How this differ from Persona?

[Shin_Hell]

If I'm not mistaken, I read in the past that Persona is a spinoff of this series called Shin Megami Tensei, is that right?

If that's right, considering that up until now I've only played one Persona and haven't played any Shin Megami Tensei, could you tell me what changes? Are the fights different? How? Does it change the gameplay? Is there still the Dating Sim component?

And for the cast of the game, it's not clear from the cover, who are the protagonists of this story? And how many protagonists are there in this game?

Thanks

[Argonisgema]

There is no dating sim component. The game is more focused on gameplay with the story of the games taking a more grand scale and not just around a school.
unlike persona that has characters that you can't customize their personas, you can fight and negotiate with real demons and they can join your party.
so its hope and whatever demon you can get on your team which make your set up very custamizable.

[Home]

The story is not that great and its more gameplay focused. No dating sim or anything like that. No social connections either. It's turn based and functions almost exactly the same as Persona

[Arisato]

SMT focus more on the gameplay, making friend with demons to kill gods and your human friends.

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by Argonisgema:

There is no dating sim component. The game is more focused on gameplay with the story of the games taking a more grand scale and not just around a school.
unlike persona that has characters that you can't customize their personas, you can fight and negotiate with real demons and they can join your party.
so its hope and whatever demon you can get on your team which make your set up very custamizable.

there WAS no dating sim component, rest assured you can now date your demon waifus in the new demon haunt feature. Although more simplistic than the social links in persona, getting along with your demons directly translates to more power for THEM, so it makes even more sense than social links that increased powers of all demon of that arcana.

[pepushe]

Originally posted by Shin_Hell:

If I'm not mistaken, I read in the past that Persona is a spinoff of this series called Shin Megami Tensei, is that right?

If that's right, considering that up until now I've only played one Persona and haven't played any Shin Megami Tensei, could you tell me what changes? Are the fights different? How? Does it change the gameplay? Is there still the Dating Sim component?

And for the cast of the game, it's not clear from the cover, who are the protagonists of this story? And how many protagonists are there in this game?

Thanks

its simply a better game, its 90% gameplay instead of 40% like in persona games.

[Argonisgema]

Originally posted by mimizukari:

Originally posted by Argonisgema:

There is no dating sim component. The game is more focused on gameplay with the story of the games taking a more grand scale and not just around a school.
unlike persona that has characters that you can't customize their personas, you can fight and negotiate with real demons and they can join your party.
so its hope and whatever demon you can get on your team which make your set up very custamizable.

there WAS no dating sim component, rest assured you can now date your demon waifus in the new demon haunt feature. Although more simplistic than the social links in persona, getting along with your demons directly translates to more power for THEM, so it makes even more sense than social links that increased powers of all demon of that arcana.

I don't count them being [motivated] as a dating sim mechanic.

[mimizukari]

Originally posted by Argonisgema:

Originally posted by mimizukari:

there WAS no dating sim component, rest assured you can now date your demon waifus in the new demon haunt feature. Although more simplistic than the social links in persona, getting along with your demons directly translates to more power for THEM, so it makes even more sense than social links that increased powers of all demon of that arcana.

I don't count them being [motivated] as a dating sim mechanic.

simp for them with gifts, the dialogs they have, etc. plenty of demons want more than a simply leader-ally relationship if you go deep in their dialog trees. more than enough for a dating sim mechanic for a game about demons. Even early on if you get a critical motivation upgrade with nekomata you'll start to see things like that.

[Frostea]

Originally posted by Home:

The story is not that great and its more gameplay focused. No dating sim or anything like that. No social connections either. It's turn based and functions almost exactly the same as Persona

Hot take if you’re saying the new vengeance story isn’t that great. Because it’s easily the best part about this version.

[Irx]

All SMT games have exactly the same story, so I'm not really sure you can say it even has a story to begin with. It's just an excuse for grinding anyway.

[nephalim]

There are characters with personalities and major stories with themes like bullying and revenge... there is one part fairly early game that felt right out of a Persona game

[Marcelo Sampaio]

Not having that school life gameplay from Persona 3, 4 and 5 already makes SMT better for me. :p

Anyway, to make things simpler, in SMT you usually have the main character and the rest of your party is filled with demons.

You can only have have 4 party members active, BUT you can, at any time in combat, replace any of the demons with characters on "the back row". This is KEY to make the games easier, since SMT games are usually quite challenging.

[Overeagerdragon]

Originally posted by Marcelo Sampaio:

Not having that school life gameplay from Persona 3, 4 and 5 already makes SMT better for me. :p

Anyway, to make things simpler, in SMT you usually have the main character and the rest of your party is filled with demons.

You can only have have 4 party members active, BUT you can, at any time in combat, replace any of the demons with characters on "the back row". This is KEY to make the games easier, since SMT games are usually quite challenging.

Except for the vengence storyline where you get Yoko for most of the run... also; Yoko deffo moree usefull partymember over tao ngl

[nephalim]

The combat is different too
- No knockdowns
- No all out attacks
- Press turns but with a stock system, fixed turn order is customizable
- Turns can be skipped and stocked
- Buffs/Debuffs are stackable 2 levels
- No swappable Personas, all 3 other slots hot swappable with demons (aka playable Personas) and human guest characters. (Main character's skills are learnable for consumable "essences,)
- Magatsuhi skills (think limit breaks)
- Limited inventory of each item discourages item hoarding, item usage is much more expected.
- physical special attacks use mp not hp

[Kate_Unknown]

Originally posted by Irx:

All SMT games have exactly the same story, so I'm not really sure you can say it even has a story to begin with. It's just an excuse for grinding anyway.

If you have to grind to win you're playing wrong. Beating bosses is about strategizing, not getting big numbers.

[The Seraph of Tomorrow]

Originally posted by mimizukari:

there WAS no dating sim component, rest assured you can now date your demon waifus in the new demon haunt feature.

There is no*

The haunt feature is just giving them gifts to get stat buffs and maybe hear a line of dialogue related to the creature or the zone you are in.