Is the protagonist of the game a man or a woman?

[Pedro Pirulo]

I haven't been able to play it because of DENUVO but I have seen mods of supposed "female nobino" but I don't really know their gender

[RexEviL]

Young man

[SKINLESSHEAD]

İlk olarak El Sucio Dan tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak Ignosius tarafından gönderildi:

You... do know that's a mod, right?

İlk olarak SadPlatty© tarafından gönderildi:

So third party content is cannon now? Isn't there a mod in that same exact thread where it's a male version of the nude mod (which ironically is related to the original mod - also being a male one)?

Seems like you need to shut your PC off and go outside. Maybe me too - but at least I am not lying on Steam first :dxmicebear:

What makes me distrust this character as being a possible trans is why the modders decided to make a female version of this character and not others like Nathan Drake, Jocker (from people 5), Makoto (from people 3) among others... Automatically this tells me that this character has traits that make him attract the attention of male gamers, which is why I doubted if he was really a man (for now I consider him trans)

What a weird conclusion to come to when the character is a man and you've been told that.

[Pedro Pirulo]

İlk olarak SadPlatty© tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak El Sucio Dan tarafından gönderildi:

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Congratulations, you just won the Platinum medal for the Mental gymnastics this year.

Based on your own "logic", the puppet Pinocchio is trans because someone did make a mod for "Lies of P". Hell - based on just someone creating something making the character trans, every single character succumbs to "Rule 63" of the internet.

Actually - not only that, but Kratos from God of War is trans too now thanks to your logic (there is a mod out there for Lady Kratos - think the modder even got someone to re-voice all the dialogue).

It's because he is one of those androgynous characters that you don't know if they are men or women, which is common in anime, apart from the fact that long hair makes you lean even more towards trying to look like a woman since real men wear it short.

[SadPlatty©]

İlk olarak El Sucio Dan tarafından gönderildi:

It's because he is one of those androgynous characters that you don't know if they are men or women, which is common in anime, apart from the fact that long hair makes you lean even more towards trying to look like a woman since real men wear it short.

Are you saying that the long haired male characters in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (Abbachio, Diavolo, Akira, etc.) are not "real men"? That's one interesting statement; I would imagine a highlight for you then would be Jonathan's immaculate "female" disguise

Never-mind what this says about your taste in stuff like Dragon Ball, Berserk, Fist of the North Star, etc.

[Sckarton]

İlk olarak Hanzo tarafından gönderildi:

Young man

Young man, there's no need to feel down, I said
Young man, pick yourself off the ground, I said
Young man, 'cause you're in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy
Young man, there's a place you can go, I said
Young man, when you're short on your dough you can
Stay there and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time

[SkullDemon346]

male though I did name him after Buffy Summers from Buffy the Vampire Slayer because I would not put the last name Winchester as his last name.

[Its Almost Harvesting Season]

İlk olarak El Sucio Dan tarafından gönderildi:

İlk olarak SadPlatty© tarafından gönderildi:

Congratulations, you just won the Platinum medal for the Mental gymnastics this year.

Based on your own "logic", the puppet Pinocchio is trans because someone did make a mod for "Lies of P". Hell - based on just someone creating something making the character trans, every single character succumbs to "Rule 63" of the internet.

Actually - not only that, but Kratos from God of War is trans too now thanks to your logic (there is a mod out there for Lady Kratos - think the modder even got someone to re-voice all the dialogue).

It's because he is one of those androgynous characters that you don't know if they are men or women, which is common in anime, apart from the fact that long hair makes you lean even more towards trying to look like a woman since real men wear it short.

So by admission of your own logic, you are trans?

[Pedro Pirulo]

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İlk olarak El Sucio Dan tarafından gönderildi:

It's because he is one of those androgynous characters that you don't know if they are men or women, which is common in anime, apart from the fact that long hair makes you lean even more towards trying to look like a woman since real men wear it short.

So by admission of your own logic, you are trans?

Not because I'm very macho and wear short hair.

[Almea]

ok I didn't really care about your reading them as trans since I've seen some make that allegory with the transformation stuff, but the logic of "well they have long hair but real men have short hair, so they must be trans" is real weird

[Arisato]

A lot of men in the past used to have long hair and they were manlier then a lot of "men" these days.

[Marcelo Sampaio]

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So by admission of your own logic, you are trans?

Not because I'm very macho and wear short hair.

Usually when people say they are "macho" they are anything but.

[Anarch Bushey]

Nahobino is pretty androgynous and his skin tight god suit is flat on the front. It's pretty obvious that he's non-binary coded so women could find some appeal in the design as well (whatever is left since most of the community has abandoned bathing). It's a distinctly Japanese game though so it's pretty much reserved to subtext, a thing most Americans cannot pick up since George Bush r*ped our public schools.

The voice actor for ENG Nahobino is nonbinary. The character is androgynous. His alternative design when Aogami dies and his brother inherits you, looks like a e-girl femme- pretty intentionally.

Non-binary people are part of the trans community. QED the character is probably trans. Do what you will about it, no doubt there will be big sweaty onion tears coming from the internet about it.

[Ignosius]

İlk olarak Anarch Bushey tarafından gönderildi:

Nahobino is pretty androgynous and his skin tight god suit is flat on the front. It's pretty obvious that he's non-binary coded so women could find some appeal in the design as well (whatever is left since most of the community has abandoned bathing). It's a distinctly Japanese game though so it's pretty much reserved to subtext, a thing most Americans cannot pick up since George Bush r*ped our public schools.

The voice actor for ENG Nahobino is nonbinary. The character is androgynous. His alternative design when Aogami dies and his brother inherits you, looks like a e-girl femme- pretty intentionally.

Non-binary people are part of the trans community. QED the character is probably trans. Do what you will about it, no doubt there will be big sweaty onion tears coming from the internet about it.

And here I thought OP had the dumbest take, but you've really one-upped him.

[🎃 Claire 🎃]

İlk olarak Anarch Bushey tarafından gönderildi:

Nahobino is pretty androgynous and his skin tight god suit is flat on the front. It's pretty obvious that he's non-binary coded so women could find some appeal in the design as well (whatever is left since most of the community has abandoned bathing). It's a distinctly Japanese game though so it's pretty much reserved to subtext, a thing most Americans cannot pick up since George Bush r*ped our public schools.

The voice actor for ENG Nahobino is nonbinary. The character is androgynous. His alternative design when Aogami dies and his brother inherits you, looks like a e-girl femme- pretty intentionally.

Non-binary people are part of the trans community. QED the character is probably trans. Do what you will about it, no doubt there will be big sweaty onion tears coming from the internet about it.

Yeah I'm going to be honest, I just disagree outright. I'm a trans woman so it's not like I don't think it'd be cool for representative characters, but the Nahobino is a male, no nuance, pretty outright. Someone else in this topic brought up how the whole transformation thing can be interpreted in this way and I do have to agree, it can be interpreted this way even if I personally don't, but that does not in ANY way mean the intention is that. What we're discussing is not the interpretation BUT the intention. The Japanese voice actor is not nonbinary unlike Casey, and to be quite honest, that does matter more for this specific discussion. The character is most certainly androgynous, both in and out of his transformations, but appearance has nothing to do with gender, and I'm honestly surprised you think this based on your argument.

For why our character actually looks this way, I can't say, but I can say that we are fusing directly with Susanoo, who in classic woodblock art is commonly portrayed with very long hair. Our character has extremely pronounced pectorals, a sign of muscularity and general masculinity in men, and I don't really know other muscle groups to mention by name but I'd say he's pretty jacked (just slim) in general. I don't really think they would make him this toned if he was supposed to pass off as "not masculine". As for our fusion with Tsukuyomi, I'm going to be honest I kind of just flat out disagree with your statement. I see where you're coming from, "E-girl femme" or whatever, but I do just disagree. I see it more as "Edgy cyberpunk ninja." I don't feel like I really have to put more into this specific argument because you didn't really put anything besides the vibes you get in yours.

For why he looks the way he does outside of his fusions, I think it's important to note that our character almost never (never, if you don't count the few dialogue choices) speaks when he's simply a human. He's always portrayed as pretty reserved, and perhaps a little timid. I feel his design gets this across pretty well, and it's important that he has a design that emphasizes his personality due to his small screentime and lack of dialogue. Him being a bookworm, specifically poetry, is also important to this portrayal. I understand the implications of me saying his non-masculine design emphasizes that he's timid and reserved, but I'm keeping the argument.

Anyways I certainly don't think "The character is probably trans" as you stated. I personally think it's fine for a man to look this way.

[Almea]

I agree with everything ya said, but I'd just like to clarify that I just meant the transformation into a more confident form could be interpreted as an allegory, not as him actually being trans. Like he's pretty solidly referred to as male all throughout the story without any questioning, even if he could be considered somewhat feminine for a guy.