Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance

Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance

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Gogmagog vs Masakado single target burst damage
Gogmagog build:
- Figment Slash +9
- Physical Pleroma
- High Physical Pleroma
- Critical Zealot
- on Impaler Animus status effect
- party is Arahabaki + Xiezhai + Xiezhai affinity MC
- (Dragon Eye + Beast Eye + Xiezhai passive accuracy bonus, but irrelevant for the damage calc)

Masakado build:
- Recalcitrant Execution +9
- Almighty Pleroma
- High Almighty Pleroma
- Critical Zealot
- on Critical Aura status effect
- on Omogatoki: Luck (or any other omogatoki that is not boosting power or crit)
- on +2 Taru/Raku/Suku
- (Murderous Glee + Bloody Glee; if these two make the crit chance to be very high, can change Critical Aura to Charge)

Which one has the highest single hit damage vs 1 enemy assuming same STR and level?
Originally posted by Arifufu:
Gogmagog win, Xiezhai has 7 weaknesses x 2 = 14 +Gogmagog himself have 5 weaknesses = 19 + 4 from Arahabaki so 23 x 5 = 115% damage up for Gogmagog

while Masakado with 3 buff only add 30% critical damage and with an omagatoki skill so 40%, also Execution has lower damage base even under critical hit (280) while figment (300)

Masakado only able to catch up with Gogmagog if you replace Excecution to Rampage + use any omagatoki skill + deploy Mermaid so rampage has a chance to deal 4 hit againts a single enemy. Add Makarakarn + Taunt + Kannabi Veil on top Masakado so he can get 8 active buff (9 if you let Masakado get a single ailment but i don't recommend this one), so 80% additional critical damage for Masakado

then impaler's animus is 30% damage up, and tarukaja 2x is 40% damage up

so the rough calculation will be (since both have pleromas and zealot, i won't count them), both under critical hit condition:
Gogmagog: 300 x 2,15 x 1,3 = 838,5
Masakado: 280 x 1,4 x 1,4 = 548,8

if i replace Execution with Rampage, Mermaid, omagatoki skills + 7 other active buff: (based damage 180, assuming rampage landed 4x all crits)
180 x 4 x 1,8 x 1,4 = 1814,4

even better if both Masakado and Gogmagog with Impaler's Glory, full tarukaja, Masakado under 8 active buff including any omagatoki skill:
Gogmagog: 300 x 2,15 x 3,4 x 1,4 = 3070,2
Masakado: 180 x 4 x 1,8 x 3,4 x 1,4 = 6168,96
> but it's hard to manage all 4x Rampage always landed crit, except you use omagatoki: crit
> also Rampage is not always landed 4x, sometimes 3x or 2x even with Mermaid deployed
> This is basically Nahobino (any essence) + Masakado + Mermaid + Arahabaki VERSUS Nahobino (Xiezhai essence) + Xiezhai + Gogmagog + Arahabaki

*Feel free to correct me, this is just my rough calculation
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Arifufu Feb 20 @ 4:04pm 
Gogmagog win, Xiezhai has 7 weaknesses x 2 = 14 +Gogmagog himself have 5 weaknesses = 19 + 4 from Arahabaki so 23 x 5 = 115% damage up for Gogmagog

while Masakado with 3 buff only add 30% critical damage and with an omagatoki skill so 40%, also Execution has lower damage base even under critical hit (280) while figment (300)

Masakado only able to catch up with Gogmagog if you replace Excecution to Rampage + use any omagatoki skill + deploy Mermaid so rampage has a chance to deal 4 hit againts a single enemy. Add Makarakarn + Taunt + Kannabi Veil on top Masakado so he can get 8 active buff (9 if you let Masakado get a single ailment but i don't recommend this one), so 80% additional critical damage for Masakado

then impaler's animus is 30% damage up, and tarukaja 2x is 40% damage up

so the rough calculation will be (since both have pleromas and zealot, i won't count them), both under critical hit condition:
Gogmagog: 300 x 2,15 x 1,3 = 838,5
Masakado: 280 x 1,4 x 1,4 = 548,8

if i replace Execution with Rampage, Mermaid, omagatoki skills + 7 other active buff: (based damage 180, assuming rampage landed 4x all crits)
180 x 4 x 1,8 x 1,4 = 1814,4

even better if both Masakado and Gogmagog with Impaler's Glory, full tarukaja, Masakado under 8 active buff including any omagatoki skill:
Gogmagog: 300 x 2,15 x 3,4 x 1,4 = 3070,2
Masakado: 180 x 4 x 1,8 x 3,4 x 1,4 = 6168,96
> but it's hard to manage all 4x Rampage always landed crit, except you use omagatoki: crit
> also Rampage is not always landed 4x, sometimes 3x or 2x even with Mermaid deployed
> This is basically Nahobino (any essence) + Masakado + Mermaid + Arahabaki VERSUS Nahobino (Xiezhai essence) + Xiezhai + Gogmagog + Arahabaki

*Feel free to correct me, this is just my rough calculation
Last edited by Arifufu; Feb 20 @ 5:00pm
So, the +2 Taru is counted as 1 buff instead of 2 buffs for Masakado passive?
Arifufu Feb 20 @ 7:41pm 
yes, so total Masakado only can hold 9, so 90% critical damage if you manage to apply them onto Masakado:
1. Tarukaja, 2x also counted as 1 buff, including tarunda also counted as 1 buff
2. Rakukaja, 2x also counted as 1 buff, including rakunda also counted as 1 buff
3. Sukukaja, 2x also counted as 1 buff, including sukunda also counted as 1 buff
4. any omagatoki skill, even if you have Oma: Luck + Oma: Crit activated in the same time, still counted as 1
5. Taunt
6. Makarakarn/Tetrakarn, choose one, usually i go with makarakarn
7. Kannabi Veil or Shield of God, obviously Kannabi Veil is much easier to use also cheap
8. any charge such as Impaler's Glory or Animus, charge, concentrate etc
9. (optional) under ailment effect, like mirage, you still able to able use skill but yea with much lower accuracy, or poison. Mirage can be applied from Muscle drink (RNG), but Poison can only be applied from enemies
Last edited by Arifufu; Feb 20 @ 7:53pm
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