*SPOILERS* John Watson Fight

[Aether]

Am I the only one who has difficulty in progressing the story because John Watson fight is so obnoxious because he's so OP and fast meanwhile Dave is so freaking slow and awkward? Can't even have a break to grab the bat and when I hit the missile with the bat FACING John Watson, it doesn't work??? Like it blows up in Dave's face. Idk please fix it 😭

[Skutes]

Such an easy fight, grab bat, home run his missiles, dodge the rest, 2 min fight without getting hit once is easy.

[Scruffy Sage]

Originally posted by Tombs:

I managed to get my sniper rifle as the weapon I dive with so was pretty easy tbh

His mech suit is bulletproof, so you did not use the sniper on him.

[brianw24]

I didn't even realize you were intended to use the bat to knock the bombs back at Watson; I just swam in circles around him and when the bombs launched was able to swim by him and get them to hit him. Took me 4-5 tries to beat him.

[BettaFisch]

I didn't realize you can charge melee 😭 Thanks for the advice everyone!

[Stealth-Boy 3000]

Originally posted by Tombs:

I managed to get my sniper rifle as the weapon I dive with so was pretty easy tbh

Same here. Did him in on my first try

[Stealth-Boy 3000]

Originally posted by Scruffy Sage:

Originally posted by Tombs:

I managed to get my sniper rifle as the weapon I dive with so was pretty easy tbh

His mech suit is bulletproof, so you did not use the sniper on him.

So I'm guessing that's the second fight? I was thinking of the first? fight where he escapes through the hole afterwards. Damn, now I'm worried :S

[Aigle1705]

you fight that dude at least 3 times, havnt finished the game yet so maybe he returns once more...
didnt find any of these 3 fights themselves hard.
the problem with the 3rd time is, you basicly have 4 boss fights in a row.
i mean the game saves in between yet its still super annoying doing this in one dive...

[W@KK0]

Bear of a fight for sure. I ended up using his rockets against him; no attempt to knock them back. He'd melee/grasp attack 5-6 times, then fire the rocket. Definitely felt very out of place with the regular game play up to that point. Think it takes about 9 hits to break the armor to resolve the fight. I did find some pattern on his attacks; watch his hands. It telecasts if he's going to attack high, low, or charge.

Good luck; got him on the second try. Ran out of air on the first; couldn't get away from him trying to figure out the fight.

[Adam]

This might be where I just hang up the game and leave it at a C+ review. I can figure out what to do and how to do it, but batting the bombs back to have them fall short and hit the ground below him, or swimming around him and having them detonate inches from his face without connecting till my air runs out, gets tiresome when I have to swim out to replay the entire Gadon stealth mission before each retry.

The player character is an obese man swimming underwater, and controls like one. This kind of precision angling and timing is not appropriate to the game, and it's horribly placed.

Nice game. But kind of short, since this is shaping up to be the end for me.

[Selig]

Originally posted by Adam:

This might be where I just hang up the game and leave it at a C+ review. I can figure out what to do and how to do it, but batting the bombs back to have them fall short and hit the ground below him, or swimming around him and having them detonate inches from his face without connecting till my air runs out, gets tiresome when I have to swim out to replay the entire Gadon stealth mission before each retry.

The player character is an obese man swimming underwater, and controls like one. This kind of precision angling and timing is not appropriate to the game, and it's horribly placed.

Nice game. But kind of short, since this is shaping up to be the end for me.

If you fail the fight, you should be able to restart from the moment you leave the cave. You shouldn't have to redo the whole stealth thing all over again.,

As for the fight, I used the boost with CTRL to dodge attacks, and when he telegraphs the RPG attack, I charge the bat and it hits him every time.

[Nelliel]

Originally posted by Traver:

Just finished this fight about half an hour ago, on my fifth attempt (hardest boss so far for me).

This might help, as soon as a rocket is fired, you can swim through him without taking damage. So if you are close enough to him, swim through him and the rocket will hit him. I found the baseball bat to be useless...

You are my hero sir!

[Maligner]

Originally posted by Traver:

Just finished this fight about half an hour ago, on my fifth attempt (hardest boss so far for me).

This might help, as soon as a rocket is fired, you can swim through him without taking damage. So if you are close enough to him, swim through him and the rocket will hit him. I found the baseball bat to be useless...

This does work like a charm. Be aware though that I think if you charge up the bat swing it works much better and makes the bat worthwhile. Having said that, I generally swam through him as I did not bother picking up the bat.

[mogadeet]

I just got through this fight a couple of days ago. After about 10 attempts. I hear your frustration. Once you get to know his moves it becomes a lot easier to avoid him. I found using the bat to be the best option. It needs to be charged up by holding LMB.

[josada]

I was enjoying the game massively until I got to this fight. Probably tried a dozen times now. Just got fed up enough to force quit the game because the fight feels impossible for me. And I don't think i want to go through the stealth portion again. It's too tiresome.

I managed to swim around him all the time and getting the missiles to hit him, and I've counted at least 10 bombs hitting him and the fight just keeps going on. I'm either running out of air because I need to swim quickly out of his way, or Dave is simply too slow to move out of his way in time. I never got hit by a bomb, just kept getting hit by him all the time.

I thought the first fight was tiresome, but this one was way more frustrating. Will sadly have to put this game away for now. I don't want to revisit it again anytime soon.

[Songbird]

I feel like I played a completely different fight from everyone else?
1) The bat does not need to be charged to reflect the missiles.
2) The missiles slow to a near stop if you wait long enough.
3) The missiles always fly into him. You do not need to angle correctly.

It was extremely trivial...

Also, you might as well use the burst dash button and 30% boost speed charms all the time. None of the other charms do anything, and these two are by far the best for both combat and general ocean traversal (the burst dashes are always full speed even if you're at completely maxed weight).