Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance

Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance

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Azshric Aug 20, 2024 @ 6:57pm
What is the best demon for a Poison build
I'm level 60 and currently using Fafnir. Anyone better? Now or later? Thanks.
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Mayo Aug 20, 2024 @ 10:19pm 
If you're in Canon of Vengeance, Samael has the unique skill Deicidal Poison, which has a higher success rate than Toxic Spray, is AOE (toxic spray is single target) and has a special effect of applying Sukunda x 2. However Samael's innate (gives Samael and Qadistu pierce against ailment-affected enemies) might not be as good as Fafnir's Virus Carrier for your team.
Last edited by Mayo; Aug 20, 2024 @ 10:22pm
Azshric Aug 20, 2024 @ 11:19pm 
I am indeed doing a Canon of Vengeance run so I'll keep that in mind for late game. Thanks.
haplok Sep 6, 2024 @ 2:46am 
Isn't Loa best overall, with his almost double affliction chance?
Of course would need to Fuse him with better skills/level and maybe also feed some skill Essences.
kirbo Sep 6, 2024 @ 3:32am 
Originally posted by haplok:
Isn't Loa best overall, with his almost double affliction chance?
Of course would need to Fuse him with better skills/level and maybe also feed some skill Essences.
Loa just needs to be present in the active party for the innate to be taken advantage of, its great for any ailment demon. A lack of strong unique skill does kinda make it more of an enabler for things like soul divide, capitulate or decidal poison.
haplok Sep 6, 2024 @ 5:02am 
I suppose that makes sense, particularly from the end game point of view.

On the other hand, forces you to use 2 demon slots for afflictions. And before late game, valuable uniques aren't really there, so Loa can carry you for a long time. Plus you can teach him different status afflictions via Essences, to attack enemies - basing on their resistances and weaknesses.

Also I'm not sure if 100% Soul Divide, with its 50% Accuracy and likely no Potential boost to affliction rate (correct me if I'm wrong here), is actually hugely better then 65% Makajama plus up to +9 Potential bonus (given similar levels and Luck).
Terror Blade at least has awesome damage.
Last edited by haplok; Sep 6, 2024 @ 5:07am
Arifufu Sep 6, 2024 @ 5:51am 
i barely use ailment, but i build samael with his poison skill + poison master + poison adept, however i never bring him in actual battle but i already made the best skill set for him

another one can be vasuki, but fafnir has much better innate skill than vasuki
kirbo Sep 6, 2024 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by haplok:

Also I'm not sure if 100% Soul Divide, with its 50% Accuracy and likely no Potential boost to affliction rate (correct me if I'm wrong here), is actually hugely better then 65% Makajama plus up to +9 Potential bonus (given similar levels and Luck).
Terror Blade at least has awesome damage.
It's mostly as an example, that being said 100% base seal chance and 220(?) almighty isn't something to scoff at. Slap accuracy and almighty damage passives on that rider and use em as a one trick pony.
Arifufu Sep 15, 2024 @ 7:35am 
after do some re-fusion, i am pretty sure, Loa is the best ailment demon in the game, Taboo really useful to inflict ailment, pairing with Oma: Hit for higher chance, you can use Soul Divide or other ailment skills alongside with Loa. Higher luck from the caster is better
haplok Sep 16, 2024 @ 1:43am 
Thank you for testing.
Yeah, pretty amazing that Loa remains useful till the end of the game - due to his powerful unique innate ability.
Azshric Sep 17, 2024 @ 3:02pm 
Originally posted by Arifufu:
after do some re-fusion, i am pretty sure, Loa is the best ailment demon in the game, Taboo really useful to inflict ailment, pairing with Oma: Hit for higher chance, you can use Soul Divide or other ailment skills alongside with Loa. Higher luck from the caster is better

I wonder how large the increase from Taboo is. Has that been data mined? Soul Divide is pretty reliable already.
haplok Sep 17, 2024 @ 11:20pm 
It almost doubles the affliction/kill chance. x1,8 AFAIR.
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