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Naus Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:01am
Why would you actually buy this game knowing there is Baldurs Gate 3?
It is really mystery to me. I played every Dragon Age game up to this one but after seeing reviews and gameplays I... just don't see any reason to spend money or time on it. I already have Baldurs Gate 3 that is better in basically everything.

I even found full gameplay on youtube, 100% of game done in under 11 hours.
Lol. And how long develompent of this take? 10 years? Wp.

So to any of you guys here who bought it, can you tell me why you decided to buy this game? What motivated you? What am I missing? There are some crazy DLC expansions incoming? You are such a big fan od DA, you buy anything? Or you just fell for marketing?

I repeat, I write this as person who thinks about buying, but fail to find reason to do so. I hope I didn't hurt anyones feelings but will make 10 pushups just in case.
<performs 10 push ups>.

Thanks in advance for all the answers.
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Originally posted by Quacksalber:
Originally posted by Naus:
Originally posted by EH!:
Because I've got almost 2 k hours in BG3 and there's only so much you can play one game.

I'll admit a lot of that time I was offtab, but that applies to all games I play ... nevertheless, I've still completed it as half elf, half-drow, drow, Astarion, Gale, Karlach, and got half way through act 3 as high elf and a modded Asaimar, you get the gist.

Impresive, in that case, I can understand. You are RPG veteran so you just look for RPG to play. But since you played 2k hours in BG 3 you are right person to tell me if DA Veilguard really feels bad compared to it? What I mean precisly is storytelling and how well dialogues and characters are written. Do game keep you engaged? Or you play it just because there is nothing better at the time?

I don't feel qualified to answer that definitively as I haven't got that far yet and it took me a while to get into it. The graphics and console game feel were distracting at the beginning, as well as adjusting to the pacing, after replaying the other 3 games.

Like all DA games, it's different from its predecessors. The gameplay is fun and the story is keeping me engaged. As for the writing, there's been nothing that blew me away content wise. For eg, in origins there was fantastic banter, especially Morrigan vs Alistair, or in DAI Solas' monologues were mesmerising, and there's no way this game is going to allow those type of morally grey playthroughs you could do in DA:O, which for me is one of the only times I've been able to enjoy "evil" choices, because one could rationalise them via the "anything to beat the blight" rationale. BG3 also isn't great in the evil playthrough department in my personal opinion, though the concept of playing Dark Urge is fantastic.

Having said that, BG3 doesn't stand out to me writing-wise either. It's more that the game as a whole comes together to make it great, and the voice acting/mocap they did is just incredibly good. The writing sometimes makes little sense and/or is overly bombastic. Like the whole chapter 2 stuff that's convoluted to the point people often have opinions on it that make little sense - such as thinking Ketheric is a character worth sympathising with, although he's insanely evil and twisted, he just feels sorry for himself as well, lol. Loghain is a far batter example of bad guy one can possibly sympathise with, or even Solas, but I don't want to bore you or ruin the game for people due to having overthunk it all xD

This game is more similar to DA2 than the other two games. I think if you go into it with an open mind and like DA games for their stories and lore, without expecting another DA:O, you should enjoy it. I suggest checking out the Vows and Vengeance series on YT - it will give you a better feel for the setting, writing etc than some random rage bait youtubers or Steam trolls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1rXj_Lg0dw&list=PL38xVi19e7CKw97GC6DGYPNuOxVzh52PU

There are also people reading Tevinter Nights on Youtube, which is worth looking into, too.

At the end of the day, I don't think one should compare one game directly to another,, but rather see them for themselves with their respective positives and negatives, and BG3 is a an anomaly, even for Larian. Their other games are nothing near as good, plus they took like 20 years to make a banger. If we approach gaming expecting every game to have the scope of BG3 we will be as disappointed as we would be if we expect every game to have Witcher 3 writing or Elder Scrolls level freedom/modability.
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everybe2 Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:04am 
Do you suggest to buy BG3 the seond time?
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Naus Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:05am 
Originally posted by everybe2:
Do you suggest to buy BG3 the seond time?

Of course not. I am just surprised people would choose to drive Opel Vectra 2002 having BMW M2 2018 in the garage next to it.
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Arestris Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:08am 
Why not? You know, you're allowed to have them all! You're allowed to enjoy BG3 and DA:V, don't you?
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Drakanen Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:11am 
arpg vs trpg, not everyone likes the other one, would be my guess
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everybe2 Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:11am 
Originally posted by Naus:
Originally posted by everybe2:
Do you suggest to buy BG3 the seond time?

Of course not. I am just surprised people would choose to drive Opel Vectra 2002 having BMW M2 2018 in the garage next to it.
Not a good analogy.
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everybe2 Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:12am 
Originally posted by Amplifier:
Because BG3 is a single player game which you can only complete so many times duh??? I already sunk 300 hours in BG3 and am pretty much 100% done with it already.

Do you also ask people why dont they play Skyrim for the 1 millionth time instead of the next new RPG?? What kind of dumb logic is this?

Yeah, i spent 100 h in EA alone.
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Majere Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:13am 
Odd question. Why did I play Lords of the Fallen when I had Elden Ring? Because I'd already played the hell out of ER and LoTF was another good game in the same genre.

With BG3 vs DATV it's not even that close a comparison given that DATV is an ARPG now. I loved BG3 but the moment-to-moment turn based gameplay eventually gets a bit rote, especially since most of the harder fights are now 'solved problems' (eg cheesing Raphael).
In any case, it's a world I've not been back to in, what, a decade? It's nice to revisit the setting.
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Quacksalber Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:13am 
Because I've got almost 2 k hours in BG3 and there's only so much you can play one game.

I'll admit a lot of that time I was offtab, but that applies to all games I play ... nevertheless, I've still completed it as half elf, half-drow, drow, Astarion, Gale, Karlach, and got half way through act 3 as high elf and a modded Asaimar, you get the gist.
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Naus Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:16am 
Originally posted by EH!:
Because I've got almost 2 k hours in BG3 and there's only so much you can play one game.

I'll admit a lot of that time I was offtab, but that applies to all games I play ... nevertheless, I've still completed it as half elf, half-drow, drow, Astarion, Gale, Karlach, and got half way through act 3 as high elf and a modded Asaimar, you get the gist.

Impresive, in that case, I can understand. You are RPG veteran so you just look for RPG to play. But since you played 2k hours in BG 3 you are right person to tell me if DA Veilguard really feels bad compared to it? What I mean precisly is storytelling and how well dialogues and characters are written. Do game keep you engaged? Or you play it just because there is nothing better at the time?
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everybe2 Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:20am 
Originally posted by Naus:
Originally posted by EH!:
Because I've got almost 2 k hours in BG3 and there's only so much you can play one game.

I'll admit a lot of that time I was offtab, but that applies to all games I play ... nevertheless, I've still completed it as half elf, half-drow, drow, Astarion, Gale, Karlach, and got half way through act 3 as high elf and a modded Asaimar, you get the gist.

Impresive, in that case, I can understand. You are RPG veteran so you just look for RPG to play. But since you played 2k hours in BG 3 you are right person to tell me if DA Veilguard really feels bad compared to it? What I mean precisly is storytelling and how well dialogues and characters are written. Do game keep you engaged? Or you play it just because there is nothing better at the time?

It`s way more linear.
And all is solved only with combat.
Way less party interractions.

But it`s fast paced, lot of things happening.
You visit more areas and they are more beautifull then in any other previous game.
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Ztreak Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:22am 
I already have BG3. Had it since it came in early access.
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Defective Dopamine Pez Dispenser Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:22am 
Because they aren't mutually exclusive, and they provide very different experiences. It's like saying, "Why would you buy Civ if you know Europa Universalis exists??" Or, "Why would you buy Fable if you know The Temple of Elemental Evil exists?" or what have you. Because I enjoy both in different ways and for different reasons.
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Naus Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:24am 
Originally posted by Banelord:
They came here to satiate that hunger and emptiness left after BG3, and instead they got THIS.

Yeah you basically nailed the issue I am trying to get answer to with mixed result so far. : D
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Naus Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:32am 
Originally posted by Tijger:
Originally posted by Naus:

Yeah you basically nailed the issue I am trying to get answer to with mixed result so far. : D

Only idjits pretend that you have to choose between them and they are exclusionary.

Maybe my question was formed in wrong way and that led into some confusion I see that appeared here.

I do not deny that you can buy two games and play two games. What I am asking is if there is any reason to buy new Dragon Age when there is Baldurs Gate 3. And no, buying "because you can", "because they are not exclusionary" is not good enough argument for me to spend money. I want good product. The meaning of this question was to ask about Dragon Age Veilguard quality, dismiss some possible myths that always appear due to both sides propaganda of success and failure and then at the end decide if game is worth buying. I won't buy game only because it's RPG or because it's Dragon Age or because I have nothing else to play. But I will buy game that is same or better quality that other game I enjoyed in the past represented.

I hope that helps.
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Defective Dopamine Pez Dispenser Nov 3, 2024 @ 4:42am 
Originally posted by Naus:
I do not deny that you can buy two games and play two games. What I am asking is if there is any reason to buy new Dragon Age when there is Baldurs Gate 3. And no, buying "because you can", "because they are not exclusionary" is not good enough argument for me to spend money.

It sounds like what you're really asking is for a reason why you should consider buying the game when what you regard as a superior alternative exists. And no one can answer that but you. Obviously if it's not a game you see value in, you shouldn't buy it.
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