Dagda Build?

[Ahriman]

Anyone know if Lost Hit is better in any way than the other severe phys attacks? Or does Dagda's unique skill just kinda suck?

[Hanzo]

Originally posted by Ahriman:

Anyone know if Lost Hit is better in any way than the other severe phys attacks? Or does Dagda's unique skill just kinda suck?

Lost hit is 340 pwr, 60% instakill for 65 MP which is highest power phys skill (second only to DF). So fighting normal enemies is much easier, even if they have high VIT stat. But damage formula is unknown and I've heard that it could be sqrt based, so multihit tend to end in highest damage. So you could give him
LOST HIT
NULL LIGHT (to cover weakness)
ENDURING SOUL (good to have)
HIGHT PHYS PLEROMA (for LH damage)
PHYS PLEROMA (good to have)
HELL THRUST (Ignores phys resistance, for enemies resistant to phys damage)
MURDEROUS GLEE (Crits are good)
NULL PHYS + NULL DARK (NULL TO ALL)

[Ahriman]

Originally posted by Hanzo:

Originally posted by Ahriman:

Anyone know if Lost Hit is better in any way than the other severe phys attacks? Or does Dagda's unique skill just kinda suck?

Lost hit is 340 pwr, 60% instakill for 65 MP which is highest power phys skill (second only to DF). So fighting normal enemies is much easier, even if they have high VIT stat. But damage formula is unknown and I've heard that it could be sqrt based, so multihit tend to end in highest damage. So you could give him
LOST HIT
NULL LIGHT (to cover weakness)
ENDURING SOUL (good to have)
HIGHT PHYS PLEROMA (for LH damage)
PHYS PLEROMA (good to have)
HELL THRUST (Ignores phys resistance, for enemies resistant to phys damage)
MURDEROUS GLEE (Crits are good)
NULL PHYS + NULL DARK (NULL TO ALL)

thanks, he does seem really nice against bosses that don't resist physical damage in that case

[RexEviL]

Originally posted by Ahriman:

Anyone know if Lost Hit is better in any way than the other severe phys attacks? Or does Dagda's unique skill just kinda suck?

Generally you want either 100% crit or full pierce
Figment Slash is 100% crit + Impaler's Animus for Pierce
Hell Thrust is Pierce + Critical gem for 100% crit.

Lost Hit is somewhat mid, because it doesn't pierce or 100% crit. You will need Impaler's
Animus + Omagatoki Critical. You lose the possibility of using Savage or Adversary Omagatoki against phy res.
He is just ok I guess.

[Topzchi]

You can build dadga couple of ways for the endgame, these are my builds, here we go:

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗟𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗛𝗶𝘁 Dagda Build #1

Lost Hit
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Phys Pleroma
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗛𝗲𝗹𝗹 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 Dagda Build #2

Hell Thrust
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Phys Pleroma
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗠𝗶𝘅𝗲𝗱 𝗟𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 Dagda Build #3

Lost Hit
Hell Thrust
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗕𝘂𝗹𝗸𝘆 𝗔𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗿 Dagda Build #4

Lost Hit
Impaler's Animus
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Reflect Phys
Repel Light
Repel Dark

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗶𝗸𝘂𝗴𝗲𝗹 Dagda Build #5

Freikugel
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Almighty Pleroma
High Almighty Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

[Ahriman]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

You can build dadga couple of ways for the endgame, these are my builds, here we go:

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗟𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗛𝗶𝘁 Dagda Build #1

Lost Hit
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Phys Pleroma
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗛𝗲𝗹𝗹 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 Dagda Build #2

Hell Thrust
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Phys Pleroma
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗠𝗶𝘅𝗲𝗱 𝗟𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 Dagda Build #3

Lost Hit
Hell Thrust
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗕𝘂𝗹𝗸𝘆 𝗔𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗿 Dagda Build #4

Lost Hit
Impaler's Animus
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Reflect Phys
Repel Light
Repel Dark

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗶𝗸𝘂𝗴𝗲𝗹 Dagda Build #5

Freikugel
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Almighty Pleroma
High Almighty Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

your first build is more or less what i went with, just beat masakado with it

[Topzchi]

Originally posted by Ahriman:

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

You can build dadga couple of ways for the endgame, these are my builds, here we go:

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗟𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗛𝗶𝘁 Dagda Build #1

Lost Hit
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Phys Pleroma
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗛𝗲𝗹𝗹 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 Dagda Build #2

Hell Thrust
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Phys Pleroma
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗠𝗶𝘅𝗲𝗱 𝗟𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 Dagda Build #3

Lost Hit
Hell Thrust
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗕𝘂𝗹𝗸𝘆 𝗔𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗿 Dagda Build #4

Lost Hit
Impaler's Animus
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Reflect Phys
Repel Light
Repel Dark

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗶𝗸𝘂𝗴𝗲𝗹 Dagda Build #5

Freikugel
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Almighty Pleroma
High Almighty Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

your first build is more or less what i went with, just beat masakado with it

nice going! its so great that the SMT V did get definitive pc release.

[K9ofChaos]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

You can build dadga couple of ways for the endgame, these are my builds, here we go:

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗟𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗛𝗶𝘁 Dagda Build #1

Lost Hit
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Phys Pleroma
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗛𝗲𝗹𝗹 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 Dagda Build #2

Hell Thrust
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Phys Pleroma
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗠𝗶𝘅𝗲𝗱 𝗟𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 Dagda Build #3

Lost Hit
Hell Thrust
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗕𝘂𝗹𝗸𝘆 𝗔𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗿 Dagda Build #4

Lost Hit
Impaler's Animus
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Reflect Phys
Repel Light
Repel Dark

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗶𝗸𝘂𝗴𝗲𝗹 Dagda Build #5

Freikugel
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Almighty Pleroma
High Almighty Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

I might go with your first build for Dagda like Ahriman did as well. Especially if it can be useful against Masakado.

Originally posted by Ahriman:

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

You can build dadga couple of ways for the endgame, these are my builds, here we go:

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗟𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗛𝗶𝘁 Dagda Build #1

Lost Hit
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Phys Pleroma
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗛𝗲𝗹𝗹 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 Dagda Build #2

Hell Thrust
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Phys Pleroma
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗠𝗶𝘅𝗲𝗱 𝗟𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 Dagda Build #3

Lost Hit
Hell Thrust
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗕𝘂𝗹𝗸𝘆 𝗔𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗿 Dagda Build #4

Lost Hit
Impaler's Animus
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Reflect Phys
Repel Light
Repel Dark

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗶𝗸𝘂𝗴𝗲𝗹 Dagda Build #5

Freikugel
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Almighty Pleroma
High Almighty Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

your first build is more or less what i went with, just beat masakado with it

If you don't mind me asking, what other demon builds did you use for the Masakado boss fight besides Dagda abd obviously the Nahobino whose required by default? What skills did you give to your Nahobino and the two other demons in your party?

[Ahriman]

Originally posted by K9ofChaos:

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

You can build dadga couple of ways for the endgame, these are my builds, here we go:

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗟𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗛𝗶𝘁 Dagda Build #1

Lost Hit
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Phys Pleroma
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗛𝗲𝗹𝗹 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 Dagda Build #2

Hell Thrust
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Phys Pleroma
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗠𝗶𝘅𝗲𝗱 𝗟𝗼𝘀𝘁 𝗧𝗵𝗿𝘂𝘀𝘁 Dagda Build #3

Lost Hit
Hell Thrust
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

𝗕𝘂𝗹𝗸𝘆 𝗔𝘁𝘁𝗮𝗰𝗸𝗲𝗿 Dagda Build #4

Lost Hit
Impaler's Animus
High Phys Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Reflect Phys
Repel Light
Repel Dark

𝗖𝗿𝗶𝘁 𝗦𝗽𝗮𝗺 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗶𝗸𝘂𝗴𝗲𝗹 Dagda Build #5

Freikugel
Critical Aura
Critical Zealot
Almighty Pleroma
High Almighty Pleroma
Enduring Soul
Abyssal Mask
Null Light

I might go with your first build for Dagda like Ahriman did as well. Especially if it can be useful against Masakado.

Originally posted by Ahriman:

your first build is more or less what i went with, just beat masakado with it

If you don't mind me asking, what other demon builds did you use for the Masakado boss fight besides Dagda abd obviously the Nahobino whose required by default? What skills did you give to your Nahobino and the two other demons in your party?

It was a while ago so I honestly don't remember, I know I had demeter too and I remember I got quite lucky because Dagda managed to make Masakado fall asleep with Lost Hit when I was about to get wiped so that gave me a bunch of time to reset and heal up. iirc the trick is to bring demons that resist as many elements as possible instead of nullifying them, then Masakado won't be going for freikugel as much and won't get free press turns from crits. I might be remembering wrong though, it was almost a year ago

[K9ofChaos]

Originally posted by Ahriman:

Originally posted by K9ofChaos:

I might go with your first build for Dagda like Ahriman did as well. Especially if it can be useful against Masakado.





If you don't mind me asking, what other demon builds did you use for the Masakado boss fight besides Dagda abd obviously the Nahobino whose required by default? What skills did you give to your Nahobino and the two other demons in your party?

It was a while ago so I honestly don't remember, I know I had demeter too and I remember I got quite lucky because Dagda managed to make Masakado fall asleep with Lost Hit when I was about to get wiped so that gave me a bunch of time to reset and heal up. iirc the trick is to bring demons that resist as many elements as possible instead of nullifying them, then Masakado won't be going for freikugel as much and won't get free press turns from crits. I might be remembering wrong though, it was almost a year ago

Okay, so Dagda is a definite maybe/yes considering his resistances to pretty much everything except light. In regards to healers, which one is better (at least for the Masakado boss), Demeter or Konohana Sakuya? I ask because I'm not sure if you yourself used the DLC or not. I have a Demeter that can block Fire, Force, Light and Dark, can resist status ailments. The rest does normal damage.

I'd say that's a better resistance pool than my current Konohana, who can Repel Fire, Resist Elec plus Status Ailments and Block Force. Wouldn't you agree?

Also, if you're not sure how to respond, that's fine. Especially since it's been a while for you. I'm sure somebody might offer their two cents given my recent forum activity.

[Arifufu]

Dagda only useful for Dana's Wisdom