Haven't played SMTV, hope to see some LGBT+ representation

[Peace Walker]

Atlus is slowly becoming better with their handling of LGBT matters (changing the terrible scenes in P5R and P3R) I'm hoping this game is also respectful, and here's to hoping Metaphor, Persona 6, and all future Atlus titles (featuring social sim elements) include same sex romance options :)

[Merik Lobo]

This thread just needs to be buried. While I don't agree with the extreme rhetoric of that first commenter, I also can't fathom why anyone would need or care enough to want LGBT+ representation in their demon summoning game. That kind of thing would just take away from the story. This isn't Persona, its not focused on interpersonal relationships in the same way whatsoever.

[kona]

idk, like even as someone who is on the LGBT+ spectrum, not every game or movie or anime or whatever needs to have LGBT+ representation. I think it would be pretty distracting if like in my post-apocalyptic jrpg, they suddenly stop the main story to insert a scene of not Raidou explaining to the audience that the LGBT+ community is rich in sensibility, has excellent taste, and is full of talented, artistic people *cough* AI: The Somnium Files. *cough* Also, like Atlus more questionable representations of LGBT+ like those gay guys in OG P5 or that trans person in P3, like I personally never found those scenes offensive, if only because they weren't necessarily like "These people are bad solely because of their sexual preference or orientation" or whatever. But I interpret those scenes moreso making fun of the main cast for being immature teenagers, like Ryuji didn't have a problem with those guys until they became more weird with him. Even in OG P5 there was more positive representations of LGBT characters like Lala Escargot. But you also games like Persona 2 Innocent Sin with Tatsuya and Jun or even Shin Megami Tensei 1, there's a non-closest gay man you can talk to in a bar and he has a pretty funny quip that isn't demeaning in any sort of way.

Even more controversially, Persona 4 having Naoto, Kanji and Yosuke in the main cast, I think does a good job at showing more complexity in LGBT discourse than a lot of other media that are just like "This person is trans. We did the representation, are you happy?" While, Kanji and Naoto story is less so about being LGBT and more about what Japan thinks about how women and men should ideally behave (i.e. men shouldn't have more feminine interest otherwise people will assume you to be a homosexual, or women should be in positions of authority like being a police officer or detective, even in spite of qualification and skills) but even someone like Yosuke, who I know a lot of people have issues, is if anything, shows that even though he might think Kanji as gay and that is a negative trait, he's still willing to work with Kanji and Yosuke doesn't shame Naoto for her shadow and how she feels. I think had the game implemented the gay romance for Yosuke officially, people will have far less issues with Yosuke.

As for adding same sex options for future games, I wouldn't be against it but I don't want it to be a lazy thing like what the new Rune Factory games does where they just make everybody romance-able partners, not leaving for any opportunity for like just having platonic relations or even characters where they're not bisexual. I have a lot of problems with games like Fallout New Vegas but one aspect it does well is where each character you can romance has dedicated sexual preference, some characters are straight, some are gay/lesbian, some are bi, etc. I think it gives the characters more individuality than just painting them all bisexual. I still don't want Social Sim aspects in all of Atlus games as well, games like Mainline SMT having Social Sim aspects is very pace breaking to the experience, I like it in Persona, but I don't like it in games like Soul Hackers 2

[Radiant Mantra]

I'm sorry Peace Walker, but this series usually doesn't touch on those topics, nor are there romance options in mainline.

[denisvandercreycraft]

MC is non-binary and will see but it's important that this character in addition to this feature what you say is well written, because just putting an LGBT character to fill the excel posts without any in relation to the story, the world presented in the game, the mechanics and other elements of the game that we players evaluate with our purchasing decisions

[kona]

Originally posted by denisvandercreycraft:

MC is non-binary and will see but it's important that this character in addition to this feature what you say is well written, because just putting an LGBT character to fill the excel posts without any in relation to the story, the world presented in the game, the mechanics and other elements of the game that we players evaluate with our purchasing decisions

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMhLU4bDUIg

[R7]

BACOT LO KAUM LGBT, KALAU MAU ADA UNSUR KAUM LO MENDING BIKIN GAME SENDIRI ANJING. GAK USAH NGERUSAK ATLUS BUAT MASUKIN UINSUR LGBT NGENTOT

[Gamefan]

The mainline games do not have romance in them normally. Though the new storyline may. SMT4 apocalypse had very small amounts of characters flirting with the protagonist but the original game did not.

[DrKold]

Originally posted by denisvandercreycraft:

MC is non-binary and will see but it's important that this character in addition to this feature what you say is well written, because just putting an LGBT character to fill the excel posts without any in relation to the story, the world presented in the game, the mechanics and other elements of the game that we players evaluate with our purchasing decisions

Where does it say the MC is non binary ?

[ez game ez life]

hopefully not

[kuirivito]

Originally posted by DrKold:

Originally posted by denisvandercreycraft:

MC is non-binary and will see but it's important that this character in addition to this feature what you say is well written, because just putting an LGBT character to fill the excel posts without any in relation to the story, the world presented in the game, the mechanics and other elements of the game that we players evaluate with our purchasing decisions

Where does it say the MC is non binary ?

it doesn't

[akkristor]

I mean, the Nahobino is literally two beings fused together. That's as non-binary as they come.

[bacon.]

Originally posted by kuirivito:

Originally posted by DrKold:

Where does it say the MC is non binary ?

it doesn't

only if you consider the actual definition of what non-binary would mean

[Blergh]

Originally posted by denisvandercreycraft:

MC is non-binary and will see but it's important that this character in addition to this feature what you say is well written, because just putting an LGBT character to fill the excel posts without any in relation to the story, the world presented in the game, the mechanics and other elements of the game that we players evaluate with our purchasing decisions

He's a straight male.

[King of Games]

Originally posted by denisvandercreycraft:

MC is non-binary

YOUNG MAN!

Originally posted by Peace Walker:

Haven't played SMTV, hope to see some LGBT+ representation

Well there is a giant green penis in the game, so there ya go

[LMSNoise]

Woke Aogami be like "Young them"