Tips for masakado.

[HPedroso]

Hey guys. I'm in my first playthrough.

Put my demons to level 99. And I'm trying to beat him. My damage is pretty good. I'm using Sakura nahobeeho and Beelzebub. Doing more or less 4k per turn and more in omagatoki critical.

I can survive pretty much everything he throws except for the execution move. I have tons of repel, resist and drains. But when his health bar gets to red and he start do spam this move every turn it's a lottery. Sometimes it does only 250hp and I repel or drain or null his next attack. I heal myself attack and he lands a critical that kills 2 members and things from there are pretty hard to recover.

I'm ALMOST killing him. His freikugel it's ok if he does not spam 3 in a row. Or 2 critical in a row too but sometimes it kills and I lose a enduring soul..

Well the problem is literally the final part. Is there any tip to metigate that move? Even kananbi veil can't resist sometimes. And since I don't know when he's gonna use it's first execution move I can't prepare myself for sure.

Sorry about my English. Not my native language.

Edit 1: I could only beat him using strategize but that was boring and a cheese fight so I don't count it. I wanna beat fair and square. (I can say that strategize is fair but we all know that ♥♥♥♥ is broken af) Haha

[Mistie]

My noob build against him first time i faced him was Yoshitsune, Abdiel, and any support. Kannabi Veil was useless against him, but if you use magatsuhi from Abdiel(or any Herald race), "Shield of God". it is something what can really help to reduce practically all gamage of Masakado because it reduces damage for 90% even monster damage from Masakado will turn to small 50-100 damage even if he crits.

Still not best strategy but at least it was fair and inventively. And it's not really guaranteed me victory, which further emphasized all the risks and the fact that this is not an ideal strategy, rather something that you can come to yourself in complete randomness. Even when I fully dedicated myself to this strategy when I discovered him, I still died 2 times against him. But on the 3rd time, luck helped me and I defeated him.

[Mistie]

But for now i think more interesting strategy is using Onyankopon and his unique taunt skill for Nahobino + Luminescent Mirage to 100% dodge the 1 attack, at least not let Masakado beating everyone in your team before of his last stage, absorbing and other thing let you save other team member, stll not save if he start using his unique skill.

[Mistie]

For future still not tried i want to use Cherub, Alice and maybe Metatron with basic crit Magatsuhi. With Cherub innate skill Everyone starts hit more than 2-3 hits.

[HPedroso]

It's my first CoC run so I don't have mirage yet. I'm trying to think out of the box. Like I said my problem is the ring of the first execution. If I kannabi and defend that turn in survive just fine. But it's só random the crits that I'm never safe. My damage is pretty good with Jack tempest and murakumo.

I'm gonna try to use strategize but to bring 3 or 2 other demons to preserve sakuya enduring soul and nahobeeho. And bring them back after 2 rlexedurions. Maybe something like that. The fight is a blast in the first playthrough because of this. It's a tende fight but bad designed because it's so rng based. I think I got 4 freikugel one time. I just put the controller down and layed myself in fetal position hahhahaha

[Arifufu]

i don't get it, you said strategize is cheese, but you ALSO use SAKUYA, replace her with Demeter/Tao/Huang Long then you can have a real fair and square fight

[HPedroso]

Originally posted by Arifufu:

i don't get it, you said strategize is cheese, but you ALSO use SAKUYA, replace her with Demeter/Tao/Huang Long then you can have a real fair and square fight

Yeah but at least u still fight with her and u let the boss attack and stuff. But I used idun. I don't had Demeter yet and dint have enough resources to make tão build complete.

I beat him with idun cause I got bad rng and my sakuya died in 4 turns so it was a waste of time trying to revive her.

[HPedroso]

Originally posted by Mistie:

For future still not tried i want to use Cherub, Alice and maybe Metatron with basic crit Magatsuhi. With Cherub innate skill Everyone starts hit more than 2-3 hits.

Sooooo I managed to best him o///// thanks for the tips. I tried everything and it wasn't working. Until I used nahobino and gave him all the repels and drains possible. (I let fold weakness because I didn't had a single res for cold haha and I was out of macca)

Murakumo and fierce roar. He used elec force and physical a lot só I robbed pretty much all his turns. And when I got to the last part I stopped using buffs só recalcitrant execution was doing 300 hp and I robbed his turn after. He always used elemental and not a single cold the entire fight haha..

Rng was at my side. Used omagotoki critical the entire fight and when I was sure I was gonna kill him I used debilitate and I diiiiiid it o/// I am happy and fulfilled haha 3 days trying. That's why I love this type of games. The feeling of finally beating a boss that was driving u crazy is exhilarating. Only games that can give me that is souls series for obvious reasons haha..

[Mistie]

Originally posted by HPedroso:

Originally posted by Mistie:

For future still not tried i want to use Cherub, Alice and maybe Metatron with basic crit Magatsuhi. With Cherub innate skill Everyone starts hit more than 2-3 hits.

Sooooo I managed to best him o///// thanks for the tips. I tried everything and it wasn't working. Until I used nahobino and gave him all the repels and drains possible. (I let fold weakness because I didn't had a single res for cold haha and I was out of macca)

Murakumo and fierce roar. He used elec force and physical a lot só I robbed pretty much all his turns. And when I got to the last part I stopped using buffs só recalcitrant execution was doing 300 hp and I robbed his turn after. He always used elemental and not a single cold the entire fight haha..

Rng was at my side. Used omagotoki critical the entire fight and when I was sure I was gonna kill him I used debilitate and I diiiiiid it o/// I am happy and fulfilled haha 3 days trying. That's why I love this type of games. The feeling of finally beating a boss that was driving u crazy is exhilarating. Only games that can give me that is souls series for obvious reasons haha..

Good luck with Satan.

[K9ofChaos]

Originally posted by HPedroso:

Hey guys. I'm in my first playthrough.

Put my demons to level 99. And I'm trying to beat him. My damage is pretty good. I'm using Sakura nahobeeho and Beelzebub. Doing more or less 4k per turn and more in omagatoki critical.

I can survive pretty much everything he throws except for the execution move. I have tons of repel, resist and drains. But when his health bar gets to red and he start do spam this move every turn it's a lottery. Sometimes it does only 250hp and I repel or drain or null his next attack. I heal myself attack and he lands a critical that kills 2 members and things from there are pretty hard to recover.

I'm ALMOST killing him. His freikugel it's ok if he does not spam 3 in a row. Or 2 critical in a row too but sometimes it kills and I lose a enduring soul..

Well the problem is literally the final part. Is there any tip to metigate that move? Even kananbi veil can't resist sometimes. And since I don't know when he's gonna use it's first execution move I can't prepare myself for sure.

Sorry about my English. Not my native language.

Edit 1: I could only beat him using strategize but that was boring and a cheese fight so I don't count it. I wanna beat fair and square. (I can say that strategize is fair but we all know that ♥♥♥♥ is broken af) Haha

If you figure out what to do to defeat Masakado, let me know. I don't want to use the Omagotoki Strategize strategy either. Not because I'm against cheesing an opponent, but all the switching around to get the exact effect right just seems too complicated for me.

Originally posted by Mistie:

My noob build against him first time i faced him was Yoshitsune, Abdiel, and any support. Kannabi Veil was useless against him, but if you magatsuhi from Abdiel(or any Herald race), "Shield of God". it is something what can really help to reduce practically all gamage of Masakado because it reduces damage for 90% even monster damage from Masakado will turn to small 50-100 damage even if he crits.

Still not best strategy but at least it was fair and inventively. And it's not really guaranteed me victory, which further emphasized all the risks and the fact that this is not an ideal strategy, rather something that you can come to yourself in complete randomness. Even when I fully dedicated myself to this strategy when I discovered him, I still died 2 times against him. But on the 3rd time, luck helped me and I defeated him.

So far I've completed both the "A Plot Revealed" and "The Noble Queen" subquests in the Empyrean. So I seem to be on track for the secret true neutral ending. Do I unlock Abdiel after fighting her in the Empyrean? How many bosses do you fight before you get to Lucifer? Is it Tsukuyomi, Nuwa and Abdiel in that order?

Originally posted by Mistie:

But for now i think more interesting strategy is using Onyankopon and his unique taunt skill for Nahobino + Luminescent Mirage to 100% dodge the 1 attack, at least not let Masakado beating everyone in your team before of his last stage, absobing and other thing let you save other team member, stll not save if he start using his unique skill.

What build would you recommend for Onyankopon? My current build for him is as follows:

Onyankopon:
>King of Tales+5
>Donum Magici+5
>Diamrita+3
>Tetrakarn+5
>Donum Gladi+5
>Mediarama+3
>Enduring Soul
>Resist Phys

Originally posted by Arifufu:

i don't get it, you said strategize is cheese, but you ALSO use SAKUYA, replace her with Demeter/Tao/Huang Long then you can have a real fair and square fight

I have Konohana Sakuya in my party as well. Other than her and the MC Nahobino by default, what other two demons would you recommend that I use against Masakado? Shiva, Beelzebub, Dagda, DEmeter, Onyankopon, or some other demons?

[HPedroso]

Originally posted by K9ofChaos:

Originally posted by HPedroso:

Hey guys. I'm in my first playthrough.

Put my demons to level 99. And I'm trying to beat him. My damage is pretty good. I'm using Sakura nahobeeho and Beelzebub. Doing more or less 4k per turn and more in omagatoki critical.

I can survive pretty much everything he throws except for the execution move. I have tons of repel, resist and drains. But when his health bar gets to red and he start do spam this move every turn it's a lottery. Sometimes it does only 250hp and I repel or drain or null his next attack. I heal myself attack and he lands a critical that kills 2 members and things from there are pretty hard to recover.

I'm ALMOST killing him. His freikugel it's ok if he does not spam 3 in a row. Or 2 critical in a row too but sometimes it kills and I lose a enduring soul..

Well the problem is literally the final part. Is there any tip to metigate that move? Even kananbi veil can't resist sometimes. And since I don't know when he's gonna use it's first execution move I can't prepare myself for sure.

Sorry about my English. Not my native language.

Edit 1: I could only beat him using strategize but that was boring and a cheese fight so I don't count it. I wanna beat fair and square. (I can say that strategize is fair but we all know that ♥♥♥♥ is broken af) Haha

If you figure out what to do to defeat Masakado, let me know. I don't want to use the Omagotoki Strategize strategy either. Not because I'm against cheesing an opponent, but all the switching around to get the exact effect right just seems too complicated for me.

Originally posted by Mistie:

My noob build against him first time i faced him was Yoshitsune, Abdiel, and any support. Kannabi Veil was useless against him, but if you magatsuhi from Abdiel(or any Herald race), "Shield of God". it is something what can really help to reduce practically all gamage of Masakado because it reduces damage for 90% even monster damage from Masakado will turn to small 50-100 damage even if he crits.

Still not best strategy but at least it was fair and inventively. And it's not really guaranteed me victory, which further emphasized all the risks and the fact that this is not an ideal strategy, rather something that you can come to yourself in complete randomness. Even when I fully dedicated myself to this strategy when I discovered him, I still died 2 times against him. But on the 3rd time, luck helped me and I defeated him.

So far I've completed both the "A Plot Revealed" and "The Noble Queen" subquests in the Empyrean. So I seem to be on track for the secret true neutral ending. Do I unlock Abdiel after fighting her in the Empyrean? How many bosses do you fight before you get to Lucifer? Is it Tsukuyomi, Nuwa and Abdiel in that order?

Originally posted by Mistie:

But for now i think more interesting strategy is using Onyankopon and his unique taunt skill for Nahobino + Luminescent Mirage to 100% dodge the 1 attack, at least not let Masakado beating everyone in your team before of his last stage, absobing and other thing let you save other team member, stll not save if he start using his unique skill.

What build would you recommend for Onyankopon? My current build for him is as follows:

Onyankopon:
>King of Tales+5
>Donum Magici+5
>Diamrita+3
>Tetrakarn+5
>Donum Gladi+5
>Mediarama+3
>Enduring Soul
>Resist Phys

Originally posted by Arifufu:

i don't get it, you said strategize is cheese, but you ALSO use SAKUYA, replace her with Demeter/Tao/Huang Long then you can have a real fair and square fight

I have Konohana Sakuya in my party as well. Other than her and the MC Nahobino by default, what other two demons would you recommend that I use against Masakado? Shiva, Beelzebub, Dagda, DEmeter, Onyankopon, or some other demons?

Hey. I killed him pretty much after deciding to use my nahobino as a decoy. Fierce roar and all repels and drain possible (only ice weakness and he didn't used ice once)

My problem was when he started to use recalcitrant execution. But when I felt that he was about to use it I changed Beelzebub to metatron.

Didn't used debilitate on him and I survived the execution move. He don't cirt. It's totally rng. But I was robbing him pretty much every turn since he was attacking my repel or null/drain..

Used nahobeeho with Jack tempest doing ♥♥♥♥ ton of damage. Sakuya and Beelzebub/metatron. Used Baal too because he killed nahobeeho with 3 freikugel in a turn where I forgot to use fierce roar hahaha.

[K9ofChaos]

Originally posted by HPedroso:

Originally posted by K9ofChaos:

If you figure out what to do to defeat Masakado, let me know. I don't want to use the Omagotoki Strategize strategy either. Not because I'm against cheesing an opponent, but all the switching around to get the exact effect right just seems too complicated for me.



So far I've completed both the "A Plot Revealed" and "The Noble Queen" subquests in the Empyrean. So I seem to be on track for the secret true neutral ending. Do I unlock Abdiel after fighting her in the Empyrean? How many bosses do you fight before you get to Lucifer? Is it Tsukuyomi, Nuwa and Abdiel in that order?



What build would you recommend for Onyankopon? My current build for him is as follows:

Onyankopon:
>King of Tales+5
>Donum Magici+5
>Diamrita+3
>Tetrakarn+5
>Donum Gladi+5
>Mediarama+3
>Enduring Soul
>Resist Phys



I have Konohana Sakuya in my party as well. Other than her and the MC Nahobino by default, what other two demons would you recommend that I use against Masakado? Shiva, Beelzebub, Dagda, DEmeter, Onyankopon, or some other demons?

Hey. I killed him pretty much after deciding to use my nahobino as a decoy. Fierce roar and all repels and drain possible (only ice weakness and he didn't used ice once)

My problem was when he started to use recalcitrant execution. But when I felt that he was about to use it I changed Beelzebub to metatron.

Didn't used debilitate on him and I survived the execution move. He don't cirt. It's totally rng. But I was robbing him pretty much every turn since he was attacking my repel or null/drain..

Used nahobeeho with Jack tempest doing ♥♥♥♥ ton of damage. Sakuya and Beelzebub/metatron. Used Baal too because he killed nahobeeho with 3 freikugel in a turn where I forgot to use fierce roar hahaha.

Thanks for responding. Unfortunately I don't have access to Metatron yet because I decided to go for the Destroy The Throne option in my bid to achieve the True Neutral Ending. Though if I pay the Archangel Michael enough Macca to let me do his quest, I could do that. Is that a viable option?

[HPedroso]

Originally posted by K9ofChaos:

Originally posted by HPedroso:

Hey. I killed him pretty much after deciding to use my nahobino as a decoy. Fierce roar and all repels and drain possible (only ice weakness and he didn't used ice once)

My problem was when he started to use recalcitrant execution. But when I felt that he was about to use it I changed Beelzebub to metatron.

Didn't used debilitate on him and I survived the execution move. He don't cirt. It's totally rng. But I was robbing him pretty much every turn since he was attacking my repel or null/drain..

Used nahobeeho with Jack tempest doing ♥♥♥♥ ton of damage. Sakuya and Beelzebub/metatron. Used Baal too because he killed nahobeeho with 3 freikugel in a turn where I forgot to use fierce roar hahaha.

Thanks for responding. Unfortunately I don't have access to Metatron yet because I decided to go for the Destroy The Throne option in my bid to achieve the True Neutral Ending. Though if I pay the Archangel Michael enough Macca to let me do his quest, I could do that. Is that a viable option?

U fight metatron before the decision about the throne. I mean.. u already killed him to get get to this part I guess

Take a look at ud compendium. But u don't necessarily need to use him. U could totally use Odin with figment slash. Critical zealot, murderous glee etc. The only thing bad about using him is that metatron is easier to slot resistances. But if u use nahobino as a bait Odin can keep spamming figment slash (put safeguard on him so if he miss u don't lose two turns)

[K9ofChaos]

Originally posted by HPedroso:

Originally posted by K9ofChaos:

Thanks for responding. Unfortunately I don't have access to Metatron yet because I decided to go for the Destroy The Throne option in my bid to achieve the True Neutral Ending. Though if I pay the Archangel Michael enough Macca to let me do his quest, I could do that. Is that a viable option?

U fight metatron before the decision about the throne. I mean.. u already killed him to get get to this part I guess

Take a look at ud compendium. But u don't necessarily need to use him. U could totally use Odin with figment slash. Critical zealot, murderous glee etc. The only thing bad about using him is that metatron is easier to slot resistances. But if u use nahobino as a bait Odin can keep spamming figment slash (put safeguard on him so if he miss u don't lose two turns)

I actually was able to fuse Metatron just now. I thought you needed to fusion Gabriel into Michael and then Michael into Metatron. But I was able to get him by checking my reverse fusion compendium and Metatron was luckily not a special fusion. But I like your Odin recommendation as well.

[HPedroso]

Originally posted by K9ofChaos:

Originally posted by HPedroso:

U fight metatron before the decision about the throne. I mean.. u already killed him to get get to this part I guess

Take a look at ud compendium. But u don't necessarily need to use him. U could totally use Odin with figment slash. Critical zealot, murderous glee etc. The only thing bad about using him is that metatron is easier to slot resistances. But if u use nahobino as a bait Odin can keep spamming figment slash (put safeguard on him so if he miss u don't lose two turns)

I actually was able to fuse Metatron just now. I thought you needed to fusion Gabriel into Michael and then Michael into Metatron. But I was able to get him by checking my reverse fusion compendium and Metatron was luckily not a special fusion. But I like your Odin recommendation as well.

U can use yoshitsune too, hassou tobi does a ♥♥♥♥ ton of damage BUT. He will get killed by recalcitrant execution unless u put a lot of vitality on him. Odin is more likely to survive and figment slash +9 I think does more damage than hassou.

Try it and see what happens. But from all the things I saw, blocking physical on nahobino and draining/repel was só efficient that I killed him in my second try after Respec to this build and I dint changed anymore. My nahobino can do decent damagenbut all my setup is for masakado right now.

My crits with freikugel are 3k and recalcitrant execution after he has luster candy from sakuya and kannabi veil/concentrate are a joke. Hits for more than 7k pretty much every turn. On bosses it hits for a little less.

U can totally use masakado as ur solo dps. I'm gonna put some damage in Beelzebub just to change things up because only attacking with one char can become boring after a while haha.

Good luck and let me know if u manage to beat him. Gonna be rooting for u haha

[K9ofChaos]

Originally posted by HPedroso:

Originally posted by K9ofChaos:

I actually was able to fuse Metatron just now. I thought you needed to fusion Gabriel into Michael and then Michael into Metatron. But I was able to get him by checking my reverse fusion compendium and Metatron was luckily not a special fusion. But I like your Odin recommendation as well.

U can use yoshitsune too, hassou tobi does a ♥♥♥♥ ton of damage BUT. He will get killed by recalcitrant execution unless u put a lot of vitality on him. Odin is more likely to survive and figment slash +9 I think does more damage than hassou.

Try it and see what happens. But from all the things I saw, blocking physical on nahobino and draining/repel was só efficient that I killed him in my second try after Respec to this build and I dint changed anymore. My nahobino can do decent damagenbut all my setup is for masakado right now.

My crits with freikugel are 3k and recalcitrant execution after he has luster candy from sakuya and kannabi veil/concentrate are a joke. Hits for more than 7k pretty much every turn. On bosses it hits for a little less.

U can totally use masakado as ur solo dps. I'm gonna put some damage in Beelzebub just to change things up because only attacking with one char can become boring after a while haha.

Good luck and let me know if u manage to beat him. Gonna be rooting for u haha

I have Yoshitsune, but I plan to get rid of him as soon as I unlock Masakado for fusion. I don't mind attacking with one character if it means consistent damage. But I have my Beelzebub so that he has his Death Flies attack in addition to debilitate. That in addition to Konohana Sakuya with Agidyne and Zandyne gives me at least two backup attackers.

So if I got this right, your Nahobino is a dodge tank build, right? Can you tell me which eight skills I should equip mine with? Something like this?:

Dodge Tank Nahobino:
>Kannabi Veil
>Fierce Roar
>Drain or Repel Phys
>Drain or Repel Fire
>Drain or Repel Elec
>Drain or Repel Force
>Drain or Repel Light
>Drain or Repel Dark

My Odin Build after reading your advice:
>Gungnir+6
>Figment Slash+6
>Hades Blast+6
>Narukami+4
>Critical Aura+2
>High Elec Pleroma
>Critical Zealot
>Murderous Glee

Konohana Sakuya build I copied from one of Rozalin's YouTube videos:
>Sakuya Sakura+5
>Bowl of Hygieia+5
>Agidyne+5
>Zandyne+9
>Heal Pleroma
>High Heal Pleroma
>Great Mana Spring
>Resist Elec

Using the format above, what builds would you recommend I use for Nahobeeho, Beelzebub and Metatron? Or do the rest of their skills not matter as long as they got one or more attacks and/or passive skills of note?