Gaea's Rage does crazy damage

[Sperbs]

I'm playing on hard and trying to wrap me head around the demi-fiend fight, slowly, but I'm noticing that his move Gaea's Rage does a ridiculous amount of damage like -26405 or something nuts. And it pierces?? What are you supposed to do against that? I feel like I'm missing something

[Fox Tenson]

You need to kill one of his demons before three-four rounds are up or he'll use that. Its a bit of a dps check in a way. The special dodge everything skill can dodge it, but that doesn't help if he spams it again after. Every time he summons a new demon to the field the counter on gaea rage resets.

[Sperbs]

Originally posted by Fox Tenson:

You need to kill one of his demons before three-four rounds are up or he'll use that. Its a bit of a dps check in a way. The special dodge everything skill can dodge it, but that doesn't help if he spams it again after. Every time he summons a new demon to the field the counter on gaea rage resets.

Thanks! Woulda took me forever to figure that out. Follow-up question then: does he ever run out of demons?

[Aragorness]

Originally posted by Sperbs:

Originally posted by Fox Tenson:

You need to kill one of his demons before three-four rounds are up or he'll use that. Its a bit of a dps check in a way. The special dodge everything skill can dodge it, but that doesn't help if he spams it again after. Every time he summons a new demon to the field the counter on gaea rage resets.

Thanks! Woulda took me forever to figure that out. Follow-up question then: does he ever run out of demons?

He does when he dies.

[TimurSokol]

He also uses mediarahan when he's half HP so have fun

[Talon Rose]

Originally posted by TimurSokol:

He also uses mediarahan when he's half HP so have fun :SMT5V_Decarabia:

Unless you know where half his health is and try your best to inflict Seal (AKA MUTE) on him. It wears off quick, but if you can silence him the exact turn he wants to self-heal, he just doesn't. It's kind of a big help lol.

[TimurSokol]

Originally posted by Talon Rose:

Originally posted by TimurSokol:

He also uses mediarahan when he's half HP so have fun

Unless you know where half his health is and try your best to inflict Seal (AKA MUTE) on him. It wears off quick, but if you can silence him the exact turn he wants to self-heal, he just doesn't. It's kind of a big help lol.

In the original SMTV I just used a strategy to kill him in one turn using physical skills

[Darius]

the rage is the most idiotic concept ever born, really want to unistall the game, because the dev force you to play the only cheese strategy, remove 1 enemy unit, reaaally bad idea, chatic will is another rng idiotic, artificial difficulty at the peak, at this point cheese 4 cheese switch easy and chaeat 999 balsam/sutra/grimoire etc

[Arifufu]

seal him away, black rider's seal + Loa in the field + oma: hit + high luck stats

seal can stop all: mediarahan, gaea rage, or chaotic will

[ebolaisamongus]

Bosses like Demi Fiend kind of suck in that regard because the only way you can know about how Gaea's Rage triggers is by going online or being lucky by discovering it after hours of experimenting.

Adding to what was said, He also uses Gaea's Rage if you use Tetrakarn, Makarakarn, Attack Mirror, or Magic Mirror. I guess its a way for the game to "punish you" for using those items. Oddly enough, having reflect affinities doesn't trigger Gaea's Rage.

[Darius]

after countless try i beat shiva but this little DF scum keep go chatotic/rage every turn even if i kill his fck teams, is highly unfair -

infinite demons rotation
infinite mana
immense hp
2 move rng that lead to game over ( the fck keep do that move even with one demons down)

No weakness
Immense damage
First start at 99 agility (tested)
Start fight with a nuke

I have a question for you all, i played and beated all the dark eon and richter in ffx, i've never have this low fun and this much hate for a game, i know, i can cheese him with swap etc

But this is fun for you? because i am cheat the win and wipe all his team with cheat engine, a chaotic will, but from nahobino

[Darius]

I beat it, geez, sadly from difficult to easy

[ebolaisamongus]

Originally posted by Darius:

after countless try i beat shiva but this little DF scum keep go chatotic/rage every turn even if i kill his fck teams, is highly unfair -

infinite demons rotation
infinite mana
immense hp
2 move rng that lead to game over ( the fck keep do that move even with one demons down)

No weakness
Immense damage
First start at 99 agility (tested)
Start fight with a nuke

I have a question for you all, i played and beated all the dark eon and richter in ffx, i've never have this low fun and this much hate for a game, i know, i can cheese him with swap etc

But this is fun for you? because i am cheat the win and wipe all his team with cheat engine, a chaotic will, but from nahobino

The issue you are facing is a stats numbers one. Either you have too little offensive orv vitality or both. You could address this by getting sutras and incenses for stats and proficiency, get the miracle that lets your demons get over 99 for stats, or set the difficulty lower. All of these things help with stat scaling rebalance. I know people make difficulty part of their personality, but in this game, like many others, its just a "you do less damage, you take more damage".

What I recommend is get a couple more playthroughs in to unlock more demons and resources. More demons means you have more fire power and rely less on MP recovery. More resources means you be able to correct for stat scaling. If possible, beat and get Masakado first because his unique move is really good against Demi Fiend and his party since its almighty with high crit damage.

[DelSapri]

Originally posted by Darius:

But this is fun for you? because i am cheat the win and wipe all his team with cheat engine, a chaotic will, but from nahobino

In general? Yes.
This is an example of a boss that has its own rhythm, and it's also completely optional for those who want to try it as an extra challenge.
Think of it like an Ultima Weapon in the old FF's, or something similar: a challenge for those who love combat mechanics and want to prove themselves to the extreme.
And as such, it comes with specific mechanics: you have a dps check flow (kill at least one of the enemies, before it starts dispatching your team to oblivion, check to prevent it from healing completely).
These are challenges focused not on the average player, or designed to hinder the main game, but to stimulate those who like to dig deep into the system and want something different.

[Darius]

After countless try i beat him on normal, but it was a pain

yeah i beat in ffx Omega Weapon, Der Richter and all the dark eons i think demifiend is FAR FAR more strong

[DelSapri]

SMT is a series famous for the hard fights.
This game is not one of the most challengings, try some of the devil survivors, and some main line fights are really challenging.