Godborn then reborn

[Silvaren]

If I complete game on godborn mode and then start NG+ choosing "ordinary" reborn option my nahobino lvl and all my demons will be reduced back to lower lvl cap 99 or they will stay at lvl 150 while entire playthrough on reborn will be the same as always?

[Togles]

i think the levelcap was a miracle, so if you dont keep the miracles you will have a cap at 99 i think

[Star Sage]

Level Cap raise is indeed a Miracle, so you will keep the level 150 and all stat points you buy for your party. You can buy all Balms and Incense types, as well as Sutras, so you can create a party of maxed out demons now.

Oddly, you can't get Health or Stamina stuff though, for HP and SP raising. That's weird. You still have to get those from quests or pickups.

[Togles]

Originally posted by Star Sage:

Level Cap raise is indeed a Miracle, so you will keep the level 150 and all stat points you buy for your party. You can buy all Balms and Incense types, as well as Sutras, so you can create a party of maxed out demons now.

Oddly, you can't get Health or Stamina stuff though, for HP and SP raising. That's weird. You still have to get those from quests or pickups.

well HP and MP balms are really not needed for nahobino, he maxes out both before reaching lvl 150. still weird tho you cant buy them

[Silvaren]

I mean godborn will rise level of all enemies to 150. After finishing godborn and choosing NG+ but different than godborn - specifically "reborn" option to keep levels, compendium, demons etc. - I will keep all that OP 150 lvl stuff while enemies will be from normal level range 1-99?

Or if I finish godborn at least once then any other NG+ with that save data will be forced to play godborn mode?

[Star Sage]

They will go back to normal levels, it only happens when in Godborn.

Also, analyze ALSO has a different list for Godborn and Normal mode, so you have to reencounter all enemies and bosses if you want to have the full list in Godborn.

[Silvaren]

I just wonder when should I play on godborn mode for 100% achievements. This requires all ending so 4 runs through CoC and 2 CoV, one godborn run. Everyone are talking it requires 6 playthroughs and then start 7 playthrough for all virtual battles.

[RexEviL]

Originally posted by Silvaren:

I mean godborn will rise level of all enemies to 150. After finishing godborn and choosing NG+ but different than godborn - specifically "reborn" option to keep levels, compendium, demons etc. - I will keep all that OP 150 lvl stuff while enemies will be from normal level range 1-99?

Or if I finish godborn at least once then any other NG+ with that save data will be forced to play godborn mode?

Yes, everything you unlocked carries over to Reborn I tested it.

Moral Transcendence miracle stays for both Reborn and Newborn(lvl 150 for you and demons). You keep your lvl 150 and keep your 150 demons while enemies stays at normal game level 99 max for enemies.

You can always change to Newborn, Reborn or Godborn but only at the start of your new cycle.

Note: Your unbought miracles disappear, make sure you buy all miracles before ng+ or you will have to absences again to unlock them again.

[Star Sage]

Originally posted by Silvaren:

I just wonder when should I play on godborn mode for 100% achievements. This requires all ending so 4 runs through CoC and 2 CoV, one godborn run. Everyone are talking it requires 6 playthroughs and then start 7 playthrough for all virtual battles.

You need to beat Godborn at least once, for the one that is tied to beating it, but nothing else. And it doesn't matter which ending you get from it.

Also, while 'Normal' Battles in the virtual trainer are upped in strength to 150, the Challenge Fights can't go higher than 999 in levels, so basically those max out a bit sooner than they do in normal mode.

[Silvaren]

Thank you all. I beat this game on switch when it came out and talked to myself that if it will ever launch on steam then I will totally play it for 100% completion.