Tripods copyright

[Ihavsyourpants]

so my biggest question about this game and really the only reason I can't seem to bring myself to support this project is how are they able to use the tripods and sound effects from the movie? like i know War of the Worlds is public domain but I'm pretty sure those specific designs and sounds are copy righted. Does the developer have the rights to use these? Is this and official tie in game for the movies? Because if not i find it hard to believe this project is legal in any way unless the developer is going to change them in the future which if that's the case why even use the tripods from the movies in the promotional material? its just gonna make people think that's what will be in the game and probably upset them whenever the new designs come in if they only came for the movie stuff

[ItsMeJoe]

From the dev -

"Hello, I see your concern however we are in the process of replacing all the sound effects with in house made sounds that are eerily similar to the ones from the movie but not exact so there wont be an issue in terms of sounds. The design of our tripod is not 100% replicate of the ones in the movies but very close. We have a backup design in case we need to replace it in the future but the chances that we are forced to change it are extremely low."

So think its safe to say the dev has their back covered in case of any legal issues.

[Karl Pilkington]

I noticed that in addition to the models and sounds, some scenes in the trailer look near identical to the film. I recently watched it last week and when I saw this, I recognized a few moments that look a little more than "inspired" by the film's cinematography.

[Kit]

Publicado originalmente por Karl Pilkington:

I noticed that in addition to the models and sounds, some scenes in the trailer look near identical to the film. I recently watched it last week and when I saw this, I recognized a few moments that look a little more than "inspired" by the film's cinematography.

There will be sequences that are similar to the film but mostly it will be an open world game

[Machine Spirit]

Publicado originalmente por ItsMeJoe:

The design of our tripod is not 100% replicate of the ones in the movies but very close. We have a backup design in case we need to replace it in the future but the chances that we are forced to change it are extremely low."

So think its safe to say the dev has their back covered in case of any legal issues.

How is this the devs covering themselves legally? Why not use the other (I assume original) design Tripod anyway? The fact they have a backup design is them admitting legal liability.

[ToasterMale]

Publicado originalmente por Machine Spirit:

Publicado originalmente por ItsMeJoe:

The design of our tripod is not 100% replicate of the ones in the movies but very close. We have a backup design in case we need to replace it in the future but the chances that we are forced to change it are extremely low."

So think its safe to say the dev has their back covered in case of any legal issues.

How is this the devs covering themselves legally? Why not use the other (I assume original) design Tripod anyway? The fact they have a backup design is them admitting legal liability.

No, they have a backup design in case paramount DID have issues so they could switch it over and continue working hard on their cool game, this does not show any admitting to "legal liability"

They aren't using the backup Tripod because they don't have to?

He already stated in a LIVE Q&A that he will be talking to paramount very soon, and that most of the War of The Worlds content is under a public domain anyways. Which you can google, there are laws in place to protect people making war of the world content

[Machine Spirit]

I am sure paramount will be very happy the devs have already been using copyright infringed material in their marketing for some time.

[ToasterMale]

Publicado originalmente por Machine Spirit:

I am sure paramount will be very happy the devs have already been using copyright infringed material in their marketing for some time.

Where, and when

[Machine Spirit]

Publicado originalmente por ToasterMale:

War of The Worlds content is under a public domain anyways. Which you can google, there are laws in place to protect people making war of the world content

The book is public domain, not assets from the 2005 movie.

I thought this game was an adaptation of that movie, why? Because they are using the tripod from that movie.

[ToasterMale]

Publicado originalmente por Machine Spirit:

Publicado originalmente por ToasterMale:

War of The Worlds content is under a public domain anyways. Which you can google, there are laws in place to protect people making war of the world content

The book is public domain, not assets from the 2005 movie.

I thought this game was an adaptation of that movie, why? Because they are using the tripod from that movie.

This game is an adaption of the genre, not specifically the 2005 movie. SOME of the design choices from the movie are similar, but they haven't been stolen or copied and pasted. These models and sounds were hand crafted by Raf himself

[Synapt]

Publicado originalmente por Machine Spirit:

Publicado originalmente por ToasterMale:

War of The Worlds content is under a public domain anyways. Which you can google, there are laws in place to protect people making war of the world content

The book is public domain, not assets from the 2005 movie.

I thought this game was an adaptation of that movie, why? Because they are using the tripod from that movie.

While the book may be public domain it may be worth noting that Paramount has owned the trademark[alter.com] on the "War of the Worlds" namesake for games since 2007 when they had originally planned to make a full game from the movie (though they only ended up ever doing a crappy side scroller in 2011 ultimately).

So the dev may want to come up with a new game name as well before any form of actual release.

[Ihavsyourpants]

Publicado originalmente por ToasterMale:

This game is an adaption of the genre, not specifically the 2005 movie. SOME of the design choices from the movie are similar, but they haven't been stolen or copied and pasted. These models and sounds were hand crafted by Raf himself

Being hand crafted does not mean the designs are not stolen. if you hand draw the little mermaid characters from the Disney movie the little mermaid and then make a movie with them that's still stealing even though the little mermaid is public domain and you drew them yourself

[Machine Spirit]

@ihavsyourpants You have quoted me as saying something I never said, ToasterMale said that.

[Moe_king]

Necessary precautions will be taken to make sure the game doesn't have any reason to get taken down by paramount. "Only thing being used at this point is a similar design of the tripods and aliens (not exact), everything else is being made custom, it’s up to paramount if they think that’s a problem but we’ve already arranged for this worst case scenario."

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[MrPinkAdventures]

I am certain if they don't break any laws of copyright the game isn't going to make it very far considering they're using a whole lot of assets and the game is essentially just a asset flip with a tripod they created.

[Machine Spirit]

I get the impression the devs think the worst case is they get told by Paramount to change the assets, like paramount will not seek to complete ruin them and have them paying legal fees for the rest of their lives.