Please tone down the AI

[Dare Evans]

This ♥♥♥♥ is ridiculous sometimes. I got to an exfil with FOUR revives, couldn't get out because the chopper never fully landed and the enemies killed me from anywhere the second I got up. I like that the AI aren't total pushovers but this isn't fun.

[Ahroovi]

I didn't just stand under the helicopter. The enemies spawned right next to me on the coast the second I called it in, all of them already shooting and knowing where I was at. There was no cover there. I took some out, moved back. They pushed while I was reloading. No time to use stim, no time to replace armor, nothing. Just instant spawn lighting me up, and pushing me so fast I could not do anything.

And that was the closest to an extract I've got in solo. Now I can't even make it to an extract without AI just coming out of nowhere and surrounding me with starting gear.
One time I even spawned in about 15 meters from enemies. Died within seconds.

[Dare Evans]

Manic Infidel の投稿を引用：

Dare Evans の投稿を引用：

One, no one asked.

Two, I would consider it a skill issue if I was making any mistakes. When I'm taking cover, and I have no aggro, and then suddenly I'm being shot through walls by 10 armored enemies, what skill is it that I need to make that work for me? I've finished the tough challenge stuff too. I enjoy the challenge. It's just actually unfair right now. I'm not even sure half of it is intentional it's so unfair.

No one needs to ask when I'm making a point that even solo players can unlock the 'hardest' challenges/rewards in DMZ. It's hardly Dark Souls.

Anyway, I already said that tweaks to unrealistic and impossible AI behaviour can and should be made. But you're acting like that type of stuff happens every second you're playing. It just doesn't. That or it actually is a skill issue and you're playing in such a way that you're constantly letting yourself get exposed (however little) every minute that you play. Somehow I doubt it and I think you're exaggerating.

You hadn't agreed with anything until after I had quoted it. But honestly, it's happening almost every game now. I didn't have this problem earlier on. I don't know if there have been changes to the AI since launch but since around the time that the tier 2 missions stopped showing up the other day, I can't get a run off the ground.

[Ahroovi]

I guess we just suck cause my "friend" that just runs off from an engagement and lets me attempt to deal with all the aggro AI, just finished a solo run and got some decent gear from it.
Brought to you by another git gud moment. If I needed any more reasons to get stressed.

[EAX]

playn against that AI is no different than playing against real players using cheats. Alot of the kills caused by the AI feel unfair and suspicious, exactly like it feels against real cheaters.
Had so many scenarios where the AI just headshotted and killed me within 0.1 seconds with 3 armor plates in.
Or even worse, my whole team beeing killed in 0.2 seconds from the sentry carrying the weaponscache aimlocking/ragehacking everyone down.

Like the unarmored AI barely is that much of an issue even while they also can 1shot you down if unlucky, but those plated ones are annoying as hell to a degree, where they entirely ruin the fun of the gamemode.

DMZ as a gamemode is entirely unplayable as a solo since you just end up camping somewhere grinding plates to lose plates and grind them again, never ending AI chase.
And with the entire lack of well made Audio in Modern Warfare 2 (lack of footsteps) it is very likely the AI surrounds you without noticing a thing and suddenly you hear a shotgun sound and you are gone.

I personally feel like the AI should have exactly one purpose: make you aware of other players and give you a second to breath. Only AI next to the M13B or the weaponscaches should be difficult or dealing this much damage.

Overall id say DMZ AI is exactly as frustrating as the Campaign of the Call of Duty Franchise.
Means the increase of difficulty only makes the game terrible or even complete dogsh*t and has no use apart from causing frustration and ruining the game experience.

There is great AI in other Games such as The last of us Part 1, but the Call of Duty AI is some lowend cheating crap that nobody wants to deal with. Its really poorly coded.

[Dare Evans]

Just landed in an empty area by parachute and had three guys spawn on top of me instantly. Poof, out of thin air. Immediately they were shooting at me and I was done. They spawned in killing me. Like, the game isn't finished. I know it has beta in the title but this whole game feels like a beta. Frustrating as hell.

[[FuFo] Mortucus]

the fact they spawn out of thin air around you is what my beef is and they do this ♥♥♥♥ all the time.
the prefixed spawn are fine its these random spawn that suck ass and the tuneing on some of the npc needs to make another pass most npc AI do their job not to hard or to easy bar the grunt npc which are a push over.

but any npc with a battle rifle or markmans rifle will ♥♥♥♥ you up with lazer vision

[Steini]

Rocket launchers, shields and the accuracy of every thrown nade is so much frustrating too after you have allready fighted waves of enemys and get killed by one of this... i hope this will be removed soon because this is way to much... feels like you play campain on veteran.

[Dare Evans]

ETPaule の投稿を引用：

Rocket launchers, shields and the accuracy of every thrown nade is so much frustrating too after you have allready fighted waves of enemys and get killed by one of this... i hope this will be removed soon because this is way to much... feels like you play campain on veteran.

Yeah, the grenades popping up perfectly out of nowhere is pretty silly too. I swear they can go through walls as well.

[elmer-plox]

Thanks you guys for watering down my gaming experience by demanding easier AI. My fun is literally ruined because I know devs will listen you and the game mode will fizzel out into a more boring version of a the old plunder mode and die out. Most likely you are the first ones to stop playing after the changes are implemented that you wanted so bad because game is so "unfun". There is no perfect game balance no matter how much you tweak and tune it. It will every time boils down to a endless cycle of flavor of the month power creep like in the old warzone. My advice is to learn and adapt or move on.

I swear. There should be some sort of "for handicapped" -mode for DMZ so people with disabilities can have their fun without ruining everybody else's fun.

[Ahroovi]

We don't want handicapped mode, we just want the AI to not be able to do ♥♥♥♥ that is impossible for players to (legitimately) do. PC mouse and keyboard users at least.

[Dare Evans]

elmer-plox の投稿を引用：

Thanks you guys for watering down my gaming experience by demanding easier AI. My fun is literally ruined because I know devs will listen you and the game mode will fizzel out into a more boring version of a the old plunder mode and die out. Most likely you are the first ones to stop playing after the changes are implemented that you wanted so bad because game is so "unfun". There is no perfect game balance no matter how much you tweak and tune it. It will every time boils down to a endless cycle of flavor of the month power creep like in the old warzone. My advice is to learn and adapt or move on.

I swear. There should be some sort of "for handicapped" -mode for DMZ so people with disabilities can have their fun without ruining everybody else's fun.

My guy, we're talking about things that are actually not working properly. I don't want it to be easy, I want it to make sense.

[PHALANX380]

elmer-plox の投稿を引用：

Thanks you guys for watering down my gaming experience by demanding easier AI. My fun is literally ruined because I know devs will listen you and the game mode will fizzel out into a more boring version of a the old plunder mode and die out. Most likely you are the first ones to stop playing after the changes are implemented that you wanted so bad because game is so "unfun". There is no perfect game balance no matter how much you tweak and tune it. It will every time boils down to a endless cycle of flavor of the month power creep like in the old warzone. My advice is to learn and adapt or move on.

I swear. There should be some sort of "for handicapped" -mode for DMZ so people with disabilities can have their fun without ruining everybody else's fun.

we just want it to be fair getting lasered at 500m by an RPK is BS having 3-4 nades land right at my feet is BS going to a town not firing a single shoot not even getting visual on a single NPC and the whole town of NPC's just suddenly start hunting you down IS BS.

[PHALANX380]

this BS keeps getting worse jsut did a hostage rescue cleard the whole house got the hostage when i left the room the house was packed with 3 plate NPC's this is bull ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥! if i ever meet the DEV who programmed this BS i am gonna rip his spine out and shove it where the sun don't shine\.

[RIP]

Hey if anyone figures out why my weapons are being limited in a gun game please please break the news to the devs that can issue a guide that will explain how to avoid the cool down on my weapons. Actually it's been 2 ♥♥♥♥♥♥ days since I last had a weapon to play the game.

[ylikki]

Dare Evans の投稿を引用：

This ♥♥♥♥ is ridiculous sometimes. I got to an exfil with FOUR revives, couldn't get out because the chopper never fully landed and the enemies killed me from anywhere the second I got up. I like that the AI aren't total pushovers but this isn't fun.

You're either leaving too late and getting swarmed by hordes of AI or you're not moving correctly both from and to cover.

I kill maybe 30 to 40 AI on average every game and I don't find them hard at all. The basic ones are dead from a single headshots with pretty much any weapon and the armored ones take like quarter of a mag to finish off.

It's the amount that gets you not their toughness.