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going to give my opinon on one of the final kemono. spoilers in post so dont open.
im sure everyone reading this knows who it entails. the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ tiger. golden tempest is the most over tuned, broken fight ive ever had in a monster hunting game hands down. after the friggin peacock, it goes from a decent fight to balls to the wall chaos nonstop especially the second half of the fight. he was enraged NONSTOP. constantly doing the 3 slam attack, then into the 3 orb followed by the space jam slam. and in between that hes launching exploding orbs and proceeding to jump thru the orb at you so if you dodge left or right he catches you. ive beaten sigrun on GoW, all fatalis in every MH ive played, this fight is just straight up cheap. so far ive only seen videos of people killing it with ranged weapons or cheese strats, and after 30 times trying, i fell victim to using a cheese strat myself. took me a long time but running back and forth spamming celestial cannon and crossbow barrage i managed to kill it.

the second half of the fight, it is constantly nonstop enraged. those huge attacks come one after another after another. and the areas you fight him in are not all big open fields. one of them is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ bridge in an I shaped area surrounded by water. and for some reason, i had him showing skulls for the better half of 20 minutes and then just running away over and over. enter new area. enraged. triple slam, spirit bomb, its insane.

and i know this seems like a git gud post (im trying :'( ) but my god, i cant be the only person who had this issue. the hunt went on so long i lost audio so couldnt tell when he was roaring to triple slam. but the cherry on top is when youre tasked to go hunt it down and kill it in the open area, the request for help doesnt work at all. so i cheesed it. not my proudest moment, but the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing is dead.

TL:DR ♥♥♥♥ golden tempest
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Rena Ichigawa 25/fev./2023 às 19:16 
I 100% agree that Golden Tempest is way beyond overtuned. Went the entire game losing only once to Amaterasu, and one to the deathstalker my first time fighting it. Then along comes Golden Tempest, and just... again... and again... and again I kept losing that fight without end. Even going online to join lobbies doing the fight, it was repeated failures to take it down even once. Literally got stuck on that single fight for three days in a row before it finally went down ONCE. Easily the most unfun fight I've dealt with.
Indure 25/fev./2023 às 19:37 
Could be the weapon, karakuri, and armor you are using. I had a much harder time with both the peacock and Amaterasu. Tiger is much easier to trap and has a decent amount of weak areas so thread build up is easy.

Did you try dropping an elemental lantern to reduce damage and maybe slot some wood resistance armor?

I remember mighty lavabacl and peacock being horrible because I was wearing all deathstalker armor and had like -24 fire resistance.
Última edição por Indure; 25/fev./2023 às 19:39
Banzy 25/fev./2023 às 19:40 
If youre playing solo, Deathstalker, Amateraso and the Golden tesmpest are very clear spikes in dificulty, i had to take stamina management skills to come out on top
I think he's the best fight in the game. So fun. Deathstalker, emberplume, and amaterasu are the other really good ones, but the tiger stands above them all.
Gouenji 25/fev./2023 às 22:47 
Wasn't that hard to me, I only got stuck on the Gritdog as stupid as that sound at first, but after learning how to dodge and use karakuri it's a great fight. Best fight I've had and my most hunted Kemono to me actually, hope you conquer them all
Mike 25/fev./2023 às 22:52 
Escrito originalmente por Chuck ♥♥♥♥ Strong:
Wasn't that hard to me, I only got stuck on the Gritdog as stupid as that sound at first, but after learning how to dodge and use karakuri it's a great fight. Best fight I've had and my most hunted Kemono to me actually, hope you conquer them all

I agree I heard people hyping this monster up and I actually enjoyed the fight a lot. All attacks are pretty heavily telegraphed, and given the generous i-frames in this game you can dodge all of the with proper timing.

I also beat him with a Nodachi. I died the first time learning the fight and the second time I killed him in like 10-12min.


Escrito originalmente por awanderingswordsman:
I think he's the best fight in the game. So fun. Deathstalker, emberplume, and amaterasu are the other really good ones, but the tiger stands above them all.

Agreed, he was really fun and his moves are very cool.
Tako 26/fev./2023 às 1:56 
I.. didn't have too much of an issue with Golden Boi? I died twice on my first time but that was enough for me to understand what his patterns were and his general attacks.

The obvious question is are you properly using your Karakuri? Anchor/Springs for dodging or relocating.. Trap/Harpoon for stuns for forced openings.
Myrrdinn 26/fev./2023 às 3:08 
Celestial Dragon on a melee character isnt much fun either LOL.
Grimzy 26/fev./2023 às 3:30 
Tiger was super fun and actually easy. You can trap him with the chain trap to have free damage to him, even when enraged you can still trap him, albeit not for long but it still provides you a short breathing room.

Or you can use the karakuri that you unlock at the peacock since it gives you a shield to withstand 1 kemono attack.

However, difficulty wise, i think peacock and dragon are easier than the tiger tbh.
Última edição por Grimzy; 26/fev./2023 às 3:30
burntheworld27 26/fev./2023 às 4:22 
Escrito originalmente por Tako:
I.. didn't have too much of an issue with Golden Boi? I died twice on my first time but that was enough for me to understand what his patterns were and his general attacks.

The obvious question is are you properly using your Karakuri? Anchor/Springs for dodging or relocating.. Trap/Harpoon for stuns for forced openings.

i thought i was properly using the karakuri, i felt as if emberplume was more of a learn and youll understand the more you push. decent fight all in all. idk if the tiger was bugged out or something but the second half of the fight was wildly over aggressive. i run bladed wagasa so i can time his 2-3 piece attacks and parry them all almost consistently, but he was so nonstop that i would run out of stamina between parrying and dodging. then if i pulled back to try and heal, the heal animation is a 10th of a second longer than his wind up for his ranged attack and he would spam that 3-4 times and it would go through the geometry. some of his attacks seem to connect before his model hits you which is weird, but i digress. i seen others mention gritdog which i understand alot of his attacks have that half second delay but my god that tiger upset me. im building a hand cannon for the last boss thats just not fun with a melee build. absolutely cinematic fight, visually stunning but the mechanics are alittle lame.
Unrealtairo 26/fev./2023 às 4:34 
Mmm idk, about over tuned

The issue is the play style needed to beat him changes to using the most op combo setup the game has to offer, or a ton of chain traps.

I actually hated the idea of anchor spam attacks a few days but after giving in, ya its definitely the way to go. I think my issue with it is it feels super exploity although apparently its not. We killed him a 2nd time in 3 minutes and got an achievement lol. Broken as hell

GT was when i stopped playing bow on the ground entirely (as in walking around) and started spamming celestial anchors all over the place for infinite haya spread shot spams and easy detonations.

I havent needed to do that the entire game until GT. Wife beat him playing normal but with tons of chain trappings. Instead of spamming ballistas like she normally does lol

Quite a lot of weapons can abuse anchor spams, but a few cannot. For those weapons youre probably stuck with chain spams. Harpoons etc do not last long enough
Última edição por Unrealtairo; 26/fev./2023 às 4:39
burntheworld27 26/fev./2023 às 6:47 
Escrito originalmente por Unrealtairo:
Mmm idk, about over tuned

The issue is the play style needed to beat him changes to using the most op combo setup the game has to offer, or a ton of chain traps.

I actually hated the idea of anchor spam attacks a few days but after giving in, ya its definitely the way to go. I think my issue with it is it feels super exploity although apparently its not. We killed him a 2nd time in 3 minutes and got an achievement lol. Broken as hell

GT was when i stopped playing bow on the ground entirely (as in walking around) and started spamming celestial anchors all over the place for infinite haya spread shot spams and easy detonations.

I havent needed to do that the entire game until GT. Wife beat him playing normal but with tons of chain trappings. Instead of spamming ballistas like she normally does lol

Quite a lot of weapons can abuse anchor spams, but a few cannot. For those weapons youre probably stuck with chain spams. Harpoons etc do not last long enough

bow user... okay. so using a broken weapon combo that you feel is cheap means hes not overtuned. what i take from that is the game is an unbalanced mess. ranged in these games is always easy mode, which is why i refuse to use it. now you get 5 air dodges without using stamina and the ability to shoot nonstop. like ive said, ive only seen people kill this thing using cheese tactics or ranged
Grimzy 26/fev./2023 às 7:20 
Escrito originalmente por burntheworld27:
Escrito originalmente por Unrealtairo:
Mmm idk, about over tuned

The issue is the play style needed to beat him changes to using the most op combo setup the game has to offer, or a ton of chain traps.

I actually hated the idea of anchor spam attacks a few days but after giving in, ya its definitely the way to go. I think my issue with it is it feels super exploity although apparently its not. We killed him a 2nd time in 3 minutes and got an achievement lol. Broken as hell

GT was when i stopped playing bow on the ground entirely (as in walking around) and started spamming celestial anchors all over the place for infinite haya spread shot spams and easy detonations.

I havent needed to do that the entire game until GT. Wife beat him playing normal but with tons of chain trappings. Instead of spamming ballistas like she normally does lol

Quite a lot of weapons can abuse anchor spams, but a few cannot. For those weapons youre probably stuck with chain spams. Harpoons etc do not last long enough

bow user... okay. so using a broken weapon combo that you feel is cheap means hes not overtuned. what i take from that is the game is an unbalanced mess. ranged in these games is always easy mode, which is why i refuse to use it. now you get 5 air dodges without using stamina and the ability to shoot nonstop. like ive said, ive only seen people kill this thing using cheese tactics or ranged

Not sure if you noticed but on some Kemonos arrows will not stick to them unless you fire them at certain spots. So its not always a "easy mode" or "broken".
I beat him with traps and a katana. He is very easy to deal with once you figure out his moves. I also did not use the cannon you unlock with him, was easier to just run outside the blast radius than waste threads.
Solo 26/fev./2023 às 7:25 
Lot of the fights are needlessly hard when playing solo and often become far more trivial in co-op. (Depending on the weapon type you are using)

Some melee weapons are not as well balanced vs ranged. There is no real risk vs reward for in your face melee vs hanging back ranged.

It's still a lot of fun, but unforgiving fights combined with sometime awful frame rates / pacing, makes some fights more of a pain than a pleasure.
Traitor 26/fev./2023 às 7:31 
If you think that fight is bad wait till the final boss......
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