The Relics

[Thorgoki]

The relics are just bogus and bad. Why would I want to give the enemy 25% more hp and damage for a 0.1% chance at a chest that drops 50 gold...or have my hp reduced to 1 so I can do double damage...double damage on mobs that take 10 hits is still trash.

I tried to use Melisandre and use the 20% hp buff for the creatures to drop gold (1 whole gold) instead since she gets stronger with kills, and maxed out gold gain with the sub weapon that increases gold...it still isn't worth it. The relics are just bad.

[Raven057]

I agree, they need a rework. I don't want a cursed item for beating a shrine or boss mob for a reward.

[Evan]

The gold-related relics have a purpose, if you stack all 3 on Melisandra + decent DPS build, then you can farm from 25k to 35k gold easily in one run on Stage 2 (example). Not sure how much on Stage 1.

[Sajonji]

The relics should either always include a safe choice (something without downside) or give the option to not pick any.
Getting choice between 1 life but more damage, 20% more enemy hp for coin chance, 25% more enemy hp for chest chance and being forced to pick one is more punishment than reward.

Hopeful relics get improved / balanced with the rest of the game :)

[xs2007]

The 0.1% treasure drop relic is incredibly powerful. Each treasure chest is equivalent to at least one level up. With 0.1% there will on average be one additional chest per 1000 enemies slain, which results in up to 10 extra levels in stage one (10k enemies) or 15 in stage 2 (15k enemies). Also it makes weapon evolutions less of a hassle.

The berserker relic was decent before the nerf, now it's useless. Health on lv up is also nice for non-heal builds. The gold relic is okayish on Melisandre and for the 1 HP thing I didn't find a build, where it actually fits in.

So yeah, relics are not balanced at all imho.

[Evan]

You also need to use those with maxed luck and gold passives, with 75%+ Gold gain and 9+ luck i got a lot of chest with 3-5 items dropped from normal mobs for additional gold gains. As for other two relics, that relic which converts EXP into Gold is kinda strange, you'l still get EXP, just a bit less. So i just stack them for max gains, more mobs HP is not a problem.

[Evan]

Originally posted by xs2007:

The berserker relic was decent before the nerf, now it's useless.

But that one was buffed. I believe before patch it was +200% damage received and +10% damage dealt.

Now it's +100% damage received and +15% damage dealt. I even pick it up now sometimes.

[xs2007]

Well, then my comment was already outdated. I was referring to the +100% damage received, +25% damage done variant, that also was present in the Prologue version of the game and its nerf to +100% received/+10% done.

[Deacon]

Yep, most relics are completely useless (except for gold farm and even there it's not that great) if not a risk.

[Vexov]

Ya. All the relics are bad.

The only 2 that have a strong combo is: "set to 1HP +100% dam (pretty sure it was dam)" and "when health is under 20%(?) gain .... whatever damage%(i think 25%?)". Using those with E-shield.

[Tort]

Originally posted by xs2007:

The 0.1% treasure drop relic is incredibly powerful. Each treasure chest is equivalent to at least one level up. With 0.1% there will on average be one additional chest per 1000 enemies slain, which results in up to 10 extra levels in stage one (10k enemies) or 15 in stage 2 (15k enemies). Also it makes weapon evolutions less of a hassle.

The berserker relic was decent before the nerf, now it's useless. Health on lv up is also nice for non-heal builds. The gold relic is okayish on Melisandre and for the 1 HP thing I didn't find a build, where it actually fits in.

So yeah, relics are not balanced at all imho.

the double damage works great if you have the shield beat the first stage using it. works wonders but absolutely garbage without decent shield.

[Thorgoki]

Originally posted by Evan:

The gold-related relics have a purpose, if you stack all 3 on Melisandra + decent DPS build, then you can farm from 25k to 35k gold easily in one run on Stage 2 (example). Not sure how much on Stage 1.

I don't feel like those damage bonuses for her stack. I tried that on the first run, and yeah, I got some decent gold, but her damage didn't feel better. The sad thing is that she's probably my favorite character since I really enjoy scythes and she starts with them. Plus, it feels like the scythes were nerfed hard lol. I don't feel like any of the % damage boosts have an effect. The numbers don't change from them after stacking up a few. I've gotten to level 90 something, maybe 100 before, and just kept choosing damage as a boost when I could and never saw the numbers change. /shrug, just me though.

[xs2007]

The gold boost on Melisandre is pretty real (at least it was 5 days ago), combined with an evolved holy cross its absurd. See my screenshot here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2875678818
Holy cross doing a chill 19k dps at 12k gold.
I've never encountered anything remotely similar with the other characters.

@Tort:
I usually get the energy shield with 3 charges, but I tend to get hit often enough, that I loose slight portions of health now and than, which would be instant death with 1 HP. However, I also don't play that careful, especially in late game of a run, so maybe it's an issue of playstyle.

[Caz]

Originally posted by Evan:

The gold-related relics have a purpose, if you stack all 3 on Melisandra + decent DPS build, then you can farm from 25k to 35k gold easily in one run on Stage 2 (example). Not sure how much on Stage 1.

I'm convinced the game I bought is not the same one some of you are playing. Either that or the people saying how easy it is are using a trainer of some kind. Not saying this game is hard, but I've seen a lot of claims that just smell really sus.

[CPT NINGLE]

Originally posted by hateryu:

Originally posted by Caz:

I'm convinced the game I bought is not the same one some of you are playing. Either that or the people saying how easy it is are using a trainer of some kind. Not saying this game is hard, but I've seen a lot of claims that just smell really sus.

Or git gud?

This. He brandishes everyone who is better than him a cheater. It's quite pathetic really.