AI on Lakeshore online.

[Astorisix]

I tried to find a match for custom playlists (delorian, porche, etc.), races, etc. no one wants to play except an S+ playlist. (haha, bugatti goes "1694yrds ahead")
Adding AI, even if it is to fill lobbies after 30 seconds (if no one get aboard or to fill the remaining positions) would make online better to everyone.
Do you want to play just with friends or a crew? Play a private game.
Want to play any game? Set it to search for races/playlists in all available sessions. And if you and another guy want to play the same playlist (that no one wants to play), the game auto-fills the race with random AI to make it more complete/competitive.
Wanna play with no-one because you are a former grinder of GTAO? Pick a race, select fill with AI and that it.
A dude got disconnect by server issues or just ragequit? A AI takes over and move on.
In the end, any way to race B/A/A+/Drift series more often are welcome, because the B/A/A+ and even Drift races are dead (at least in my side of servers).
Why remove a such """""""small""""""" and funtional feature that even Heat had it.

[76561199550619447]

No. They kept AI away from online mode for a reason, online is for PVP racing not racing bots. People in Heat would go online just to race the AI which is completely idiotic and leads to dead inactive servers. Keeping the AI in single player is the correct decision.

[Astorisix]

And the result of this is lobbies with 2-4 players in a race (if you're lucky enough for no one to leave until the end of the playlist or someone even enters the race).
My point is precisely that this would popularize races that no one wants to play, either because they give a low amount of XP/money or simply because they just want to roam around the map.
Want PVP races to be prioritized? Ok, so it needs a real matchmaking system that involves several servers and not just one session with 5-10 players. This would easily popular races with players that are REALLY interested in that race/playlist.

[Rambit]

Originally posted by ***** User:

No. They kept AI away from online mode for a reason, online is for PVP racing not racing bots. People in Heat would go online just to race the AI which is completely idiotic and leads to dead inactive servers. Keeping the AI in single player is the correct decision.

and this is why anyone that talks up heats online are morons and ive seen it multiple times people saying just that. what they should be talking up is modding single player.

[76561199550619447]

Originally posted by Rambit:

and this is why anyone that talks up heats online are morons and ive seen it multiple times people saying just that. what they should be talking up is modding single player.

Heat's online is good, but that's if you have friends or a group of friends to race with, otherwise you will hardly get other people to race, Heat's online was very very very poorly done, so many servers are completely dead.

[Rambit]

Originally posted by ***** User:

Originally posted by Rambit:

and this is why anyone that talks up heats online are morons and ive seen it multiple times people saying just that. what they should be talking up is modding single player.

Heat's online is good, but that's if you have friends or a group of friends to race with, otherwise you will hardly get other people to race, Heat's online was very very very poorly done, so many servers are completely dead.

thats a huge "IF" and even than good luck getting any of those "friends" to play online games with you in general. this game or any online game. unless of course you are 14 years old. but even than good luck.

[ittadakimaho]

Kinda completely agree with the OP.
The keyword here is options. Given the nature of online players, if something is not worth your time, you quit out. If you feel embarassed, you quit out. Tons of more reasons why an economy just involving players online usually fails.

You need options and failsafes to create some form of engagement to address the shortcommings of human players to make things fun for those that want to actually do something there. Do bots lead to players just grinding solo? Make PVP rewards considerably more worthwhile .. so pvp would be the preferred way to go for.

But total decissions on: no ai in general .. are as bad as enforcing ai. Again .. options.

[76561199550619447]

Originally posted by ittadakimaho:

Kinda completely agree with the OP.
The keyword here is options. Given the nature of online players, if something is not worth your time, you quit out. If you feel embarassed, you quit out. Tons of more reasons why an economy just involving players online usually fails.

You need options and failsafes to create some form of engagement to address the shortcommings of human players to make things fun for those that want to actually do something there. Do bots lead to players just grinding solo? Make PVP rewards considerably more worthwhile .. so pvp would be the preferred way to go for.

But total decissions on: no ai in general .. are as bad as enforcing ai. Again .. options.

"to make things fun for those that want to actually do something there"

You find racing AI fun? Why not just do that in singleplayer? And even if someone else in the playlist quits, just soldier on and you'll still be progressing towards your unlocks. People exaggerate these issues so vastly saying "people never join my playlists" which I hardly experience at all and i play the game regularly. If you find a server where people don't join races just move to a different server. AI in online would slash the number of active human racers by half. Servers would be full of zombies grinding AI races for their unlocks

[DiegoVal12]

I just want to play online races with my friend, however the cars are completely different from the ones we grinded for and learned to drive in the story, so once we both finally have time to play together neither of us have any fast cars or things we like. Also, getting into a race with literally one other person is so lame, and is not very fun because it feels dead and un-challengeing. We both loved the online with the more full and dynamic races in NFS heat, but we wanted to try the newer cars as well as the new map with the new boost mechanics. its very unfortunate to us because we always do one on one races with hardly any cops around.

[Viking2121]

I wouldn't mind some AI, Yeah you got single player but half the DLC you bought can't be used on single player anyway, And racing alone because the game requires you grind out races that nobody plays gets dull vary fast, with AI at least you'd have something to try hard at. I mean at this point Online already feels like single player with multiplayer free roam anyway so whats the difference?

[DiegoVal12]

The difference is that I just wanna be able to race with my friends and from what I understand that you cant invite friends to play offline

[Viking2121]

Originally posted by DiegoVal12:

The difference is that I just wanna be able to race with my friends and from what I understand that you cant invite friends to play offline

No crap, connect online and invite them.....

[DiegoVal12]

Originally posted by Viking2121:

Originally posted by DiegoVal12:

The difference is that I just wanna be able to race with my friends and from what I understand that you cant invite friends to play offline

No crap, connect online and invite them.....

Yeah im saying i dont like the online races and how the open world functions. It feels empty with no cops and like you arent at danger of being caught. I like racing with ai as well with him cus it feels less empty and more exciting even if we smoke them each race.

[crashosaurus (・ω・)]

Originally posted by ***** User:

No. They kept AI away from online mode for a reason, online is for PVP racing not racing bots. People in Heat would go online just to race the AI which is completely idiotic and leads to dead inactive servers. Keeping the AI in single player is the correct decision.

even in unbound, the servers STILL die. maybe everyone is trying the new lockdown mode, but i am sick and tired of no one trying the hot pursuit mode with me.