Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance

Shin Megami Tensei V: Vengeance

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Is this game censored or not?
So here’s the story am someone who likes games as pure as possible regardless of my personal feelings and because of that I try to do a bunch of research on if a game I want to buy is censored or not so I know if it’s worth my money usually if it is censored I wait for a sale of the game when a mod comes out for it to uncensored it but with this game am getting conflicting information.

For example someone said something about the camera being censored (link here https://steamcommunity.com/app/1875830/discussions/0/6513974436469111248/) I know that people in there were saying that it was a troll but I can’t find anything that can debunk it or proof it (important note I don’t want to be spoiled on the game so I haven’t looked up gameplay I know it’s stupid but I like to go into a game as close to blind as possible but with enough Information to make a good purchase for myself aka only trailers) but if it’s true about what the person is saying in the post then is it actually a glitch or it is actually censorship or something else I’m so confused,

but on the other hand people are also saying the opposite (link here https://steamcommunity.com/app/1875830/discussions/0/4344366233048721170/) am so lost on if this game is or isn’t censored but I do know people may a different version of what censorship can be so I guess here’s what mine is below.

“Censorship is someone who is not the creator turning something that was originally purely the creator vision into something it’s not for either personal feelings or something else for example look at Fire Emblem Engage’s horrible translation or taking out something that the creator originally intended to have in there for personal feelings or something else for example Fire Emblem Fates’s removing the petting mode.”

I hope this helps explain what am trying to figure out because I’ve been so confused since this game came out.
Last edited by Kinda of a Shy Guy; Jun 26, 2024 @ 10:31pm
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The Grumbleskull Jun 26, 2024 @ 10:31pm 
Free cam absolutely got a draw distance nerf when it got ported to PC. There's a pretty popular and easy to install mod to fix it, but it's currently a WIP getting through the compendium apparently.
https://gamebanana.com/mods/521914

I've got some friends who played on switch who both agree that for some reason your ability to render the female demons up close got reduced by a significant margin. You can even see the difference for yourself if you just try to approach them and then alternate back and forth from a male demon.
The difference is night and day, but it also really doesn't change much when it comes to actual gameplay, You have to go out of your way to zoom in on demons with free cam in the first place. As far as I know, all the fanservice animations and closeups are still present and unaltered.
Kinda of a Shy Guy Jun 26, 2024 @ 10:37pm 
Ok maybe a stupid question but is free cam a dev mode only thing or is that possible for anyone without coding experience to do for example on consoles without jailbreaking it?
The Grumbleskull Jun 26, 2024 @ 10:41pm 
Originally posted by Kinda of a Shy Guy:
Ok maybe a stupid question but is free cam a dev mode only thing or is that possible for anyone without coding experience to do for example on consoles without jailbreaking it?

Free cam is a built-in feature limited to demon haunts.
Kinda of a Shy Guy Jun 26, 2024 @ 10:51pm 
Originally posted by The GrumbleSkull:
Originally posted by Kinda of a Shy Guy:
Ok maybe a stupid question but is free cam a dev mode only thing or is that possible for anyone without coding experience to do for example on consoles without jailbreaking it?

Free cam is a built-in feature limited to demon haunts.

Thank you for the information and your help but I have one more question I guess would the draw distance nerf be considered censorship I’m personally leaning towards maybe it’s a glitch of this game being remastered but it could be my hopefully thinking lol!
The Grumbleskull Jun 26, 2024 @ 10:57pm 
Originally posted by Kinda of a Shy Guy:
Originally posted by The GrumbleSkull:

Free cam is a built-in feature limited to demon haunts.

Thank you for the information and your help but I have one more question I guess would the draw distance nerf be considered censorship I’m personally leaning towards maybe it’s a glitch of this game being remastered but it could be my hopefully thinking lol!

From my point of view it's definitely intentional censorship but it's to the most meaningless degree it's pretty petty to heavily consider it when purchasing or reviewing. Just the fact that you can see the obvious difference between male and female demon ranges is enough to prove that it's not just a matter of port or remaster, but selective decision.
If I were going off your provided definition of censorship in the OP then I'd say no, it doesn't qualify. The artistic intent, presentation and gameplay haven't been impacted. They just added camera restraints to an optional free cam feature meant for screenshots.
They most likely just didn't want a bunch of upskirts in the community screenshots page when you stop to think about it.
Originally posted by The GrumbleSkull:
Originally posted by Kinda of a Shy Guy:

Thank you for the information and your help but I have one more question I guess would the draw distance nerf be considered censorship I’m personally leaning towards maybe it’s a glitch of this game being remastered but it could be my hopefully thinking lol!

From my point of view it's definitely intentional censorship but it's to the most meaningless degree it's pretty petty to heavily consider it when purchasing or reviewing. Just the fact that you can see the obvious difference between male and female demon ranges is enough to prove that it's not just a matter of port or remaster, but selective decision.
If I were going off your provided definition of censorship in the OP then I'd say no, it doesn't qualify. The artistic intent, presentation and gameplay haven't been impacted. They just added camera restraints to an optional free cam feature meant for screenshots.
They most likely just didn't want a bunch of upskirts in the community screenshots page when you stop to think about it.

Thank you for sharing your perspective.

From what you've explained, it does seem like the changes are quite specific and targeted, which supports my idea that there might be intentional decisions behind these alterations. However, since the core gameplay and artistic intent remain unchanged, it arguably falls short of full-fledged censorship by the provided definition given.

While these modifications might not affect gameplay directly, they can still influence the overall experience, particularly for those who value the freedom of the free cam feature which can add for those that may want it. It's good to know that there's a mod available to address some of these issues, even if it's still a work in progress.

I appreciate the detailed explanation and the link to the mod. It helps me better understand the nature of these changes and their impact on the game experience.

But as for me and my decision I will probably buy this game off of Humble Bundle and mod it for peace mind. Hopefully others can find this thread helpful as well and not end up as confused as I was. Thank you for your help and I hope you have a great day.
Hinamina Jun 27, 2024 @ 10:48am 
It is very interesting that these issues with the camera were not existent when the game was still on the switch but the moment it got a multiplat release, along with a release on the Snoystation, suddenly this camera stuff was introduced. There are other anime games that have either the exact same camera censorship or similar ones. The goal of these types of censorships is to prevent the player to look up female characters skirts or get too close to them in general. These kinds of censorships were introduced right after Snoy began their censorship spree regarding anything anime, from Blue Reflection up to gacha games like Honkai Star Rail.

While SMTVV has ecchi content, it is a completely different matter if the player can be allowed to be a pervert. Do i support this type of censorship? Hell no. Its not a big deal and never was. If you are on the fence of buying the game because of this, i would advise to still buy it and install some mods that fix this issue. To conclude, yes, it is censorship. And anyone that says otherwise is just uninformed and talks out of their slit.
SadPlatty© Jun 27, 2024 @ 11:47am 
Originally posted by ヒナタちゃん:
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I don't know why this was the one that reminded me; but it's funny they did that with the camera for female demons, but then Preta kept his "package" (in addition to Mara staying the same and some other generic examples).

It's slightly one-sided whatever people want to call it if not censorship lol
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