whats the deal with the OG raven?

[Von Grenadus]

Didn't we find his corpse in a junkyard or something? Why did the seemingly elite merc npcs and the PCA all spoke highly (in a good way and bad way) of an F-ranked mercenary who died an unremarkable death and got his driver's license stolen off of his corpse. And what is it with the operator 'testing' us and all of the high and mighty speech of being a symbol of freedom or something, like, b**** please, maybe if the previous raven didn't have skill issue he wouldn't end up as a rusted junk on a random city.

[Call Sign: Raven]

I'm pretty sure that all the mechs are being piloted remote. We see a lot of people that we destroy come back in later missions for revenge or payback.

[This PC]

Originally posted by Call Sign: Raven:

I'm pretty sure that all the mechs are being piloted remote. We see a lot of people that we destroy come back in later missions for revenge or payback.

Am actually not even sure anyone is even physically there. ~_~
We never see a human for the entire game.
Concerning OP:
Raven isn't really a name attributed to a single person as far as I understand, it's more something akin to a title

[Intel]

Some type of Ejection system, You're an augmented human, whatever that means. I don't feel like there is an actual person in the mech, but somehow if you dont eject on time it can kill you? Idk if there's an explanation or not.

[Von Grenadus]

Originally posted by Call Sign: Raven:

I'm pretty sure that all the mechs are being piloted remote. We see a lot of people that we destroy come back in later missions for revenge or payback.

What are you talking about, ejection seats exists, but some of the people died. Hawkins died, Pater survived (he took Hawkins rank during prison break, taking the name V.V Pater) Volta Died, you can see his corpse on the wallclimber mission, and his last words to Iguazu. Michigan died, either by you or by Rusty. Snail died in NG++ when we ambushed him on institute city.

[Sabaithal]

Maybe he dropped his license on a mech he destroyed? Or maybe that pilot ran into something real nasty early on (like, say a huge attack helo with tons of missiles) and just got bad luck?

There is quite a difficult spike different (or rather the opposite) between that tutorial boss and pretty much everything else in chapter 1 aside from the chapter boss.

[HypetheKomodo]

I feel that 'Raven' is a bunch of ideals, and NIGHTFALL is an AI embodying those ideals. Despite NIGHTFALL falling she still talks as if 'Raven' is still around, and that they'll keep an eye on you.

The license we took initially may have belonged to a less successful version of 'Raven'.

I'm more interested in knowing who 'Raven''s Operator is.

[Von Grenadus]

Originally posted by This PC:

Originally posted by Call Sign: Raven:

I'm pretty sure that all the mechs are being piloted remote. We see a lot of people that we destroy come back in later missions for revenge or payback.

Concerning OP:
Raven isn't really a name attributed to a single person as far as I understand, it's more something akin to a title

So an F-Rank mercenary who couldn't handle himself is worthy of the name Raven?

[Von Grenadus]

Originally posted by HypetheKomodo:

I feel that 'Raven' is a bunch of ideals, and NIGHTFALL is an AI embodying those ideals. Despite NIGHTFALL falling she still talks as if 'Raven' is still around, and that they'll keep an eye on you.

The license we took initially may have belonged to a less successful version of 'Raven'.

I'm more interested in knowing who 'Raven''s Operator is.

That's actually plausible. Though I took Nightfall falling as more of them successfully ejecting after we disabled their AC. That's why the operator still talked as if Raven is still around

[nubi]

We are all Raven

[Aldain]

Originally posted by nubi:

We are all Raven

We all float down here Raven.

[✰N0ni✰]

Originally posted by Von Grenadus:

Originally posted by This PC:

Concerning OP:
Raven isn't really a name attributed to a single person as far as I understand, it's more something akin to a title

So an F-Rank mercenary who couldn't handle himself is worthy of the name Raven?

If you want to get technical, new people start out as an F-rank merc and can't handle the tutorial boss.

Jokes aside, Raven essentially just being a title was passed onto that AC which includes all the baggage the name carried, were gunned down by PCA since that name is such a high profile target for them and then you go and pick up the ID triggering the Heli to go after you. You'll notice inbetween the 1st and 2nd IDs that the heli couldn't care less about your existence and won't attack you until you pick up Raven's ID.

[s0d0]

Originally posted by nubi:

We are all Raven

this

[s0d0]

Originally posted by HypetheKomodo:

I feel that 'Raven' is a bunch of ideals,

exactly, it is also explained in the game to some extent. Pay more attention. :)
And the pilots are in their machines. You are an augmented human who just looks like a corpse in a bag (you can see this in the story trailer)

there are a lot of other augmented pilots in the game, but also some people control mechs who are just normal, it seems.

[Von Grenadus]

Originally posted by ✰N0ni✰:

Originally posted by Von Grenadus:

So an F-Rank mercenary who couldn't handle himself is worthy of the name Raven?

If you want to get technical, new people start out as an F-rank merc and can't handle the tutorial boss.

Jokes aside, Raven essentially just being a title was passed onto that AC which includes all the baggage the name carried, were gunned down by PCA since that name is such a high profile target for them and then you go and pick up the ID triggering the Heli to go after you. You'll notice inbetween the 1st and 2nd IDs that the heli couldn't care less about your existence and won't attack you until you pick up Raven's ID.

That makes sense, but then, during the Cataphract mission, what's up with the captain eventually realizing that the guy he's facing (us) is not raven? it implies that the PCA has a specific database on the individual pilot Raven. Or does that means they have the data for all of the ravens? or are they also not aware that Raven is not just one person

[Merlin]

The road is not always yellow!