Explain to Me?

[BrattyPhoebe]

We know so many of you hate it. You made your point after that most people would I don't know just stop. Yet so many people posting how much they hate this game are repeat posters and honestly it's like 'don't you all have any life?' like seriously. Do you really need the whole world to know you hate a game, is that your entire personality now?

I seriously want to know. I have blocked so many posts repeating ad-nauseum and so many people just repeating themselves in various ways. You keep demanding for this game to fail and yet you force the supporters to defend it, it's a vicious cycle, and it is boring.

Read a book, watch a movie, play some other game hell write something. Save discussion forum for people who like the game now you made your point so many damn times it's honestly come across like 'you doth protest too much.'

Is it perfect no, but do a lot of people like it, yes instead of incessantly hating something as loud as possible, why not do something productive. Hell it's Halloween, that usually when lots of good horror movies are on, surely that is more worth getting invested in?

[whit]

You've made 12 posts in the past hour? Why aren't you playing the game?

[BrattyPhoebe]

Originally posted by whit:

You've made 12 posts in the past hour? Why aren't you playing the game?

Because been playing for 8 hours and taking a break, is that so hard to believe?

[BPScott95]

Originally posted by PaladinQuinn:

Originally posted by whit:

You've made 12 posts in the past hour? Why aren't you playing the game?

Because been playing for 8 hours and taking a break, is that so hard to believe?

Not to folks who've spent 14 hours desperately coming up with new numbers or a new excuse tbf.

[BrattyPhoebe]

Originally posted by BPScott95:

Originally posted by PaladinQuinn:

Because been playing for 8 hours and taking a break, is that so hard to believe?

Not to folks who've spent 14 hours desperately coming up with new numbers or a new excuse tbf.

*shrugs* I was never going to play full game in one sitting. I play Dragon Age for fun I pace myself and move through it slowly, immersing myself in the content and making sure to get as much of the story stuff as I can. Less so achievement hunting more just making get full experience.

[whit]

To be fair to the OP, they've been honest in their opinions. I just don't agree with the argument in their post. And it's not really worth a rebuttal. TLDR op is whining at the whiners.

[BrattyPhoebe]

Originally posted by whit:

To be fair to the OP, they've been honest in their opinions. I just don't agree with the argument in their post. And it's not really worth a rebuttal. TLDR op is whining at the whiners.

I just don't get why they don't just move on. Sure I am complaining, but it's because it's so boring. I would rather discuss lore, people characters or codex entries, not people obsessing on pushing their culture war bollocks.

[Supgad]

You create a post, accusing those who repeatedly post their complaints about the game of having no life, when you're all over these forums, routinely and repeatedly chanting how great it is, how lore-rich and neatly wrapped it is, etc.?

Maybe turn on a lamp, so you can recognise how black your own pot is.

[BPScott95]

Originally posted by PaladinQuinn:

Originally posted by BPScott95:

Not to folks who've spent 14 hours desperately coming up with new numbers or a new excuse tbf.

*shrugs* I was never going to play full game in one sitting. I play Dragon Age for fun I pace myself and move through it slowly, immersing myself in the content and making sure to get as much of the story stuff as I can. Less so achievement hunting more just making get full experience.

Don't you know if we fail to finish it on Day 1 we're not REAL gamers or something?

Take your time, I intend to.

[Defective Dopamine Pez Dispenser]

I'm very old and sometimes a little slow to come to terms with things being as they are, so it took me a while to wrap my head around this, but I've recently learned what "brigading" is online. And seen forum topics in other games' forums "recruiting" for them, including for brigades against this specific game.

Once I understood that, a lot of the behavior I see on Steam forums made more sense. Don't get me wrong, there is also a lot of authentic critique, and that's fine. But there are brigades against selected games organized both on the Steam forums, and from outside of Steam via Discord groups and the like. I've seen it in other forums as well. Sometimes even once it dies down, a few specific users (sometimes including alts of the same few users) will keep it up even a year plus after a game releases.

Sadly this is just what internet discussion forums look like now on Steam. It's why every forum for me now just is walls of "Topic By A Blocked User."

[whit]

Originally posted by PaladinQuinn:

Originally posted by whit:

To be fair to the OP, they've been honest in their opinions. I just don't agree with the argument in their post. And it's not really worth a rebuttal. TLDR op is whining at the whiners.

I just don't get why they don't just move on. Sure I am complaining, but it's because it's so boring. I would rather discuss lore, people characters or codex entries, not people obsessing on pushing their culture war bollocks.

Yeah, that's understandable. But it's steam. The dragonageveilguard subreddit might be the best place for that. Until like a wiki/a is updated. But having those kind of discussions are going to require people to play further into the game I think.

[Jeff]

Originally posted by PaladinQuinn:

We know so many of you hate it. You made your point after that most people would I don't know just stop. Yet so many people posting how much they hate this game are repeat posters and honestly it's like 'don't you all have any life?' like seriously. Do you really need the whole world to know you hate a game, is that your entire personality now?

I seriously want to know. I have blocked so many posts repeating ad-nauseum and so many people just repeating themselves in various ways. You keep demanding for this game to fail and yet you force the supporters to defend it, it's a vicious cycle, and it is boring.

Read a book, watch a movie, play some other game hell write something. Save discussion forum for people who like the game now you made your point so many damn times it's honestly come across like 'you doth protest too much.'

Is it perfect no, but do a lot of people like it, yes instead of incessantly hating something as loud as possible, why not do something productive. Hell it's Halloween, that usually when lots of good horror movies are on, surely that is more worth getting invested in?

You have to understand very intimately why racists/bigots commit to racism/bigotry to understand why they persist with posting their filth. It's not so much about the games as it's about their freaking out that heterosexual white males are no longer under the spotlight. It's like when you pull a fish out of water, what do they do?

Also, to put it plainly, they're being treated the way they've treated marginalized groups for a very long time and they can't handle it. It's the biggest, most insufferable hissyfit of all time.

[Kai]

I don't know, maybe because this garbage is a cancer to the industry that should deservedly be decried and removed entirely so we can get back to the good ol days where companies weren't slurping up financial incentives based around investor knob gobbling with ESG scores that wedge this DEI trash into the game in order to reach said score so they can secure the funds.

Who suffers in the end? The consumer, as always. Why do you think people are pissed off over receiving an inferior product at a premium? Must be a mystery!

[BrattyPhoebe]

Originally posted by Kai:

I don't know, maybe because this garbage is a cancer to the industry that should deservedly be decried and removed entirely so we can get back to the good ol days where companies weren't slurping up financial incentives based around investor knob gobbling with ESG scores that wedge this DEI trash into the game in order to reach said score so they can secure the funds.

Who suffers in the end? The consumer, as always. Why do you think people are pissed off over receiving an inferior product at a premium? Must be a mystery!

*bursts out laughing loudly* lord you really think you know it all huh. There is no big conspiracy, there is people making the games they wanna make, something a lot of your ilk can't wrap their head around. The only cancer is people who obsessively attack every game without a male protagonist. It's boring, you are all boring and frankly wasted my time enough here, I am going to do smart thing, go to sleep and play game when I wake up.

[Jeff]

Originally posted by Defective Dopamine Pez Dispenser:

I'm very old and sometimes a little slow to come to terms with things being as they are, so it took me a while to wrap my head around this, but I've recently learned what "brigading" is online. And seen forum topics in other games' forums "recruiting" for them, including for brigades against this specific game.

Once I understood that, a lot of the behavior I see on Steam forums made more sense. Don't get me wrong, there is also a lot of authentic critique, and that's fine. But there are brigades against selected games organized both on the Steam forums, and from outside of Steam via Discord groups and the like. I've seen it in other forums as well. Sometimes even once it dies down, a few specific users (sometimes including alts of the same few users) will keep it up even a year plus after a game releases.

Sadly this is just what internet discussion forums look like now on Steam. It's why every forum for me now just is walls of "Topic By A Blocked User."

This is freaking hilarious. Doesn't surprise me at all though. Steam needs a major cleanup. It needs a strike team that shoot this "brigading" crap down and keeps it down.

[Jeff]

Originally posted by whit:

Originally posted by PaladinQuinn:

I just don't get why they don't just move on. Sure I am complaining, but it's because it's so boring. I would rather discuss lore, people characters or codex entries, not people obsessing on pushing their culture war bollocks.

Yeah, that's understandable. But it's steam. The dragonageveilguard subreddit might be the best place for that. Until like a wiki/a is updated. But having those kind of discussions are going to require people to play further into the game I think.

I only visited briefly, but I also found that the official DAV forums for EA are pretty clear of children pitching a fit.