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snuggleform May 21, 2023 @ 2:04pm
"A lesson taught, is a lesson learned"
What does the academic means when he says this? Could this be true in reverse? Is a lesson learned, a lesson taught?

It reminds me of assertions in Shakespeare like saying tis better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all. I could easily assert the opposite and it would just as easy to defend that position.
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Radene May 21, 2023 @ 2:08pm 
It means you can't teach others without learning a thing or two yourself.
Herbspiceguy May 21, 2023 @ 2:08pm 
I took it as, teaching someone/-thing a lesson (punishing, in the idiom sense), is a lesson learned (experience), in the context of the game 'as you fight enemies, you become better at it'.
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snuggleform May 21, 2023 @ 2:10pm 
Originally posted by Radene:
It means you can't teach others without learning a thing or two yourself.

But is the reverse true? Can you learn something without teaching others a thing or two?
HopperUK May 22, 2023 @ 4:42pm 
Of course you can, so? The Academic is explaining his world view. It's not meant to be seen as ultimate truth. Like the Shakespeare quote above. You don't have to agree with it.
HighLanderPony May 22, 2023 @ 6:55pm 
It means, you as a teacher, learn by teaching somebody something.
Abel May 23, 2023 @ 7:11am 
Interesting variety of interpretations!

I think I would give the same answer as HighLanderPony, in a vacuum (as a teacher myself). The idea is when you think about how to teach something, not only do you have to understand the subject well (and even more) you have to think about how it will be received. Basically, the effort you've put into the lesson makes it stick.

Though, it could mean something else in a specific context. In that sense, it could also be a play on the expression (there are a few of them in the game, I recall).
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snuggleform May 23, 2023 @ 7:35pm 
Originally posted by HopperUK:
Of course you can, so? The Academic is explaining his world view. It's not meant to be seen as ultimate truth. Like the Shakespeare quote above. You don't have to agree with it.

Of course it's meant to be seen as the ultimate truth - else, why put the effort into writing and voice acting it? Why immortalize Shakespeare's words but no in reverse? I'm just trying to figure out if there is truth in the inverse statement.

Is a lesson learned, a lesson taught? By learning a lesson, have I taught someone a lesson? I'm super aware of the philosophy that if you teach something you often wind up learning or having to know the material well, but I'm really interested in the opposite statement.

Is a lesson learned, a lesson taught?
LaCriaturaDelMar May 24, 2023 @ 1:40am 
Originally posted by snuggleform:
I'm just trying to figure out if there is truth in the inverse statement.
But why would you do that on a discussion forum about a videogame? Just because the quote that started this comes from DD2 doesn't mean that your inquiry is DD2-related.
snuggleform May 24, 2023 @ 2:18am 
Originally posted by LaCriaturaDelMar:
Originally posted by snuggleform:
I'm just trying to figure out if there is truth in the inverse statement.
But why would you do that on a discussion forum about a videogame? Just because the quote that started this comes from DD2 doesn't mean that your inquiry is DD2-related.

Where else would I do it? It's a quote from this videogame, I think it's entirely valid to discuss quotes from darkest dungeon 2 in a darkest dungeon 2 forum. I find it super interesting that you spend so much time trying to question the question instead of answering it. Instead of trying to do that, I'd rather see you try to defend the inverse statement. I'm well aware of the "blue pill" interpretation of well in order to teach it requires more knowledge and sometimes you get taught more lessons, but I'm much more interested in exploring the unknown of

Is a lesson learned, a lesson taught? Can you give some cool interpretation of this angle rather than the forward angle?
LaCriaturaDelMar May 24, 2023 @ 11:16am 
Originally posted by snuggleform:
I find it super interesting that you spend so much time trying to question the question instead of answering it.
I find it super interesting that you think one single reply with two sentences in it is a lot of time spent.
Leaving that aside, why would I defend any specific statement? I haven't made any claims, I have nothing to defend.
SimplyGnome May 24, 2023 @ 11:53am 
Its common in teaching to hear people say "You learn something new every time you teach". I feel its something similar.
snuggleform May 24, 2023 @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by SimplyGnome:
Its common in teaching to hear people say "You learn something new every time you teach". I feel its something similar.

No no no, I already understand that perspective. I want to hear the inverse proposition. I want to hear someone defend the inverse.

Is a lesson learned, a lesson taught?
Radene May 24, 2023 @ 3:55pm 
Originally posted by snuggleform:
I want to hear someone defend the inverse.

Why? Just for your entertainment?
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