High VRAM usage?

[darkosis]

Okay, after the recent suggestion I went ahead and bought the game but what is this high VRAM usage?

It's eating 99% of my VRAM, like 11GB and no it's not caching preshaders, it's done that already. But the gpu utilization is at 80% and using 20 GB of my RAM. Is this normal? Should I reduce my graphic settings?

The reason why am I freaking out is, normally with my specs I am able to run most of the new games with high/ultra settings without this high usage. Heck even cyberpunk goes as bad as 9GB of VRAM.

I get constant 60 FPS which is more than enough for me as my monitor is just 4k@60Hz. I'm worried this high usage might be detrimental to the lifespan of graphic card or ram or something?

My specs just in case:
rtx 4070
32 GB RAM
Ryzen 5600
4K@60Hz

[Zephyr]

Vanilla unmodded Cyberpunk is not really using a lot of VRAM. It has really terrible Vanilla textures. TLOU can use 13-14 GB of VRAM with max settings at 4K :). The RTX 4070 already does not have enough VRAM for this at 4K and max settings. Btw. this is after the game was more optimized... . But if you do not have stutters or other noticeable issues it still would be ok.

Resident Evil 4 and Control are other game that come right out of my mind which can exceed 12 GB VARM at 4K resolution (there are more). More of this is to come.

In short, yes, what you see is perfectly normal.

[azogthedefiler25]

Yep, what you see is "normal". I play at 1440p using ultra and high settings and the game uses almost 10 gbs of my 12 gb rtx 3080. If another company ported this game that had a better understanding of what they were doing I doubt it would use so much vram.

[Zephyr]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von azogthedefiler25:

Yep, what you see is "normal". I play at 1440p using ultra and high settings and the game uses almost 10 gbs of my 12 gb rtx 3080. If another company ported this game that had a better understanding of what they were doing I doubt it would use so much vram.

At release it was worse :). The game has also nice visuals at least and 9-10 GB VRAM usage at 1440P are not so unusual anymore.

[azogthedefiler25]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zephyr:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von azogthedefiler25:

Yep, what you see is "normal". I play at 1440p using ultra and high settings and the game uses almost 10 gbs of my 12 gb rtx 3080. If another company ported this game that had a better understanding of what they were doing I doubt it would use so much vram.

At release it was worse :). The game has also nice visuals at least and 9-10 GB VRAM usage at 1440P are not so unusual anymore.

It sure as hell isn't common either. At least not for 1440p. It is for 4k. This port was also one of the worst ports of 2023. Same thing with Jedi: Survivor. Games that are properly optimized dont normally require that much vram, unless you are using a bunch of mods, or have raytracing on.

[animal_PLANET]

I have 10GB version RTX 3080. This game used around 9.5GB VRAM. But performance was smooth throughout and no issues. Solid 60 FPS at 1440p.

If you that worried about game using so much VRAM. Try using DLSS or FSR. Which should reduce the load. But if performance is good do not worry. Its normal and will not reduce the life of hardware.

[Zephyr]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von azogthedefiler25:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zephyr:

At release it was worse :). The game has also nice visuals at least and 9-10 GB VRAM usage at 1440P are not so unusual anymore.

It sure as hell isn't common either. At least not for 1440p. It is for 4k. This port was also one of the worst ports of 2023. Same thing with Jedi: Survivor. Games that are properly optimized dont normally require that much vram, unless you are using a bunch of mods, or have raytracing on.

Not yet. But we are getting there in time. Yes, the port was not excactly great.

[animal_PLANET]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von azogthedefiler25:

or have raytracing on.

This game does have real time reflections and shadows. Its not the same as RT but will def add to the load on GPU. Since I had no issues I never bothered to see what the difference is with those settings off. Try it and see if it helps.

[Kimkimone]

Sounds kinda a low?
U are using 9GB at 4K, i use 14GB minimum at 1440p

[Kimkimone]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von azogthedefiler25:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zephyr:

At release it was worse :). The game has also nice visuals at least and 9-10 GB VRAM usage at 1440P are not so unusual anymore.

It sure as hell isn't common either. At least not for 1440p. It is for 4k. This port was also one of the worst ports of 2023. Same thing with Jedi: Survivor. Games that are properly optimized dont normally require that much vram, unless you are using a bunch of mods, or have raytracing on.

It actully is kinda a common now days. Alan Wake 2, Diablo 4 etc can easily use 14gb+ VRAM

[Zephyr]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kimkimone:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von azogthedefiler25:

It sure as hell isn't common either. At least not for 1440p. It is for 4k. This port was also one of the worst ports of 2023. Same thing with Jedi: Survivor. Games that are properly optimized dont normally require that much vram, unless you are using a bunch of mods, or have raytracing on.

It actully is kinda a common now days. Alan Wake 2, Diablo 4 etc can easily use 14gb+ VRAM

Yes, I know at least when going 4K. Many people still need convincing though, that such things are progressive. Like, "I could play with just 8 GB VRAM 2-3 years ago without issues at X resolution and so it must be the same for the next years as well"... . This is no going all that well in newer games for all the people with 8 GB VRAM GPUs out there trying to use them at 1440P with maxed settings. The RTX 3070 (TI) is a prome example for that I think. Still powerful, but way too little VRAM.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kimkimone:

Sounds kinda a low?
U are using 9GB at 4K, i use 14GB minimum at 1440p

9 GB at 4K is unrealistic in this game, it will be more than 10-12 in the best circumstances 14 GB at 1440P seems too high as average, even at completely maxed settings.

[animal_PLANET]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zephyr:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kimkimone:

It actully is kinda a common now days. Alan Wake 2, Diablo 4 etc can easily use 14gb+ VRAM

Yes, I know at least when going 4K. Many people still need convincing though, that such things are progressive. Like, "I could play with just 8 GB VRAM 2-3 years ago without issues at X resolution and so it must be the same for the next years as well"... . This is no going all that well in newer games for all the people with 8 GB VRAM GPUs out there trying to use them at 1440P with maxed settings. The RTX 3070 (TI) is a prome example for that I think. Still powerful, but way too little VRAM.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Kimkimone:

Sounds kinda a low?
U are using 9GB at 4K, i use 14GB minimum at 1440p

9 GB at 4K is unrealistic in this game, it will be more than 10-12 in the best circumstances 14 GB at 1440P seems too high as average, even at completely maxed settings.

Actually, the amount of VRAM doesnt really matter too much. Its about the system being able to swap data fast enough.

As you can see here. Using the 4060 Ti as an example. 16GB vs 8GB VRAM is negligible. As it all depends on how the system can move data in and out of memory. So if you using a fast enough GPU/CPU/RAM. It shouldnt matter too much at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-abxGKJ9D1Y

https://youtu.be/vIW-2qNDF10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhFSlvC2xbg

[Zephyr]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von animal_PLANET:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zephyr:

Yes, I know at least when going 4K. Many people still need convincing though, that such things are progressive. Like, "I could play with just 8 GB VRAM 2-3 years ago without issues at X resolution and so it must be the same for the next years as well"... . This is no going all that well in newer games for all the people with 8 GB VRAM GPUs out there trying to use them at 1440P with maxed settings. The RTX 3070 (TI) is a prome example for that I think. Still powerful, but way too little VRAM.


9 GB at 4K is unrealistic in this game, it will be more than 10-12 in the best circumstances 14 GB at 1440P seems too high as average, even at completely maxed settings.

Actually, the amount of VRAM doesnt really matter too much. Its about the system being able to swap data fast enough.

As you can see here. Using the 4060 Ti as an example. 16GB vs 8GB VRAM is negligible. As it all depends on how the system can move data in and out of memory. So if you using a fast enough GPU/CPU/RAM. It shouldnt matter too much at all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-abxGKJ9D1Y

https://youtu.be/vIW-2qNDF10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhFSlvC2xbg

Yes, that also plays a role. But there are enough cases when people complain about stutters and abysmal 1% lows. That often is because of VRAM and the inability of the used system to compensate quickly enough. Generally, having 12-16 GB VRAM for 1440P and 16+ GB VRAM for 4K is a safe bet and a good investment to avoid current and future issues. Buying 8 GB VRAM GPUs today is seriously a mistake if you plan to play a 1440P within the next few years and your budget is not too constrained. I mean, nobody would gladly consider buying a 12 GB VRAM GPU for 4K nowadays, even if the GPU itself was really powerful enough, so by proportional reasoning 8 GB GPUs are not an especially great consideration for 1440P. I am not saying that it is impossible to play with such GPUs at 1440P, but it is going to force compromises and cause unnecessary grief and hassle in the coming years.

[WeirdScienceX]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Madao:

Okay, after the recent suggestion I went ahead and bought the game but what is this high VRAM usage?

It's eating 99% of my VRAM, like 11GB and no it's not caching preshaders, it's done that already. But the gpu utilization is at 80% and using 20 GB of my RAM. Is this normal? Should I reduce my graphic settings?

The reason why am I freaking out is, normally with my specs I am able to run most of the new games with high/ultra settings without this high usage. Heck even cyberpunk goes as bad as 9GB of VRAM.

I get constant 60 FPS which is more than enough for me as my monitor is just 4k@60Hz. I'm worried this high usage might be detrimental to the lifespan of graphic card or ram or something?

My specs just in case:
rtx 4070
32 GB RAM
Ryzen 5600
4K@60Hz

9 Gb at 4K? I haven't played this for a while but last time I checked I was using ~16Gb at 4K.

[animal_PLANET]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Zephyr:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von animal_PLANET:

Actually, the amount of VRAM doesnt really matter too much. Its about the system being able to swap data fast enough.

As you can see here. Using the 4060 Ti as an example. 16GB vs 8GB VRAM is negligible. As it all depends on how the system can move data in and out of memory. So if you using a fast enough GPU/CPU/RAM. It shouldnt matter too much at all.

Yes, that also plays a role. But there are enough cases when people complain about stutters and abysmal 1% lows. That often is because of VRAM and the inability of the used system to compensate quickly enough. Generally, having 12-16 GB VRAM for 1440P and 16+ GB VRAM for 4K is a safe bet and a good investment to avoid current and future issues. Buying 8 GB VRAM GPUs today is seriously a mistake if you plan to play a 1440P within the next few years and your budget is not too constrained. I mean, nobody would gladly consider buying a 12 GB VRAM GPU for 4K nowadays, even if the GPU itself was really powerful enough, so by proportional reasoning 8 GB GPUs are not an especially great consideration for 1440P. I am not saying that it is impossible to play with such GPUs at 1440P, but it is going to force compromises and cause unnecessary grief and hassle in the coming years.

I understand what you are saying but disagree. Those lows can be due to a lot of things or a culmination of things. But it is rare that VRAM plays a role. Obviously if you trying to play a game on a 10 year old GPU it wont help, but its the actual GPU that causes issues. Not necessarily the memory.

For example. I had a GTX 1080 Ti SLI setup that I used for gaming in 1080p. Eventually got a new monitor with 1440p. It started showing its age and I could no longer play games at high settings and above at a smooth frame rate. Especially with games no longer supporting SLI.

I than bought an RTX 3080 that has less VRAM. It handles 1440p way better than the 1080 Ti and I have had no issues with any game played so far. All set to Ultra and still getting 60+ FPS, but I have V-Sync on so it caps there, but always smooth with no dips. Nothing else was changed in the system and still using that setup today.

So with that said and the videos linked above. Is why I feel VRAM still isnt a deciding factor on why people have performance issues. Especially with more modern GPUs. There are a lot of other factors at play that make performance worse for them or trying to play a more modern game on a GPU 6+ years old thats closer to the lower tier end of the lineup.

[BlastThyName]

this is perfectly normal, nothing to worry about as long as it does not use more vram than you have available