Kinda pricey, eh?

[Bucherebis]

Was expecting a lower price.

[Fyuun]

Originally posted by Bucherebis:

Was expecting a lower price.

You have ways to save money
-buy from official resellers with a price cut for the day one edition
-play on GamePass
-wait for a huge discount in a few years

Atlus will always "overprice" their games, because most Atlus games are niche. For Atlus there would be not a huge change in sales, if they reduce the price. People who love Atlus games will buy them, as long as the price isn't too much, and people who want to buy it, but don't have the money, should rather invest their time in learning and finding a high paying job than wasting their time with playing games.

[Panky..]

Originally posted by Fyuun:

Originally posted by Bucherebis:

Was expecting a lower price.

You have ways to save money
-buy from official resellers with a price cut for the day one edition
-play on GamePass
-wait for a huge discount in a few years

Atlus will always "overprice" their games, because most Atlus games are niche. For Atlus there would be not a huge change in sales, if they reduce the price. People who love Atlus games will buy them, as long as the price isn't too much, and people who want to buy it, but don't have the money, should rather invest their time in learning and finding a high paying job than wasting their time with playing games.

Niche games are at a higher risk of not selling well if the entry price point is not appealing, so that logic is backward minded and outdated. It's why you see many indies and AA games following Valve's pricing matrix because it allows for more people to be interested based on the price point alone.

You tell me what is more? 100k copies sold at $70 and a lack of regional pricing (which means that most people in those second/third world regions won't even consider it), or 500k copies sold at $40 and appropriate regional pricing? It doesn't help that this is a timed exclusive, which PC gamers as a whole unit hate seeing priced at full/Day 1 price, no matter how flashy they make the re-release.

Also, why is it that people always fall back on "broke", "get a better paying job" etc. without understanding country by country economic and wage scenarios? A self-entitled first world mentality.

[ez game ez life]

You get well over 100 hours of playtime with this game.
If you don't feel like playing the game, don't buy it.

[Panky..]

Originally posted by ez game ez life:

You get well over 100 hours of playtime with this game.
If you don't feel like playing the game, don't buy it.

Playing hours doesn't equate to quality alone. That's a logical fallacy, and once again, ignores the crux of the issue that this thread is about.

[Apple.Seed]

Not paying $60 for a game 3 years old, should of been around $20 or $40 because the dlc. Atlus gets greedy at times.

[M1lh0u53]

It's $99.95AUD, yup it's pricey.
I'll probably get it though because it looks interesting.
Just remember you can always refund under 2 hours played.

[Stoibs]

Originally posted by M1lh0u53:

It's $99.95AUD, yup it's pricey.
I'll probably get it though because it looks interesting.
Just remember you can always refund under 2 hours played.

It's closer to 80 at Gamebillet, I think they're an official partner of Atlus or something (I remember seeing them listed on the official Soul Hackers 2 website) and its where I've picked up most of these Atlus/Persona games since they tend to be the cheapest of all the stores.

[Sabin Stargem]

I would have bought it during the Christmas discount season. Unfortunately, SMT V has DRM, which I consider a no-sale. That sucks, I want to just buy my games and play without worrying about problems cropping up.

Hopefully there will be no DRM in four or five years.

[Unknownsurfin]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡󠀡󠀡:

Originally posted by Mkilbride:

What? This isn't a new game though.

Except it is, at least for most people on PC.
I have a Switch but I never bought it for 2 reasons.

1. I only play exclusives on the Switch and SMTV was in the Nividia leak.
2. I know Atlus's business practices with re-releasing enhanced versions of games due to P3FES, P4G and P5R in the past.

So yes, for a lot of people on Steam including myself, this is technically a new game while also being the definitive version of it as well.

$60 is perfectly fine even for a definitive re-release compared to the garbage that Western developers push out nowadays.

Hell, I think I heard SMT5's original story was kinda crap and even then I'd still rather pay $60 for a definitive re-release port that's new to me than some $70 Western game.

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If someone already played SMT5 in the past then sure I can understand their feeling, but that's their problem just like how me buying a PSTV back in early 2020 to finally play P4G and beating it only for P4G to get a shadow-announcement out of nowhere for PC three months after I beat it, never again will I fall victim to that.

It is not a new game its a 3 year old game with duck tape and 2 hours of content additions. Anyone claiming otherwise is unreasonable and incoherent.

[Stoibs]

So far I've now heard between 2 and 80 hours of new content

[DewPrism]

60 bucks for a brand new game? Why would you expect anything different? Vengeance is going to have tons of more content. It's going to completely change the entire game, even the combat system is being refined.

[Unknownsurfin]

Originally posted by Forged Fate:

60 bucks for a brand new game? Why would you expect anything different? Vengeance is going to have tons of more content. It's going to completely change the entire game, even the combat system is being refined.

Its a 3 year old game and is not new and claiming otherwise is embarassing.
No, it will not and it does not. It adds a slightly more choas friendly story as a small optional addition with some band aids on the horrific story with a few more cutscenes with "80 hours" Being pulled right from thin air complete and utter propoganda and nonesense. This is not like Royal, its a minor story addition which does not redefine the game outside of being more route friendly in one area.

[Unknownsurfin]

Originally posted by Stoibs:

So far I've now heard between 2 and 80 hours of new content :lunar2020thinkingtiger:

One is actuality (2 Hours) and the other is the manfacture claim (80 HOURS) (Which never comes even a fraction of close to being player playtime but rather how they define playtime which is as long as possible barley engaged classification) Somebody could take years to beat the game over hundreds of hours or an hour depending on how they play. For real average people it ends up being a fraction of what they claim every single time.

[Stoibs]

Originally posted by arcsurfin:

Originally posted by Stoibs:

So far I've now heard between 2 and 80 hours of new content

One is actuality (2 Hours) and the other is the manfacture claim (80 HOURS) (Which never comes even a fraction of close to being player playtime but rather how they define playtime which is as long as possible barley engaged classification) Somebody could take years to beat the game over hundreds of hours or an hour depending on how they play. For real average people it ends up being a fraction of what they claim every single time.

Eh, I mean opposite for me generally.
I don't think I've seen a listed playtime on HowLongToBeat that was accurate for me at all when it comes to RPG games.

My P5R playthrough was about 200hrs on the dot for instance, about 60hrs more than what that website reckons.
Same with some other similar games like Soul Hackers 2 or Infinite Wealth etc.
I'm currently 80+hrs in Persona 3R and only 3/4 of the way up the tower.
I guess these estimates don't take into account those of us who actually like to grind while listening to podcasts ;)

According to the same site, it seems like the base SMTV game was somewhere between 50 and 100hrs (Which probably means +50% for me..) so I don't see what the problem is.

At the end of the day I'm (re)playing for a proper actual framerate first and foremost since I could never finish the Switch release, kept getting a headache from the performance :/
Whatever extra content there is with this new version is icing on the cake.

[Giorno]

This comes with the complete original game + also an entirely new reworked game with new areas, characters, story paths, cutscenes, missions, songs, combat system, and demons. It also comes with all DLC from the original I'm pretty sure.

If you're one of those people that has to 100% a game this easily has over 200+ hours worth of content. A normal playthrough of the original was anywhere between 60-120 hours depending on difficulty and familarity with the series.

I honestly do not mind paying full price for this because it was held back by the switch in every regard. And you are basically getting a game ontop of a game. It would be like if Atlus bundled the original P5 alongside Royal so you could play through both and see the differences.