Cookie Cutter

Cookie Cutter

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Thagomizer Dec 17, 2023 @ 7:46am
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Another game made by artists who don't like games?
I've seen a whole lot of these things come our over the last handful of years: CalArts (or similar *cough* cookie cutter) students who want to make a buck and know that videogames is the way to do it these days. No real design chops or love of videogames to be seen, just flashy art that actually looks extremely generic.

Is this another one?
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Jur the Orc Dec 17, 2023 @ 8:39am 
I wouldn't say so. The lead dev, an ex-punk rocker, has stated in an interview a *lot* of different media sources and inspirations that they are known with.
From manga and comics to people he saw at concerts and gigs, from video games to movies and bands. And in the game itself there's a lot of references, easter eggs and shoutouts on its own to find.
The helmet of the Penitent One from Blasphemous, a bit of graffiti of Raz from Psychonauts, some picture of a character from LISA: The Painful RPG, a broken monitor depicting a Hollow Knight look-alike, a Metroid Chozo-like statue, and also references to other media such as Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls on a neon sign or what i assume are shout-outs to band album covers. And a lot more i don't get the references to.

I'm quite a few hours in my own playthrough and i've been enjoying it a lot. It's got its ups and downs and some bits may push people away, which differ from person to person. And people can form their opinions and judgements based on that.
But as a more conccrete, single-sentence answer:
There is definitely substance in Cookie Cutter.

Plus, the devs seem active in communicating with players in regards to feedback, issues and bugs. Issues as it may have, it's hardly a "quick buck" venture.
If you play it, i do hope you will enjoy it. If not, then i hope you'll find something more worth your time soon, and that other people who would enjoy the game find their way to Cookie Cutter.
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ᔕIᑕᕼ Dec 17, 2023 @ 10:30am 
Are you high?
Aaron123 Dec 17, 2023 @ 1:14pm 
Nope! I'm also Incredibly Biased about CalArts stuff (animation buff).

This game looks AND plays great. The controls are tight and snappy exactly how you want. This isn't some rando flash game with great hand-drawn animations. You can tell the developers know what they're doing for the fighting mechanics.

Put your crappy expectations away and try it out!
Last edited by Aaron123; Dec 17, 2023 @ 1:14pm
MarkedMarkyMark Dec 17, 2023 @ 5:03pm 
Oh cool critics that don't know what they're talking about and go ''Cal arts bad'' as a catch all term, get out of your bubble every now and then.

To answer your question, no, game's good, bit horny too, feels almost like an NSFW game without the NSFW. So far.
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ruff1298 Dec 17, 2023 @ 5:11pm 
Originally posted by MarkedMarkyMark:
Oh cool critics that don't know what they're talking about and go ''Cal arts bad'' as a catch all term, get out of your bubble every now and then.

To answer your question, no, game's good, bit horny too, feels almost like an NSFW game without the NSFW. So far.
Sexual content, you mean, there's SO MUCH blood and gore here you can see the Quentin Tarantino and 80s anime OVA inspiration on its sleeve.
CDI Mario Dec 17, 2023 @ 10:54pm 
Originally posted by MarkedMarkyMark:
Oh cool critics that don't know what they're talking about and go ''Cal arts bad'' as a catch all term, get out of your bubble every now and then.

To answer your question, no, game's good, bit horny too, feels almost like an NSFW game without the NSFW. So far.
i looked at the art style and said "this looks like something from tumblr"
Footman Dec 18, 2023 @ 12:12pm 
Talking like this is Day Before.
Thagomizer Dec 19, 2023 @ 8:37am 
Originally posted by CDI Mario:
Originally posted by MarkedMarkyMark:
Oh cool critics that don't know what they're talking about and go ''Cal arts bad'' as a catch all term, get out of your bubble every now and then.

To answer your question, no, game's good, bit horny too, feels almost like an NSFW game without the NSFW. So far.
i looked at the art style and said "this looks like something from tumblr"
100%

I couldn't help but think of the South Park "put a chick in it and make it lame and gay". The line about it being a bit horny isn't a plus in my book, just reinforces that SoCal generic tumblr feel.
kukukachu Dec 19, 2023 @ 10:46am 
Just because things are made by leftists doesn't mean they're not good. Celeste is great, but they REALLY shouldn't have retconned themselves into the game with the DLC. People need to stop injecting themselves into the main characters and just let the main characters be the main characters.

Cookie Cutter is a great game and tough as nails. The aesthetic is more punk than anything and it really can't be lesbian since it's a robot. I understand how you feel after seeing all your entertainment being taken over by those that have an agenda, but I just don't see it in this game other than the beginning, maybe. It sounds to me that you don't understand what punk even is, but what you're seeing throughout this game is more punk than anything.

There's also one more example of a cringe tumblr game that's gonna be awesome...I very much have mixed feelings about it, but Billie Bust Up reminds me of more Nightmare Before Christmas: Boogies Revenge and more of that is good in my book, even if the main character is a blatantly cringe furry.

So in short, games that are made by leftists can indeed be detrimental (look no further than Borderlands and Saints Row...), but so long as they aren't virtue signaling or trying to preach something on their soapbox, then there is no issue with that entertainment being made by those people. If it is blatantly obvious, such as forced diversity and inclusion or "white man bad", then I have problems with that media, but I saw nothing like this in Cookie Cutter.

Oh also Sayonara Wild Hearts is another great game made by leftist ideological people. It didn't ruin the game at all because it didn't focus of any agenda. It just said, this character is this and that they need to heal. It's was great and an amazing experience and I highly recommend it.
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NewMoonShadow Dec 19, 2023 @ 5:54pm 
Originally posted by kukukachu:
The aesthetic is more punk than anything and it really can't be lesbian since it's a robot.

Without wanting to get into a deep convo for once, I always find it hilarious how conservatives can easily accept robots as their chosen gender just based on what they look and act like, but still claim that gender and biological sex are synonyms.

So, gender is set from birth and is based on biology, but an organism with no biological sex at all still gets to claim a gender. Okay, sure, why not?
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kukukachu Dec 19, 2023 @ 6:16pm 
Originally posted by NewMoonShadow:
Originally posted by kukukachu:
The aesthetic is more punk than anything and it really can't be lesbian since it's a robot.

Without wanting to get into a deep convo for once, I always find it hilarious how conservatives can easily accept robots as their chosen gender just based on what they look and act like, but still claim that gender and biological sex are synonyms.

So, gender is set from birth and is based on biology, but an organism with no biological sex at all still gets to claim a gender. Okay, sure, why not?
I think it's more a knee jerk reaction towards all the agenda that's been pushed for over a decade in media entertainment. It's just the pendulum swinging, nothing more.
NewMoonShadow Dec 19, 2023 @ 8:31pm 
Originally posted by kukukachu:
Originally posted by NewMoonShadow:

Without wanting to get into a deep convo for once, I always find it hilarious how conservatives can easily accept robots as their chosen gender just based on what they look and act like, but still claim that gender and biological sex are synonyms.

So, gender is set from birth and is based on biology, but an organism with no biological sex at all still gets to claim a gender. Okay, sure, why not?
I think it's more a knee jerk reaction towards all the agenda that's been pushed for over a decade in media entertainment. It's just the pendulum swinging, nothing more.

The word "agenda" really is amazing isn't it? you can describe anything as an "agenda" and it immediately sounds ten times more nefarious, even when all it's referring to is the acknowledgement that a minority group... exists. And maybe shouldn't be persecuted for no good reason. That would be nice.

"Those damn Care Bears have spent decades spreading their agenda, and must be stopped!"

Thanks for acknowledging that the entire claim of gender being tied to sex is disingenuous fluff used as an excuse to promote hostility and fear, though. Sincerely. It's rare to see that.
Last edited by NewMoonShadow; Dec 19, 2023 @ 8:41pm
kukukachu Dec 19, 2023 @ 8:57pm 
Originally posted by NewMoonShadow:
Originally posted by kukukachu:
I think it's more a knee jerk reaction towards all the agenda that's been pushed for over a decade in media entertainment. It's just the pendulum swinging, nothing more.

The word "agenda" really is amazing isn't it? you can describe anything as an "agenda" and it immediately sounds ten times more nefarious, even when all it's referring to is the acknowledgement that a minority group... exists. And maybe shouldn't be persecuted for no good reason. That would be nice.

"Those damn Care Bears have spent decades spreading their agenda, and must be stopped!"

Thanks for acknowledging that the entire claim of gender being tied to sex is disingenuous fluff used as an excuse to promote hostility and fear, though. Sincerely. It's rare to see that.
Forced diversity and inclusion is not acknowledgement of minority groups, in fact, it doesn't help those people at all, it just hurts them. By forcing these things on people, there is only resentment, division and intolerance being created. Every time someone now sees a diverse group of people for anything, whether it be in a game, or a movie or a cartoon, they will be suspicious and see it as disingenuous propaganda...and that's usually what it is. So thank you for playing. You played yourself :D

You don't force things on people for change, you organically integrate it...that's not what was done.
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NewMoonShadow Dec 19, 2023 @ 9:09pm 
Originally posted by kukukachu:
Originally posted by NewMoonShadow:

The word "agenda" really is amazing isn't it? you can describe anything as an "agenda" and it immediately sounds ten times more nefarious, even when all it's referring to is the acknowledgement that a minority group... exists. And maybe shouldn't be persecuted for no good reason. That would be nice.

"Those damn Care Bears have spent decades spreading their agenda, and must be stopped!"

Thanks for acknowledging that the entire claim of gender being tied to sex is disingenuous fluff used as an excuse to promote hostility and fear, though. Sincerely. It's rare to see that.
Forced diversity and inclusion is not acknowledgement of minority groups, in fact, it doesn't help those people at all, it just hurts them. By forcing these things on people, there is only resentment, division and intolerance being created.

Putting a Trans person in a movie isn't "forcing" anything on anybody. Nobody has to go see any movie, or play any game.

Every time someone now sees a diverse group of people for anything, whether it be in a game, or a movie or a cartoon, they will be suspicious and see it as disingenuous propaganda...and that's usually what it is. So thank you for playing. You played yourself :D

Conservatives will always claim that ANY minority character who gets acknowledged as a minority, no matter how "organic" they are, in a piece of media is "propaganda". Because they hate the person, regardless of how "integrated" they are. They've done it to Gay people since at least the 80's, doing it to Trans people now is just an extension of that.

Hell they've called it "propaganda" when an actual real-life person comes out as Trans online. They do not care. It's literally just hate.

You don't force things on people for change, you organically integrate it...that's not what was done.

"Organically integrate it" is a completely subjective standard that means nothing. If you walk up to a writer and say "integrate this character's identity more organically" they will look at you like you like you grew a second head. Because it's an unfollowable standard with no real definition. You can criticize the way characters in media are handled, but frankly in this instance I don't think it matters how the character is handled. For most people, they don't care how "integrated" a character is, they just hate that they're there.
Last edited by NewMoonShadow; Dec 19, 2023 @ 9:09pm
Ignosius Dec 19, 2023 @ 9:19pm 
Originally posted by kukukachu:
Forced diversity and inclusion is not acknowledgement of minority groups, in fact, it doesn't help those people at all, it just hurts them. By forcing these things on people, there is only resentment, division and intolerance being created. Every time someone now sees a diverse group of people for anything, whether it be in a game, or a movie or a cartoon, they will be suspicious and see it as disingenuous propaganda...and that's usually what it is. So thank you for playing. You played yourself :D
This is so true. I used to not even notice diversity, it was just a part of life. Now after so much time spent forcing it, I find myself subconsciously thinking about stuff like race way more often.

Now I immediately wonder if this character is only here to fill a quota or push some kind of agenda, whereas I used to just accept them as a character regardless. I'm now noticing the ratios of skin colors, genders, and sexualities on display, instead of just enjoying myself.

I don't want to do this, but it's just ingrained now. All this forced acceptance has actually managed to make me less accepting, and that sucks.
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