Good missiles for stagger buildup?

[Enderspoons]

I seem to consistently pick some non-optimal selections for my shoulder slots in PVP, so I was wondering what recommendations y'all have.

[Lone fisherman]

well most missiles tend to be a decent choice for building stagger since it's their primary characteristic, although the problem is finding ones that hit, i personally really like the plasma missiles, while their stagger damage isn't a lot they tend to hit often so it kinda evens out, also the javelin beta tracer missile is good. Remember seeing a video on youtube going more into depth about it, try searching for it, should be easy enough

[SCamp]

Suggest choosing your missiles depending on playstyle. But for starters...

- If you're aggressive, I suggest using Active Homing Missiles or Coral Missiles as part of your chase routine.
- If you play more range, then Truenos are pretty strong and can capitalize on ranged staggers.
- If running a build with a 150 Energy Firearms Specification, then run Auroras. They are pretty strong after the 1.03 patch.

Though most other missiles do quite well. (Ignore vertical normal missiles since they leave much to be desired. Vertical Plasma Missiles are fine, however.)

The general suggestion is to carry 2-3 different types of missiles so that it's hard for enemies to keep track of their differing flight patterns/times.

General breakdown:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEQ6pSpeGAQ
And addendum for the 1.03 patch:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hxU71XyYh4

Also check out Meep's videos on various missile categories as it's more specific about their strategies:
https://www.youtube.com/@MeepSpelar/videos

[ImHelping]

For what should be obvious but a lot of on paper numbers don't pay off for. Missiles need to hit to cause stagger.

While lower on the total stagger front, the basic horizontal x6 missile launcher is one of the most reliable in the entire game. it also works point blank. it has also been my #1 weapon for feather tapping terminal armor users trying to flee across the map and hiding behind an object or building.

Split missiles are strong damage per weight/drain. but those need to actually hit. I get my best results mixing them in with more basic missiles (to the point I have started using the smaller damage x2 pair just because they recharge/lock a little faster). GREAT odds against people who still think quad legs are meta, or have their back turned dueling someone else though.

Slow boat active tracker missiles is a case of "Are you fighting a heavy build? or a light/teleporting boss". For them to work on a light you get best results being aggressive enough to distract them into a cruel choice. For final bosses you just pray they don't teleport across the arena right before they make contact.

My most frequently successful "Anti missile missile light" has often resulted on top of one zimmer for drive by jousting. x4 hand missile (FAST. also works point blank). x6 horizontal (point blank capable after a kick. fast. huge tracking distance) or some kind of pincher missile depending on duelist/keep away baby chasing. Funhaver 3rd missile which is often a pair of split missiles.

of course I shoehorn in the monster truck engine with 4,000 capacity, so it can AB extra long while still being in the 370 boost range.

[Dakota]

P32 duo missiles with the 6 shots, not the larger and more expensive one that staggers. Those will give you great stagger buildup while being reliable. The dual active homing missile also has even betters stagger output but it's so slow and may not be as reliable against some targets. The Jvln beta is also a good high stagger option but the path may be unreliable against some targets but it is good at getting around shields too.

[Scrub McDuff]

Have always thought missiles were to "maintain" stagger, not to build stagger. The siege types I thought were mostly PVE vs large bosses, no clue how they work in PvP.

[Dakota]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Scrub McDuff:

Have always thought missiles were to "maintain" stagger, not to build stagger. The siege types I thought were mostly PVE vs large bosses, no clue how they work in PvP.

Numbers wise, they have pretty bad stagger output over time, and the smaller ones are really just for maintaining it, though some of the bigger launchers can bring someone up to overload if the volley hits. The biggest split missile launchers for example if you get a couple of those and the enemy doesn't dodge them they're staggered unless they're a heavy tank, but the reload time is pretty long on them so their numbers over time are worse than some other options.

[Sabaithal]

Needle missiles are my choice. They build up stagger quickly, and they travel VERY fast. Treat them like cannons more than missiles.

My main boss buster build (for they all have the same weaknesses) used dual needle launchers. Its only mediocre against other ACs though.

[Meemai]

BML-G2 P03MLT-06 might likely be my favourite for brawling.

You can both shoot them from mid range, or just use them point blank like you would use a shotgun, since all its 6 missiles fire almost instantly.

BML-G1 P20MLT-04 also work if you really feel the need to go very lightweight.

The HML-G2 P19MLT-04 also works very well for adding to stagger if you can remain at mid-range, they tend to miss more at short ranges. It is just 4 missiles, but they add a lot to stagger and damage per missile fired is higher than the usual.

Used in pairs, these add a lot to stagger.

[ImHelping]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Sabaithal:

Needle missiles are my choice. They build up stagger quickly, and they travel VERY fast. Treat them like cannons more than missiles.

My main boss buster build (for they all have the same weaknesses) used dual needle launchers. Its only mediocre against other ACs though.

While they did neuter the tracking on the kinetic missiles, my insane bizzaro universe tactic with them still seems to work.

When the target is at high stagger but has plenty of health left, finish the Stagger with something else. WAIT. Don't shoot the needle at them while staggered if they are heavy (one of the few benefits a heavy has is the damage on needle missiles is much weaker anyways). Thet start moving again. WAIT.

Their stagger meter is now empty. NOW fire them and laugh as their panic dodging when they recovered means they could not evade the needle missile 90% of the time, and they are already back to 1/3-1/4 stagger.

A bit more of an iffy tactic against lights to wait for a delayed after recovery shot. but a light will take real proper damage for shooting them when staggered with the needle missile if you don't have anything bigger anyways, so less reason to use this "Why does this idiocy WORK 99% of the time!?" tactic on lights.

[D. Flame]

I would think that the starting plasma missiles would be the best choice. The have a large AoE, and they reload very quickly, so you can have missiles in the air almost 100% of the time if you stagger your shots.

[NONAME]

Dual Zimms + Dual Plasma shotguns + Heavy Chassis will beat 90% of the opponents in PVP. There are very few counters to this build and most of them aren't 100% surefire wins.

[nubi]

Soup is by far the best back missile to reliably build up stagger, Huxley is also a very good back weapon to build stagger if you are looking for non missile options.

[REAPER]

If you want to win real bad why not just use a karasawa ?

Assault boost kick + charged karasawa is a true combo,
it staggers up to 2300 altitude stability ....

[nubi]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Reaper:

Assault boost kick + charged karasawa is a true combo

its not, and even if it was no one would let you land a kick on them with a very obvious fully charged karasawa lit up on full display

[REAPER]

Oprindeligt skrevet af nubi:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Reaper:

Assault boost kick + charged karasawa is a true combo

its not, and even if it was no one would let you land a kick on them with a very obvious fully charged karasawa lit up on full display

Oprindeligt skrevet af nubi:

Oprindeligt skrevet af Reaper:

Assault boost kick + charged karasawa is a true combo

its not, and even if it was no one would let you land a kick on them with a very obvious fully charged karasawa lit up on full display

I have done it many times with this build, some of you may have even played with me.
I don't use any shoulder weapons cause i don't need any.

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