the full team qadistu fight is the worst mandatory boss in megaten history

[the big zam]

Are there any bosses actually designed more horribly than this?
maia oroborous?
mem aleph?

am i the only one

[COCAINE BEAR]

What was so bad about maia and MA?

[SkaaTerminator]

i havent gotten to that part yet so I have no opinion on it, but i can think of mandatory Bosses much worse than Ouroboros (the fight is not even hard) and Mem Aleph (definitely hard but nowhere near as hard as Inaruna).

1.Dantalion's second fight from Giten Megami Tensei
2.Druj from Shin Megami Tensei IF....
3.Pandora's second phase from Megami Ibunroku Persona (and im talking about the PSX JPN ver of that fight)
4.Two Specific Fights from SMT IVA but i really hate that game so i'm not even gonna mention them.
I don't think (but maybe when i get around to it) that boss fight you mentioned will ever be as bad as Dantalion's second fight, literal oneshots to your party and he is 10+ levels above you and your party. Also ♥♥♥♥ Druj with her instakill and healing spam.

[Part-Time Prick]

Originally posted by luke-hime:

Are there any bosses actually designed more horribly than this?
maia oroborous?
mem aleph?

am i the only one

Do you mean that in the sense it was really easy once you get past one of them? Cause I just bulldozed them and they were stuck summoning allies after the first two turns

[SkaaTerminator]

I just fought them and beat them, nah still cant compare to Dantalion. It can be hard until you throw phys block in the mix and the fight becomes a joke (this is hard mode btw). There is literally no counter for dantalion, other than finding a way to prevent him one shotting you and your party. Oh i forgot to add one boss to the mix and that is Beelzebub from Jack Bros. Dantalion, Pandora (Butterfly), Beezlebub, and Druj are the definition of cancer.

[El_Sama]

Very easy fight, compared to the later fights like Tiamat it requires no preparation, had more trouble with Hydra due to lower level and weaker monsters.

[ThatRandomGamer]

It's a much more manageable fight when you realize 3 things:
1. You only need to kill Lilith
2. It will be a few turns before Lilith brings back any of the other qadistu, giving you some breathing room
3. Multi hit Phys and Light attacks grant you a press turn. If you really want to cheese the fight, get Cleopatra early and she wrecks their faces

[0rion_09]

Try to use Onyankopon's Tetrakarn and Unique taunt skill to make them lose/waste turns. That way they wouldn't have enough actions per turn to cast Naamah's debuff or even Lilith's Unique skill (Phys block+dekunda).

And don't kill Eisheth, she is the key here. Keeping her alive will actually help you more than it does you harm. Of course you would also have to cast tetrakarn or at least Phys block every turn. Don't forget to cast buff and debuff as well.

(I know this is late, but in case anyone else is struggling, you can try this out.)

[Topzchi]

nah its alright, beat it on hard already :DD

you can counter them by optimizing your team, fuse better demons and strategize.

smt v isnt even hard game if we are not counting superbosses

[Wintermute]

Beat on hard, found it pretty easy but not too entirely sure if that's because of the fight being easy or how busted the DLC Demon Sakuya is, pretty much had infinite uptime on Stat Buffs, heals MP via her unique skill and Magatsuhi ability.

[Fenrir]

Originally posted by ThatRandomGamer:

It's a much more manageable fight when you realize 3 things:
1. You only need to kill Lilith
2. It will be a few turns before Lilith brings back any of the other qadistu, giving you some breathing room
3. Multi hit Phys and Light attacks grant you a press turn. If you really want to cheese the fight, get Cleopatra early and she wrecks their faces

Just wanna point out the second statement isn't true actually. She'll revive a Qadistu on every single turn and that's even just playing the game on normal difficulty, lol. That's what made the fight annoying for me anyway. She just kept respawning one every single turn, so we constantly had to focus the add every time it came back, giving us less opportunities to attack Lilith.

The fight itself wasn't particularly difficult, but I do still think it's corny af whenever a boss can just constantly resummon adds during the fight, especially every turn. That's not difficult, it's just lame and time consuming.

[TheHeeHomie]

I literally opened the fight with Frost Storm and the fight became much easier. Also made it so that I can avoid dealing with the turn 1 Qadistu magatsuhi skill and manage the other Qadistu fine.

It's a really fun fight to be honest.

[Aragorness]

I keep seeing these posts complaining about the most trivial of bosses ever. Bosses that I barely remember the mechanics to be able to give any insight and help. I know I prob sound like an ass but i'm really curious. Am I the only one that only did have any difficulty fighting the super bosses?

[Sejman22]

Just kill ASAP Agrat, before they start to use Quaditsu Entropy. After that spam Tetrakarn = ez win, because Lilith go first with buffs, and after that Eisheth attacks you ALLWAYS by only physical attacks, so she waste turns. Tauntrakarn combo is very OP in this game.

[Sejman22]

Originally posted by El_Sama:

Very easy fight, compared to the later fights like Tiamat it requires no preparation, had more trouble with Hydra due to lower level and weaker monsters.

Yes, especially Mastema was annoying with his OP passive and pierce Wind Attacks + Charm / Freikugel spam, when he is under 50% HP.

[Varshyl]

Whirlwind magatsubi is excellent in this fight. It takes 50% of their HP besides Lilith and debuff them.