AoS is a good setting and WFB was a good one too

[Burned Man]

I love both settings but AoS has been such a good refresh and brought so many cool factions that this games makes me happy,i hope it comes as a fun to play and enjoyable,but we should for once stop hating AoS just for being the new step,we all liked the old world but why some of you just decided to dont like something bc isnt the thing u liked,its a bit extreme,i havent been a total fan of 40k but i would never hate it just bc isnt like my 2 favorite settings.We should all be happy AoS will have a game and if isnt ♥♥♥♥ it could be a lot of fun for all of us.

[rob.dee]

no AoS is awful

[Kazeck]

AoS is vastly inferior as a setting.

Not talking about gameplay or anything else, just do a wiki-dive on it even, it reads like...late 90's DnD 3.5e third party setting info. It's divided into 8 planes based on the winds of magic, with crazy environments and weird races, plus the remixes of the characters from the original WFB, to the point I'd rather a just entirely novel setting to...this.

It has no foundation of 'normalcy' either, WFB had a world that was real, existed, and not as inherently magical, in which everything else overlaid and altered, but AoS is like...planescape torment to baldurs gate in terms of setting.

Was PST better than BG? Many would definitely say yes in terms of story and gameplay, was it a better setting for a general universe? Not really no, as no one was 'normal' there.

[『Glory Days』]

Its lore is getting better and has been since 2nd edition in 2018, no one will deny that 1st edition was and will forever be a ♥♥♥♥ show that only added to the bad taste of the endtimes, GW is focusing less on hyper in-depth history of the age of myth/chaos and more on a storyline that evolves the world as the game lives, basically an entirely different end to the spectrum of story telling compared to WHFB, which had a fairly in depth history (though not as 'deep' as many will be keen to tell you.) and had 0 ability to move its story line along in any meaningful way right up until its death, with the only attempt being largely swept under the rug in the next edition after its introduction because unfortunately the finite setting offers little way to expand and introduce new elements without upsetting the status quo in a way that was too big for most fantasy fans.

Overall though, yeah, AoS as a setting has gotten to a pretty good place and anyone who hasn't had their head stuck in the ground since 2015 will tell you that, with Dan Abnett assisting on the writing for this game i'll be keen to see if it ties in at all to the current progressing narrative in Thondia in a meaningful way or if it'll just be a self contained adventure in the grand-scheme.

[Migromul]

I didn't realy like the WFB-RTS-Games. But I - of course - LOVE TW: WH fantasy.
What I certainly DID like is Warhammer dawn of war. But only the first part with all its addons. (I realy only play soulstorm. I love a campaign where you have all available from the beginning.... I realy mostly only play skimish-mode in other RTS-Games because of that. And this is the reason, why I LOVE the meta-campaign of DoW 1 both dark crusade and soulstom. Soulstorm has more interesting features imho, And instead of speical maps you just need to defeat a faction to get their spcialities. (which of course IS a special map. But in Dark crusade, they weren't HQ-based.)

So if the AoS is like DoW soulstorm or dark crusade, I will love it. If it's - however - as catastrophal as DoW III, I won't bother. So I definitly wait until it's out and see then.

But from what I read, it's more like the other WH fantasy-RTS-games.

I have not the slightest plan of AoS, however. I know the fantasy-world and 40.000 to some degree. But not AoS.

[Nobelissimos]

AoS sucks and I feel bad for the people who try to pretend it's good and convince others of it. It's fine that you like it but almost nobody else does nor cares. It's 40k space marines + consolidated versions of all the warhammer fantasy factions + norse mythology smacked together. It feels like something made for a kids show or something.

[Burned Man]

Originally posted by rob.dee:

no AoS is awful

how? what does have AoS that makes it so awful?

[Burned Man]

Originally posted by Nobelissimos:

AoS sucks and I feel bad for the people who try to pretend it's good and convince others of it. It's fine that you like it but almost nobody else does nor cares. It's 40k space marines + consolidated versions of all the warhammer fantasy factions + norse mythology smacked together. It feels like something made for a kids show or something.

i feel bad aswell for all the people who hates AoS just bc isnt Fantasy,AoS is way more popular than fantasy ever was,Fantasy was doing so poorly on sales than a sinle mini in 40k was being sold more than the whole WFB range at some point.I love Fantasy aswell but all things have an end,one day AoS will be done for and we all had to move on or keep ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ online how we liked more the previous setting

[Honeymonstis]

Originally posted by Caraxes:

Originally posted by rob.dee:

no AoS is awful

how? what does have AoS that makes it so awful?

mostly people dislike the designs, look and lore aos.
The design/look mostly because of how its just taking whfb / 40k factions and putting a WoW skin on them (everything looks very unreal and toy-like/marvel).
And well the lore.... yeah it has no grounding and is so fast and loose with everything that people gets turned off because there is nothing to lash onto.
Now that is what I hear mostly when I speak about aos with people. You do not have to agree but its why it gets "hate".
Hopefully the game is so good that people give it a chance aos or not.

[Honeymonstis]

Originally posted by Caraxes:

Originally posted by Nobelissimos:

AoS sucks and I feel bad for the people who try to pretend it's good and convince others of it. It's fine that you like it but almost nobody else does nor cares. It's 40k space marines + consolidated versions of all the warhammer fantasy factions + norse mythology smacked together. It feels like something made for a kids show or something.

i feel bad aswell for all the people who hates AoS just bc isnt Fantasy,AoS is way more popular than fantasy ever was,Fantasy was doing so poorly on sales than a sinle mini in 40k was being sold more than the whole WFB range at some point.I love Fantasy aswell but all things have an end,one day AoS will be done for and we all had to move on or keep ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ online how we liked more the previous setting

"one day AoS will be done for"
good news at least.

[Nobelissimos]

Originally posted by Caraxes:

Originally posted by Nobelissimos:

AoS sucks and I feel bad for the people who try to pretend it's good and convince others of it. It's fine that you like it but almost nobody else does nor cares. It's 40k space marines + consolidated versions of all the warhammer fantasy factions + norse mythology smacked together. It feels like something made for a kids show or something.

i feel bad aswell for all the people who hates AoS just bc isnt Fantasy,AoS is way more popular than fantasy ever was,Fantasy was doing so poorly on sales than a sinle mini in 40k was being sold more than the whole WFB range at some point.I love Fantasy aswell but all things have an end,one day AoS will be done for and we all had to move on or keep ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ online how we liked more the previous setting

The cope is real. Enjoy your marvelhammer space marines.

[Veliopag]

Originally posted by Kazeck:

just do a wiki-dive on it even, it reads like...

No wiki or retelling is an authoritative source. To understand Warhammer, you need to read books. REAL books.

Originally posted by Honeymonstis:

mostly people dislike the designs, look and lore aos.

Most people don't know anything and have never seen Warhammer Age of Sigmar.
It's just told them to think so and hate by the talking head from YouTube or the "elites" from the forums. And they believed without question. This is how any propaganda works. So it's not a matter of taste, it's a matter of monkey/parrot behavior.

[Burned Man]

Originally posted by Veliopag:

Originally posted by Kazeck:

just do a wiki-dive on it even, it reads like...

No wiki or retelling is an authoritative source. To understand Warhammer, you need to read books. REAL books.

Originally posted by Honeymonstis:

mostly people dislike the designs, look and lore aos.

Most people don't know anything and have never seen Warhammer Age of Sigmar.
It's just told them to think so and hate by the talking head from YouTube or the "elites" from the forums. And they believed without question. This is how any propaganda works. So it's not a matter of taste, it's a matter of monkey/parrot behavior.

i loved Fantasy,i love now AoS,i dont get why people hate something bc they dont like it,ive always enjoyed less the 40k version but never hated it,like an old wise men said "haters gonna hate",conversation with these people goes pretty much like them telling you fantasy was the best thing ever and anything else is trash

[Autosavant Demetrius]

Wow, as usual people who hate AoS have no clue about it at all and say stupid things.
Can't wait for it to grow even more.

[Un Pingachu Warhammero]

Originally posted by Nobelissimos:

Originally posted by Caraxes:

i feel bad aswell for all the people who hates AoS just bc isnt Fantasy,AoS is way more popular than fantasy ever was,Fantasy was doing so poorly on sales than a sinle mini in 40k was being sold more than the whole WFB range at some point.I love Fantasy aswell but all things have an end,one day AoS will be done for and we all had to move on or keep ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ online how we liked more the previous setting

The cope is real. Enjoy your marvelhammer space marines.

You don't even know the meaning of the word cope.
Hint: look in a mirror.

[Burned Man]

Originally posted by Autosavant Demetrius:

Wow, as usual people who hate AoS have no clue about it at all and say stupid things.
Can't wait for it to grow even more.

i dont get all this old fantasy fans fanaticals,ive never seen someone going to tww3 discussion saying aos is better than fantasy but they come to an AoS release instead of move on,fantasy died bc sales were awful and gw nuked it,saved what it could and move on,if u dont like aos just go back to your cave and come back 30 years later when is replaced by the new setting