AC6 is the standard for Real/Robot Mecha games going forward

[Gerbera]

Disclaimer or something: Real/Robot is basically like Gundam or Battletech in that there is some logic to how mechs might function oppose to something like Super/Robot, gurren legann where you have universe size lazer drills.

Almost every mecha game on the market that exist (outside of turn base ones) have some sort of fundamental flaw in either their content, presentation or general gameplay. Whether the gameplay formula is a simplistic gimmick that gets old very fast or their content is really bad/has terrible barriers of monetization. AC6, while flawed (did the literal bare minimum with multiplayer and PVE modes), shows how a 'realistic' mecha focus game should be done. Yes the formula can be tweaked for what you're making, but the way things are done in this game adhered to to some degree.

Other notably good mecha games atm are MW5, GBO2, DXM but these has some sort of issue (a barrier to entry) that plagues them from getting players to try them which is a problem. I have no doubt that the upcoming mecha break is gonna have some serious issue with it as its most likely going to have egregious monetization (I hope I'm wrong) since its a pvp focused game in 2023.

EDIT: wanted to add the fact of games like MASS builder, while has a very good customization system and that its core focus, their gameplay is recycled from other genres that does not fit, make sense, or is very shallow.

[Call Sign: Raven]

Realistic? I mean, it's a FANTASTIC mecha game, and should set the new standard moving forward, but realism is thrown out the window on this game. I think the word you may be looking for is BELIEVABLE ENOUGH. lol

[Gerbera]

Originally posted by Call Sign: Raven:

Realistic? I mean, it's a FANTASTIC mecha game, and should set the new standard moving forward, but realism is thrown out the window on this game. I think the word you may be looking for is BELIEVABLE ENOUGH. lol

Realistic as in the real mech genre. Ofc nobody gonna survive piloting a schneider mech quickboosting like a maniac lmao. Its also why I placed quotations after a while while I was typing because there is, of course with almost every real mecha IP, a very unrealistic aspect to it.

[robruckus65]

Armored core has always pretty much been the standard for mech games. They just kind of killed the series a bit with the 5th entry and decided to step away from the series for a decade before making this one.

[Kain]

For a more "realistic" gameplay I prefer MechWarrior since it's a bit more grounded, AC games are great and they do follow some internal in universe logic, but I wouldn't categorize it as realistic myself.

For action games I would def agree, it's the best real genre representation I've seen, but, I'm not familiar with a lot of japanese games in said genre, I would say Front Mission games do a great job though, even though they are turn based tactical games.

[Xaelon]

AC6 was a very fun game but calling it realistic is a stretch. Even if I ignore how the mechs themselves operate outside the laws of physics and ignore material stress AC6 doesn't have any simulation aspects to it.

Bosses have unlimited ammo, your AC just magically gets fixed after every mission, you can't adjust how much armor each part of your mech has, and so on.

How you define 'realism' is up to you of course but realistically there are a lot of logistics involved with the operation of any large armored vehicle and you don't see any of that while playing AC6.

To be clear I'm not saying AC6 SHOULD adopt simulation aspects, Mechwarrior already fills that niche just fine.

[Aldain]

I think the word order would be better if it were "AC6 is the realistic standard for mecha games moving forward".

[Gerbera]

Originally posted by Xaelon:

AC6 was a very fun game but calling it realistic is a stretch. Even if I ignore how the mechs themselves operate outside the laws of physics and ignore material stress AC6 doesn't have any simulation aspects to it.

Bosses have unlimited ammo, your AC just magically gets fixed after every mission, you can't adjust how much armor each part of your mech has, and so on.

How you define 'realism' is up to you of course but realistically there are a lot of logistics involved with the operation of any large armored vehicle and you don't see any of that while playing AC6.

To be clear I'm not saying AC6 SHOULD adopt simulation aspects, Mechwarrior already fills that niche just fine.

"The term realistic in this means part of the real robot genre"

I added this in for a reason.

Every mech game mind you is unrealistic. Even mechwarrior as the setting and the mechs makes no sense (mechs makes no sense in general its purely rule of cool). A tall, bipedal machine thats walking slowly is somehow the most viable option for warfare? One really strong kinetic weapon to the leg and thats it. AC's will most likely kill you in the process with all they BS they be doing.

But when I say realistic mecha, I am referring to the genre it is a part of.

I'll hammer it home again, no mech is realistic. So when I put the term realistic, i'm talking about mecha that are outside (sort of the line gets blurred very quickly) the super robot genre which AC, MW and others fall into.

[Gerbera]

Originally posted by Aldain:

I think the word order would be better if it were "AC6 is the realistic standard for mecha games moving forward".

True it should be structure a bit better but I don't wanna use too much brain power for a steam post lmao. But at the end of the day, realistic or not, the main point still is that AC6 is basically the standard for any 'real genre' type mecha games going foward.

Plus at the end of the day, this is text on a screen in the gutter known as the steam community. No matter how well it is written, somebody somewhere (not in this post, replies and feedback here is good) will spin it in their own fashion in their head and think its something completely different. I had another post where I said this game has little parts and we would like more. Somebody took that and made a peer reviewed PDF document written in times new roman, size 12 and said how this game has the most parts in the AC franchise.

Like..... ok???? I wasn't talking about that tho lmao. So at the end of the day, I ain't gonna put that much effort into editing and reviewing every post I make because some people on here are just, strange. That's all I'll say about them.

[Call Sign: Raven]

Originally posted by Gerbera:

Originally posted by Aldain:

I think the word order would be better if it were "AC6 is the realistic standard for mecha games moving forward".

True it should be structure a bit better but I don't wanna use too much brain power for a steam post lmao. But at the end of the day, realistic or not, the main point still is that AC6 is basically the standard for any 'real genre' type mecha games going foward.

Plus at the end of the day, this is text on a screen in the gutter known as the steam community. No matter how well it is written, somebody somewhere (not in this post, replies and feedback here is good) will spin it in their own fashion in their head and think its something completely different. I had another post where I said this game has little parts and we would like more. Somebody took that and made a peer reviewed PDF document written in times new roman, size 12 and said how this game has the most parts in the AC franchise.

Like..... ok???? I wasn't talking about that tho lmao. So at the end of the day, I ain't gonna put that much effort into editing and reviewing every post I make because some people on here are just, strange. That's all I'll say about them.

Better to just say what you mean than have to fight the entire forum over something that was stated in an unclear fashion, tbh

[Zogtar]

People here strange? First I'm hearing of this

[Sabaithal]

Pretty sure helicopter was a barrier for entry for some people. Yeah, we think its easy because we beat the game X times already, but to a player who hasn't ever played an AC game and doesn't know how to play, its a pretty harsh barrier.

I legitimately think they should have moved it to the second mission by itself, when the player has access to the garage. Teach the player to change out parts to deal with a difficult opponent.

[zmanbuilder]

Originally posted by Call Sign: Raven:

Realistic? I mean, it's a FANTASTIC mecha game, and should set the new standard moving forward, but realism is thrown out the window on this game. I think the word you may be looking for is BELIEVABLE ENOUGH. lol

If you were to daydream about using a giant robot, what kind would you dream about, something grounded enough in reality to be easily understood, but still fantasy enough to be fun and epic.

I think the game strikes a good balance.

[Demonos3]

Sure.

[Tanegi]

The OP was just using realistic as in Real/Super Robot subgenre of mechs not as in Realism

A lot of people here misinterpreted this and discuss about how AC6 is not realistic instead (which OP seems to understand as well)

Couldn't blame anyone here though, it's a term that mostly used in Japanese mech anime discussion instead so I'm sure not everyone who play AC6 aware of the term.

.That said, stuff that get categorized as Real Robo could be a ridiculously overpowered tech. Gundam, for example, is the entire reason this subgenre existed in the first place lol

[Fingusa of the East]

Realistic? AC series is just a step away from a Gundam game...

Even something like Mechwarrior of the Battletech universe is not super realistic but at least its kinda grounded. Like there is an attempt.

Raven and his AC would not survive the intro screen, let alone all of the crazy stuff he does.