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gryphonv Mar 5 @ 6:26am
Do we know yet if this game will have Denuvo?
I don't like buying games with it, if the PC version has it, I'll probably just get it on PS5.
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Melodia Mar 5 @ 6:41am 
I mean it's not like PS5 is any better. PSN goes down, can't play even if you have a physical copy...
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gryphonv Mar 5 @ 6:42am 
Originally posted by Melodia:
I mean it's not like PS5 is any better. PSN goes down, can't play even if you have a physical copy...


COOL BEANS, but that has nothing to do with my question.
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hush Mar 5 @ 6:45am 
you can check if the game has denuvo at store page
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gryphonv Mar 5 @ 6:46am 
Originally posted by hush:
you can check if the game has denuvo at store page

Didn't know this, where does it show if it do?
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avennelakanti Mar 5 @ 6:48am 
Originally posted by gryphonv:
Originally posted by hush:
you can check if the game has denuvo at store page

Didn't know this, where does it show if it do?

On the right side of the store page. If the game has Denuvo, it will be mentioned. See Sonic Superstars' page for an example.
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gryphonv Mar 5 @ 6:49am 
Originally posted by avennelakanti:
Originally posted by gryphonv:

Didn't know this, where does it show if it do?

On the right side of the store page. If the game has Denuvo, it will be mentioned. See Sonic Superstars' page for an example.

Thank you
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TremiRodomi Mar 5 @ 8:47am 
Sometimes publishers don't bother adding a warning, or worse yet sometimes they'll add the warning a day before release, so be careful. For what its worth though, I don't see any signs of Denuvo in SteamDB here. Better yet, if Konami didn't bother to put it on the Silent Hill 2 Remake, a recent big release, I have good faith that this won't have Denuvo either.
Last edited by TremiRodomi; Mar 5 @ 8:55am
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feno_meno__ Mar 5 @ 9:03am 
Denuvo is restrictive and successful. People just hate it because it works.
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Ray Rook Mar 5 @ 9:06am 
Originally posted by feno_meno__:
Denuvo is restrictive and successful. People just hate it because it works.
It's not successful. It's been proven many times that it just punishes honest consumers that are paying for the games.

That's why it's hated. It's hated because it doesn't work.
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feno_meno__ Mar 5 @ 9:08am 
Originally posted by Ray Rook:
Originally posted by feno_meno__:
Denuvo is restrictive and successful. People just hate it because it works.
It's not successful. It's been proven many times that it just punishes honest consumers that are paying for the games.

That's why it's hated. It's hated because it doesn't work.
There may have been problems with it before, but in 2025 it will work very well
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Ray Rook Mar 5 @ 9:10am 
Originally posted by feno_meno__:
Originally posted by Ray Rook:
It's not successful. It's been proven many times that it just punishes honest consumers that are paying for the games.

That's why it's hated. It's hated because it doesn't work.
There may have been problems with it before, but in 2025 it will work very well
Okay, because you said so...

The only anti-cheat/pirate that works is at the kernal level of PCs. Everything else is just punishing honest players.
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feno_meno__ Mar 5 @ 9:16am 
Originally posted by Ray Rook:
Originally posted by feno_meno__:
There may have been problems with it before, but in 2025 it will work very well
Okay, because you said so...

The only anti-cheat/pirate that works is at the kernal level of PCs. Everything else is just punishing honest players.
As a developer, I don't want my years of work to go unpaid and people try to cheat me. That's why I personally support Denuvo.
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Ray Rook Mar 5 @ 9:28am 
Originally posted by feno_meno__:
Originally posted by Ray Rook:
Okay, because you said so...

The only anti-cheat/pirate that works is at the kernal level of PCs. Everything else is just punishing honest players.
As a developer, I don't want my years of work to go unpaid and people try to cheat me. That's why I personally support Denuvo.
Denuvo doesn't prevent your work going unpaid. It makes your work less optimal than it would be without it to people who did pay for it.
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Minneyar Mar 5 @ 9:34am 
Originally posted by Ray Rook:
That's why it's hated. It's hated because it doesn't work.
On the contrary, it's hated because it works very well at its intended goal: stopping pirates from playing the game. You can count the number of games released in 2024/2025 with Denuvo that have been cracked on one hand, and there aren't that many more from 2023. When a game is cracked, it's almost always because the developers did something dumb like release a demo without Denuvo.

There are a small number of people who will refuse to buy games with Denuvo, and an even smaller number who encounter technical issues that prevent them from being able to play the games they actually bought, but, at least according to the management of companies that use Denuvo, the number of people who will buy a game they can't pirate vastly outweighs the number of people who will refuse to buy it. Denuvo can get away with charging ridiculous licensing fees specifically because it's good at what it does.
Originally posted by Ray Rook:
The only anti-cheat/pirate that works is at the kernal level of PCs.
But that's a completely different thing?

Denuvo is an anti-tamper mechanism that is intended to prevent piracy. Kernel-level anti-cheat software does not prevent piracy at all; it stops people from cheating in always-online multiplayer games. It's also not even completely effective because it's still possible for somebody who is really dedicated to circumvent it by making their own custom kernel-level cheating software, and I would wager it also inconveniences a lot more legitimate players than Denuvo does since Windows-based kernel-level anti-cheat software generally will not work in Linux (i.e., on a Steam Deck).
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mister_lobos Mar 5 @ 9:37am 
there doesn't seem to be any reason to think it does, the only results searching for suikoden remaster and denovo are people asking if it has it.. including this topic.

when denuvo came out it did cause problems, and had some stupid restrictions...
i haven't actually heard of or had any problems with it in a long long time. (to be exact, the ONLY time i had a problem with it was with spore, so 2008 ish)
there is a reasonable chance that some people will figure out how to create mods for the pc version, which sometimes can make a game so much better, or so worth a replay.. like challenge mods, or even complete rebalances, unofficial updates, and new characters..
so i'd definitely go for the pc version of any game even if it does have drm i don't like. (technically i'd rather not have to use steam either)
this is why i'm renaming my ps5 to paperweight 5.
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