Should I do Demi-fiend and Shiva on my first run? [spoilers]

[stratzilla]

I've done everything else in my CoV law playthrough, my options of stuff to do is Shiva, Demi-fiend, or Lucifer. Maybe more content appears after the first two, but I know Lucifer will lead right into a complete save data.

I wanted to do a CoC true neutral run as a NG+, anything I'll miss out on if I wait to do them there instead?

I tried Shiva and I could get decently far with Cleopatra, Artemis, Nuwa, others at level 93 but I need to be stronger I think. I tried Demi-fiend once and I could only last a couple of turns, but I wasn't particularly trying.

[Sipher]

its up to you, you should do what gives you the most fun.
Beating Shiva gives you the option to fight a WAY stronger lucifer at the end of the game, beating demi-fiend gives you his OP essense but nothing story related at all. So while Shiva for example in CoC is required to reach the true neutral ending in CoC in CoV all those optional endgame-superbosses, are purely optional, but they will reward you with nice stuff of course, like beeing able to summon shiva, or Demis essense.

[Mofuji]

Beating Demi-fiend does unlock him as an guest character, but he only has 99 in every stat, if I'm remembering correctly, and your own character and demons can go way beyond that, even without the level 150 cap from Godborn mode.

[Haruspex]

If you beat Demi fiend you practically beat the entire game beside one super boss.
Because DF gives an essence that blocks everything lmao.

[Drake]

yea why ever not

[methoxetamine]

how do you have Nuwa before NG+?

[Sipher]

Originally posted by methoxetamine:

how do you have Nuwa before NG+?

in CoV you have to walk to modern tokyo in the 4th (final) act. after you have met him in Daat (near the entrance to the hindu lair.) where you can talk to a researcher who will give you information about yakumo, how he was at a child and also that a similar looking man was found in the school. When you move to school you will meet yakumo and have a nice talk, where he then says that he will protect tokyo from the shrine. When you then enter the shrine you have another talk with yakumo, where you then as a reward gain the ability to summon both "human" nuwa, aswell as snake Nuwa.

[Mofuji]

I unlocked both forms of Nuwa doing the true neutral path of Canon of Creation.

[PlantMurderer]

Shiva is surprisingly easy once you understand the trigger for Tandava, and which allies to eliminate on sight. No need for NG+, just hit his weakness hard and fast with the usual buff/debuff.

Demi-Fiend on the other hand has a lot of obscure rules going on in the background that are quite difficult to guess even if you're willing to dedicate some time testing the waters. While he's certainly manageable on a first Hard run without any cheese or shenanigans, the RNG of his ultimate move might push you to wait for a 2nd playthrough!

[n0000n]

Only if you want their skills.