Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance

Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance

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Andrew R Jul 24, 2024 @ 4:50pm
Hayataro is wiping the floor with me?
He is weak to force & dark but his healing is driving me nuts.

I'm lv.30 and under. Tips?
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Togles Jul 24, 2024 @ 5:03pm 
if you kill atsuta the fight is won, try to resist hayataros moves and focus on the guy.
Andrew R Jul 24, 2024 @ 5:21pm 
Originally posted by Togles:
if you kill atsuta the fight is won, try to resist hayataros moves and focus on the guy.

You cannot attack the dude until Hayararo is down?
Togles Jul 24, 2024 @ 5:40pm 
Originally posted by Andrew R:
Originally posted by Togles:
if you kill atsuta the fight is won, try to resist hayataros moves and focus on the guy.

You cannot attack the dude until Hayararo is down?


oh yeah true sorry i forgot he uses taunt.

yeah still, try to use resists, debuff his attacks and get as many press turns as possible, the demons in that area should be useable or atleast have fusions that are good against them.
Blunette Jul 24, 2024 @ 6:06pm 
Bring something that Nulls Light and something that Absorbs Frost. King Frost is great for the latter since Atsuta only Resists Ice and isn't immune to it, which means you can drop the Frost's signature skills without worry of losing press turns. Yuzuru will likely lose turns with Shard spells and if he picks Ice Shard, turn's over instantly. Dekaja also helps nullify Witness Me's double evasion and thus cripples Hayatoro's crit rate as well. The only problem with going after Hayatoro's Force resistance is that Force-affinity demons are almost ALWAYS Electric-weak and Hayataro's packing Ziodyne. Better to go after the Dark weakness and just make sure you don't get Hama'd by Light Shard, easier to cover that up with Resist Light off a Jack Frost.
Andrew R Jul 24, 2024 @ 7:08pm 
I've heeded the advice but about ready to give up.

Been at it for almost an hour.
Smugleaf Jul 24, 2024 @ 7:54pm 
If you're level 30, it'd probably be better to do some grinding first or complete sidequests since Hayatoro should be level 38.
Yuzuru is predictable and alternates between Ice and Light shards, and having a demon drain his item spam immediately ends their turn. There's nobody that drains or repels Light at this point, but both Jack Frost and King Frost drain Ice and resist Light (though Jack Frost needs to be leveled up first to get the passive to Resist Light), Anahita drains Ice and nulls Light, and Forneus also drains Ice but you'd have to waste time switching him out since he's weak to Light.
If you have Xiezhai, the demon required for the Hare of Inaba sidequest, he can be useful since he nulls both Ice and Light. Only main problem is that he's weak against ailments and Yuzuru does sometimes throw in a Sleep Gem in there, but it shouldn't too much of a major problem.
Cironnup has good resistances for the fight and also has Cautious Cheer.
If you're having trouble outdamaging his healing, then debuff him with Rasetsu Feast instead of using Critical.
Bingus Jul 24, 2024 @ 8:10pm 
It's a DPS check more than anything. You get 1-2 turns after killing him to unload on Yuzuru. You can attack him the same turn he summons with no issue. Use everything you have and he will melt pretty badly. I don't really think you need anything in particular except to be able to press-turn your way into killing Hayataro in a single turn or two since he spends one taunting.

It's difficult to give you advice without seeing your party comp or demons. What's your build for the MC? When are you unleashing your charges, and for what?

I warn you that in the last 15-20% of the game there are several level spikes. An unfortunate aspect of this game is that damage calcs are affected by level. You may just need to go do a few sidequests if you aren't willing to put extra prep into the boss.
Haruspex Jul 24, 2024 @ 9:15pm 
Get Rebima or whatever the skill that aggros everything around you and increases encounters. You can use that in the overworld
Aggro everything on the warehouse with five jackfrost in and get like 30k+ exp or some ♥♥♥♥. Because you get EXP multiplier based on how many encounters you finished
You'll be over level for the entire game beside Super bosses.
Last edited by Haruspex; Jul 24, 2024 @ 9:16pm
LoVeSuns Jul 24, 2024 @ 10:27pm 
Isn't he level 38? Why are you trying to fight something 10 levels higher than you?
Last edited by LoVeSuns; Jul 24, 2024 @ 10:59pm
TheHeeHomie Jul 24, 2024 @ 10:33pm 
Oh great, Atlus literally made it a point that level scaling was fixed in 5V and people still go on about being underlevelled and needing to grind?

Originally posted by Smugleaf:
If you're level 30, it'd probably be better to do some grinding first or complete sidequests since Hayatoro should be level 38.
Yuzuru is predictable and alternates between Ice and Light shards, and having a demon drain his item spam immediately ends their turn. There's nobody that drains or repels Light at this point, but both Jack Frost and King Frost drain Ice and resist Light (though Jack Frost needs to be leveled up first to get the passive to Resist Light), Anahita drains Ice and nulls Light, and Forneus also drains Ice but you'd have to waste time switching him out since he's weak to Light.
If you have Xiezhai, the demon required for the Hare of Inaba sidequest, he can be useful since he nulls both Ice and Light. Only main problem is that he's weak against ailments and Yuzuru does sometimes throw in a Sleep Gem in there, but it shouldn't too much of a major problem.
Cironnup has good resistances for the fight and also has Cautious Cheer.
If you're having trouble outdamaging his healing, then debuff him with Rasetsu Feast instead of using Critical.
Anyways, I would like to add on to this great comment by mentioning that there is at least one guaranteed Magic Mirror in a chest near the end of Shinagawa before the Yuzuru fight so that's a key part of dealing with the fact that there are no Drain/Repel Light demons by that point, so you'll be able to have enough time to burst damage Yuzuru doing that.
Last edited by TheHeeHomie; Jul 24, 2024 @ 10:34pm
Andrew R Jul 25, 2024 @ 7:34am 
I'm not sure how I did it but I managed to do it. :P

Playing on casual mode so I'm hoping the final half of the game isn't SUPER DIFFICULT. lol
Togles Jul 25, 2024 @ 7:48am 
well about thaaaaaat
Blunette Jul 25, 2024 @ 8:50am 
Should.... Should we tell him he's not even halfway yet...? :SMT5V_Mothman:
Arisato Jul 25, 2024 @ 9:06am 
More like should we tell him the game isn't that difficult.
SKINLESSHEAD Jul 25, 2024 @ 9:43am 
Just google their name and look at their weaknesses or get to an appropriate level. You should be roughly the same level as the boss.
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