Potential performance fix that worked for me (RTX 2060 6GB) (tl;dr lower model/texture detail)

[BOT_09]

tl;dr Turn model detail and texture detail to minimum. Or, quit to title screen and re-enter if performance gets awful (usually upon an area transition) and that often helps.

I have a suspicion that a big problem with the performance is overallocation of VRAM, causing huge performance drops where there shouldn't be. In most other games this doesn't cause nearly as much issue, but I have a feeling part of it's because the PS5 has 8GB of VRAM, which is on the higher end of consumer hardware, and the game doesn't properly deallocate video memory, potentially for faster load times.

- Areas that have a lot of different, high detail textures and models hurt performance a lot e.g. the ruined temple in the autumn zone
- Conversely, areas with lots of complex effects but little model/texture variation run great! e.g. the big fields of flowers
- Monsters spawning in their rage effects cause horrible framerate dips
- All other settings impact performance negligibly
- Launching into an area for the first time has fine performance (e.g. launching the game into Minato) but going on a mission will tank performance until you re-launch or sometimes re-log.

[Vesiris]

The ps5 has 16gb of SHARED gddr6 on a 256bit bus.
I do agree that keeping texture/model detail down helps.

The minimum requirements specify that a 1060 6gb is enough for 1080p 30fps LOWEST settings.

Sure the 2060 has somewhere around double the memory bandwidth but that doesnt change the fact that the framebuffer is the same.

[BigDreamer]

ps5 have lowest settings by default but all pc players for some reason want to play max ultra badass 4k rtx settings

[Judarian Gaming]

Originally posted by BigDreamer:

ps5 have lowest settings by default but all pc players for some reason want to play max ultra badass 4k rtx settings

LOL cant even get a steady 60 fps on a 2070 super 8gb vram, 32 gigs of ram. and all the stuff turned completely down or off. not everyone is trying to run the game at those specifications. but koei really ♥♥♥♥ the bed on this one.

[OFENGESICHT]

Originally posted by Judarian Gaming:

Originally posted by BigDreamer:

ps5 have lowest settings by default but all pc players for some reason want to play max ultra badass 4k rtx settings

LOL cant even get a steady 60 fps on a 2070 super 8gb vram, 32 gigs of ram. and all the stuff turned completely down or off. not everyone is trying to run the game at those specifications. but koei really ♥♥♥♥ the bed on this one.

FSR Quality, WQHD (1080 > 1440p DSR) mostly High Settings, except Prod. Dense, Ambient Occlusion and Reflections. These Settings are off/low.

Using a RTX 2070 as well (1920 Core Clock) and a 5800x3D Stock. GPU Usage is between 80-100%. Most of the time I have steady 60 Frames dipping to 50 at its worst.
32GB 3200 Mhz CL16 RAM.

[NOBLExGAMER]

Definitely helped my performance! Running a 1660 Super, Ryzen 5 3600, and 16GB of DDR4 RAM. Went from a stuttering frame rate with severe slow down in some areas to a consistent silky smooth 60fps! Game certainly looks worse unfortunately but it's running fine and I'm having fun so that's what matters!

[Judarian Gaming]

Originally posted by Jona:

Originally posted by Judarian Gaming:

LOL cant even get a steady 60 fps on a 2070 super 8gb vram, 32 gigs of ram. and all the stuff turned completely down or off. not everyone is trying to run the game at those specifications. but koei really ♥♥♥♥ the bed on this one.

FSR Quality, WQHD (1080 > 1440p DSR) mostly High Settings, except Prod. Dense, Ambient Occlusion and Reflections. These Settings are off/low.

Using a RTX 2070 as well (1920 Core Clock) and a 5800x3D Stock. GPU Usage is between 80-100%. Most of the time I have steady 60 Frames dipping to 50 at its worst.
32GB 3200 Mhz CL16 RAM.

im getting steadier frames. i recently bought 2, 2tb m.2's installed fresh windows and i almost get steady 60 when playing by myself

[HartFalleon]

Lowering certain settings may help certain fringe cases, mid-tier systems that are having trouble may be able to claw back some performance by doing so but this is not a fix because you can find many posts (myself included) with GPUs that have 16GBs plus of VRAM and it is not because of a VRAM allocation issue that this game runs like crap.

[Jarol]

Shader compilations.

That's all you are seeing here. Lowering texture and model quality will make these one-time per driver update problems faster but will not remove the fact that the devs need to learn how to make a pre-compilation step.

[Dregora]

Originally posted by BigDreamer:

ps5 have lowest settings by default but all pc players for some reason want to play max ultra badass 4k rtx settings

Buddy it runs ♥♥♥♥ even on the most high end systems. I can't even get a stable 30 fps with a 2080super. I'm not asking to play at 4k ultra epic game graphics, not at all. But 1080 on medium? That's asking for too much?

Have you seen the game? It's not terrible looking but it's also not some next gen looking game. It requires WAY too much for what it offers and that's just bad optimization.

[Audiopython]

Originally posted by Dregora:

Originally posted by BigDreamer:

ps5 have lowest settings by default but all pc players for some reason want to play max ultra badass 4k rtx settings

Buddy it runs ♥♥♥♥ even on the most high end systems. I can't even get a stable 30 fps with a 2080super. I'm not asking to play at 4k ultra epic game graphics, not at all. But 1080 on medium? That's asking for too much?

Have you seen the game? It's not terrible looking but it's also not some next gen looking game. It requires WAY too much for what it offers and that's just bad optimization.

i have about the same performance in 1440p, but even dropping my resolution to 720p and lowest settings which is like xbox360 level of performance task didn't fix anything.
i got a rx 6900xt btw, and a r9 3900x cpu m.2 pci-e 4.0 nvme ssd for the game aswell 32gb ram. the only problems my pc face in terms of running games is dogwater console ports by dev's/publisher's who charge full price for an early access sold as finnished.

[[Dk] Raziel]

If this were to be true, any GPU with more than 16 GB of VRAM should see no issue, and thats not the case, plenty 4090 users (myself included) have ♥♥♥♥♥♥ performance and stutters.

[Hopper]

It's not a matter of highend graCard or CPU or RAM. It's mostly ether hardware problems (e.g. PSU weak, RAM timing, Overheating) or OS (missing updates, drivers, DX11) or other components (Antivirus, etc).
Those following the cleaning and configuration hints can run the game smooth. But many do not understand, or very often are to stubborn to try the settings (but tell us, they did ... they did not very often).
Yes, the game has it's optimization problems, so it stresses the systems to limit. That could be better, and it's getting better.
May be, in rare cases, nothing helps, and it's hard to detect, where the problems come from.
But regulary, it's running without serious problems.

[[Dk] Raziel]

Originally posted by Hopper:

It's not a matter of highend graCard or CPU or RAM. It's mostly ether hardware problems (e.g. PSU weak, RAM timing, Overheating) or OS (missing updates, drivers, DX11) or other components (Antivirus, etc).
Those following the cleaning and configuration hints can run the game smooth. But many do not understand, or very often are to stubborn to try the settings (but tell us, they did ... they did not very often).
Yes, the game has it's optimization problems, so it stresses the systems to limit. That could be better, and it's getting better.
May be, in rare cases, nothing helps, and it's hard to detect, where the problems come from.
But regulary, it's running without serious problems.

No have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about.
Here, take your free Jester

[Hopper]

Originally posted by Dk Raziel:

Originally posted by Hopper:

No have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about.

You found the problem!

[[Dk] Raziel]

Originally posted by Hopper:

Originally posted by Dk Raziel:

No have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about.

You found the problem!

Yes mate, it's you. Every single game works flawlesly in my rig except this piece of garbage, quick! Lets update the antivirus!
What a clown, go farm jesters elsewhere.