Will this game end Bioware?

[Omnitek]

Sad if true. Although Bioware is already dead in a sense.

[lorddeliverence]

I expect a huge round of lay offs not long after launch, however I suspect EA will keep the studio open to complete the next Mass Effect game. Hopefully they will learn what not to do from Dragon Age and clean house of the activists.

[Xafron Chi]

No I don't think it will end Bioware. Depending on how it sells, they may or may not face some layoffs though.

But if this doesn't sell well, and the next Mass Effect doesn't sell well on top of that, it could end Bioware.

And the next Mass Effect will have to contend with EXODUS from Archetype Entertanment, which was established by Wizards of the Coast.

But I think this game will sell better on console than PC. There's not many other releases around it. And I think there's a lot of people still in the undecided camp. So it kind of feels unpredictable to me.

[Sem56]

bioware died in 2008 lol

that's how buyouts work

[Sem56]

Origineel geplaatst door Krafin117:

Origineel geplaatst door Sem56:

bioware died in 2008 lol

that's how buyouts work

Probably the most true statement on this entire forum.

you'd be surprised just how much this EA business strategy works, i tell people this a lot in the codemasters forums

and it's only now like 3 years later that some people are getting it

they just keep the name alive to help deflect the fact that they destroy games

[virvel]

Origineel geplaatst door Sem56:

Origineel geplaatst door Krafin117:

Probably the most true statement on this entire forum.

you'd be surprised just how much this EA business strategy works, i tell people this a lot in the codemasters forums

and it's only now like 3 years later that some people are getting it

they just keep the name alive to help deflect the fact that they destroy games

Spot on! I nearly forgot that Bioware was sold in 2007/08. Now it's just a brand. The good thing is: I do not have to buy it. Free will ftw.

[Player One]

Origineel geplaatst door 3raccoons1coat:

Yes. Please join us in a moment of silence. Which ideally should last forever.

Do you promise?

[Player One]

Origineel geplaatst door 3raccoons1coat:

Ask OP

Origineel geplaatst door 3raccoons1coat:

Yes. Please join US in a moment of silence. Which ideally should last forever.

Your comment made it sound like you were going to be part of the forever silence too. There was some excitement about that.

[Sem56]

Origineel geplaatst door virvel:

Origineel geplaatst door Sem56:

you'd be surprised just how much this EA business strategy works, i tell people this a lot in the codemasters forums

and it's only now like 3 years later that some people are getting it

they just keep the name alive to help deflect the fact that they destroy games

Spot on! I nearly forgot that Bioware was sold in 2007/08. Now it's just a brand. The good thing is: I do not have to buy it. Free will ftw.

the amount of times i see people saying

"buh buh buh.. they're just the publisher" when it comes to EA just proves how well their business strategy works

meanwhile they own everything about the brand... why people think they wouldn't have a say in how their money is spent i will never understand

i think those people just think they burn some cd's and put them out in some shops and call it a day

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Origineel geplaatst door Krafin117:

Origineel geplaatst door Sem56:

the amount of times i see people saying

"buh buh buh.. they're just the publisher" when it comes to EA just proves how well their business strategy works

meanwhile they own everything about the brand... why people think they wouldn't have a say in how their money is spent i will never understand

i think those people just think they burn some cd's and put them out in some shops and call it a day

lol Right. If that was the case Codemasters wouldn't be bothering with UE4.

ah WRC did that right? yeah that sounded like a bad choice

meanwhile the F1 series is hiring a live service manager right now

FIFA much? lol

[KrO]

No, because these woke companies are funded and not reliant on sales for their future. Haven't you noticed over the last decade Disney flop after Marvel flop and they still keep churning out the same type of crap movies? The same phenomenon has moved over to gaming in the last few years, and will continue until the funders want to push things in a different direction.

I suppose if I was a dev being paid a good 6 figure salary and all I have to do is throw in some LGBT crap, lots of women in inappropriate roles, or various races of people (who don't play the game and often look awkward in the setting) then I would probably do it also.

[Alvin the Elf]

I mean people have been predicting BioWare's death with Inquisition, Andromeda, Anthem, even SWTOR. Every time it's 'Oh, THIS time is the final end.' I admire their optimism.

Origineel geplaatst door KrO:

Haven't you noticed over the last decade Disney flop after Marvel flop and they still keep churning out the same type of crap movies?

Just because you don't like some movie, doesn't make it a flop. Disney keeps making those movies because they are financially massively successful.

[[Heretic]Rivga]

Origineel geplaatst door KrO:

No, because these woke companies are funded and not reliant on sales for their future. Haven't you noticed over the last decade Disney flop after Marvel flop and they still keep churning out the same type of crap movies? The same phenomenon has moved over to gaming in the last few years, and will continue until the funders want to push things in a different direction.

I suppose if I was a dev being paid a good 6 figure salary and all I have to do is throw in some LGBT crap, lots of women in inappropriate roles, or various races of people (who don't play the game and often look awkward in the setting) then I would probably do it also.

Disney has been progressive in its politics for a very long time
And for a very long time it has been highly profitable, cherry picking a few years when things are not profitable is hardly a solid argument.

They have returned to profitability again and still woke.

Modern entertainment explosion means we have huge amounts of choice, that choice means that a lot of programs will fail.
Back when I was small UK hard 4 channels on TV which meant that most programs would have an OK audience. Now I have access to 200 plus channels.

The entertainment industry can make 80 failures and 5 top shows and make huge sums of money.
Additionally shows can be underwhelming and still make huge money, maybe not as much as the Corp wanted, Rings of power for instance is not doing well but 40 million viewers is impressive numbers.

GoT considered a success was 38million.

Strange world the entertainment world.

[virvel]

Origineel geplaatst door KrO:

No, because these woke companies are funded and not reliant on sales for their future. Haven't you noticed over the last decade Disney flop after Marvel flop and they still keep churning out the same type of crap movies? The same phenomenon has moved over to gaming in the last few years, and will continue until the funders want to push things in a different direction.

I suppose if I was a dev being paid a good 6 figure salary and all I have to do is throw in some LGBT crap, lots of women in inappropriate roles, or various races of people (who don't play the game and often look awkward in the setting) then I would probably do it also.

But how are they funded? I mean why would anyone invest in a stock/company that does not make money? It seems like basic capitalism is not working.....

I am really wondering why Disney and Co. are still not changing their course of action. Any "normal" corporate approach would be to cut your losses and change the strategy to go back increasing their top-line. It sure looks like they're on subsidy....or they are still making enough money to just throw it at a problem.

[Alvin the Elf]

Origineel geplaatst door virvel:

I am really wondering why Disney and Co. are still not changing their course of action. Any "normal" corporate approach would be to cut your losses and change the strategy

It's simple. They are not experiencing losses.

Despite what the anti-woke crowd likes to think, Disney is making money hand over fist.

[Pontianak Tamer]

Cinematic cutscene, grand epic adventure narrative, companion character arc story. Vibrant Lived in world and lore (albeit DA:I and ME:A's "larger but less lively world")

There are extremely few companies that does all these together, and BioWare has been standing on that, even Inquisition and Andromeda was still pretty great in those regards despite all the hoo ha.

Mass effect and SWTOR even more so, since most companies that does grand adventures mostly tend to do magical fantasy themes than Sci-fi which a large majority of players crave for. Unless Exodus releases soon and poaches most of the fanbase away.