a shortcut to the shipwreck from the beach, where you start.

Even speed-running, it takes me 2-3 nights (first day is only 50% daylight) getting to the ship wreck - in order to have a full day to explore the wreck.

I would love a mode, where no animals attack if you have a fire and then you can sleep safely - but where you're dead if you're too slow and don't have a lit fire when darkness and the beasts come. That would still keep the excitement and some stress going - but would keep me from random deaths at night when I have a campfire. Again, you need to sleep - no one can survive with no sleep, it's very unrealistic getting no sleep.

Btw, looks to me that if you have a campfire, you should scare off wild animals and not be attacked:

https://www.quora.com/If-you-sleep-outside-with-a-campfire-what-keeps-animals-from-sneaking-up-on-you-from-the-other-side-of-you

Google Gemini AI seems to agree ;-)

"For the most part, campfires deter wildlife more than attract them. But it's always good to be cautious and aware of your surroundings, especially at night."

[Punisher]

Originally posted by Rune:

Originally posted by fraggyb:

If anything, the days are too long now. I would shorten them by about 2-3 minutes from the 10 they are currently.

It's incredibly easy to explore the entire map in under a weeks game time with little to no effort other than climbing the mountain and zero threats during the day.

Check the screenshot section, people are getting around just fine.

Yes, also the game isn't designed to the current length of day - you can travel to unfinished parts of the map (admitted, does take an effort to do so, lol).

Still, I think the majority of player would not appreciate a shorter day.

For exploration, I start at a certain location, then I go in one direction all day - not caring about making a fire. When the night comes, I quit the game and then start the game again - same day, new morning - to explore something else. This way I can explore most of the island over some days from the same starting point. And that's probably not what the devs intended me to do - but this way is more safe than risking your life every night.

The fix for this is options.
Toggles for peacemode. Set times for day and night. Want a 5 minute day and 20 minute night? Set it yourself. Want a realtime 12 hour day and 1 minute night? Set it yourself.

[dethgamestv]

The Game Does Not need A Peaceful Mode that is crazy talk its already boring enough in the daytime where there is virtually no threat the night time hoards are really the only thing keeping the game exciting this recent patch has hurt the game already by makeing the enemies less aggressive i find it much less fun and extremely boring and lackluster since the most recent update. I think the game was much better before when they showed more aggression day 1 i thought the game was already too easy i survived over 15 days easy on the move devs please stick to your vision of what you were originally doing it was good NO PEACEFUL MODE this is supposed to be a survival game not a tropical getaway vacation we need more challenge if anything is added the game was already too easy. Devs you had something good going on here and takeing feedback from people who are not gamemakers and their ideas are not good for the game this is already going the wrong way and has already removed all excitement from the game in 1 single update a Peaceful Mode will make it worse who would suggest such a thing? Not a true survivor No please do not listen to feedback suggesting foolish ideas like makeing a survival game that is already too easy even less challenging. For 1 the enemies already just circle to fire and dont attack before this update now they dont even attack at all and no music? who approved this idea? For Real? The Music was too load but i like it just need some balance it was a bit too loud im a Partnered YouTuber was looking forward to covering the game in development but if you go the route of making it easier i dont think it will be exciting enough to attract viewers i think they were finding the daytime a bit boring and the night time hoard was the only thing keeping them interested in the game from the feedback i got from viewers. I have a better suggestion then a peaceful mode that will destroy your game i suggest reverting the change in their behavior at night back to the way it was and adding some daytime predators to keep the game more interesting otherwise people will lose all interest in the game before you can blink an eye i promise you that. People are suggesting foolish ideas and it is not wise to listen to ideas from people who are not game devs survival is not meant to be more forgiving people who suggest such things should not play survival games it is just not for them it is their destiny to die true survival is not easy and those want it to be easy truely deserve to die and if they find themselves in a real survival situation one day they shall die for there is NO PEACEFUL MODE in real life survival is not a game its for keeps and there is no respawn. I dont want to hear people crying that the game is too hard that is utter foolishness it was way too easy to begin with this game needs to be alot harder for it to compete with survival games like green hell the last thing it needs is to be easier it needs to be harder and add a story and expand the map bigger maybe add raft building that we can go to other islands in the future and escape the islands like an end game by full release but please don't make it any easier than it already is this last update has already killed all excitement from the game it just feels dead now there is no longer any feeling of threat at all the game is completely ruined im completely turned off from playing because the only threat is completely passive now and daytime is a total bore where did this even come from that the game was too hard? This is crazy talk Peaceful Mode seriously? Do you realise how boring that would be this last update has already made it into peaceful mode if you ask me i was already haveing fun and now my fun is ruined because of these fools complaining that an already easy game was too hard Please Revert the game back to what it was intended to be and dont listen to what players want they aren't the devs you are let them cry add bears to tear them to pieces at night if they cry make it worse add poison to the komodo dragons bite their bite is poison in real life why not here if you want the game to be great make it the hardcore survival game it was meant to be the only way to success is to make the game harder if you want it to truely to be successful. They already did a peaceful mode on Green Hell and it wasn't good they could go play that if they want peaceful mode add more beasts and we need beasts that roam in the day too if you want to make the game better these people have taken a game that was already great and ruined it by crying in a single update why did you listen Devs. where is the voice of reason sometimes you should not listen to players feedback when it is not in the best interest of your game are you makeing a survival game or a vacation game cause thats what it feels like after the last update the beasts just circle and look at us and daytime is completely empty why do we even have a gun for than its no longer needed if there is nothing to fight? These players foolish suggestions should be completely ignored for they will destroy your game if you listen to them. I suggest if you give them a peaceful mode make it a troll 100 times harder and add Bears to tear them limb from limb as soon as it gets dark night 1 because they deserve to die for ruining my fun with the game i was enjoying it very much and it was made easier because a few people complained im already angry that i paid for this and expected it to become harder not a vacation game where is the survival game? Please listen to reason devs this is crazy the direction you are going makeing the game easier what are you thinking its marketed as a survival game survival is not meant to be easy its meant to be hard when there is no escape and the only goal is to see how long we can survive we are meant to die at some point if you make it easier the whole point of this game is completely stupid or just make it the island vacation game seems like the way where going with this update is moving away from a survival game its quite the opposite why dont you just let the players make the game for you and watch it flop because they aren't devs and they have no place to tell you how the game should be the old game devs didn't listen to players foolish suggestions they just made the game how they envisioned it and it was hit or miss but they sold millions of copies do you think they listened to what people told them when the made Metal Gear they just made what they envisioned and it sold millions so don't listen to what people tell you they want its stupid they dont know what they want the devs were already doing a good job on this i wish they would not listen to what people say they want they are NOT game devs and have no idea how to make a game and have no place telling the devs how to make their game. I build computers im not going to ask a normie what parts i should put in my computer why would the game devs listen to players telling them how to make a game when they just play them and not qualified to make suggestions about how the game should be. Please FIX This right away revert this terrible update every night should be a fight for survival i want my VR survival game back not this is very boring now after this recent update its really bad this is what happens when you listen to kids you dont have to listen to people when their ideas are bad

[dethgamestv]

Devs punish them for this not only dont give them a peaceful mode make it harder how dare they complain about an already easy survival game that a 5 year old could survive 15 + days before the last update the enemies bearly come near the fire they just circle passively and the daytime is completely void of any threat how was it too hard? Honestly the devs should make it 100 times harder on you just for suggesting that the game is too hard i just can't comprehend where this is coming from explain how a game with no enemies all day and some come at night and circle around the fire is too hard i only died to them once to the lizards on day 15 and thats fine the whole point of the game is to eventually die there is no escape as of yet thats the whole fun of the game is the survival aspect it should not be made easier for you it was already easy go play Green Hell VR if you want peaceful mode. You should not dictate to the devs how they should make their game there is no good survival games for VR they where doing a good job until you people started telling them what to do and how they should ruin their game let the Devs do what they want and make the game how they envision it not how you want it to be add a peaceful mode are you serious? Go play minecraft VR or something and let the devs do their job if you aren't on the dev team you have no place to make foolish suggestions and tell them how to do their job now because of you they are working on a peaceful mode that is not needed instead of them actually adding to the game and makeing it better i been waiting all year for this game and your dumb suggestions are killing it before it can even take shape how will making it easier and empty of any threat make it better why do you think the forest was successful. This is the reason devs should not listen to what players tell them to do would you tell a mechanic how to build a car for you if you have no idea how to build a car you just drive them. So why would you tell the Devs how to make their game so it falls apart just like your car would because you told your mechanic how to build it when you don't know how to build a car and it explodes. If you aren't on the Dev team you shouldn't tell them what to do you don't make games you just play them they were doing a fine job before you started telling them what to do its not our place to tell them how to make their game even if they think suggestions would help clearly your suggestion are bad and not in the best interest of the game so let the devs make their game and stop telling them what they need to add and what they need to do you already killed the game on them there too many cooks in the kitchen please don't tell them what to do anymore they where doing a fine job and the players suggestions are terrible i hate to see this happen to this game

[Punisher]

1st off. Paragraphs are your friend. Your post is extremely hard to read.

Secondly, it sounds like peaceful mode will be an option. This means that YOU don’t need to use it. At least some of us do want that option as well as other options. I prefer games with options to make games easier. Especially now that I am disabled. Games that were easy for me before would now be near impossible to play without ways to make them easier.

3rd, you mention that there is no peace mode IRL. You are correct, but I don ‘t play games to experience real life. I play them to get away from real life. IRL the day doesn’t last 10 minutes. Should they change this to reflect real 24-hour times? Games are supposed to be fun. Your definition of fun is not the same as mine. Why is your version more valid than mine?

Lastly, while game devs do have their visions of the game, they are also a business and want to make money.
I suspect that they would lose a LOT more money by alienating tons of gamers because they decided to make a hardcore realistic game instead of making that an option for people that want it and an option to turn that off for people that don’t. Unless there is some super technical reason why these can’t be options, I’d say they are much better off making them. As I stated you can always configure your game how you want.

[Punisher]

One other thing I forgot.
One of the points of having EA is to get player feedback. They WANT feedback on their game. Not just bugs, but gameplay feedback as well.