Very concerned about this game.

[Umie]

I was initially very hyped for HW3, but I think it's going to be an immense flop. At $80 you get a 10-ish hour campaign, so it just won't sell. All the multiplayer elements will die very quickly post release given the low sales.

On top of that, it seems the gameplay is less deep and actually worse than HW2 and they took no risks with it. Pretty bummed about this one. I'll be buying HW3 when it goes on sale for 10 bucks in a year or so. Still, good luck to the team, hope they stick with it.

[SCORP10N2000]

Smart choice! it currently has bugs, texture loading issues, and bad story aswell.

[Umie]

Originally posted by Ferranis:

Dawn Of War 3 moment :(
Man I loved 2...
Same here, loved 1 and Cata.

It DEFINITELY feels like DoW3 all over again, yes =(

[Brother Mungus]

Originally posted by Umie:

I was initially very hyped for HW3, but I think it's going to be an immense flop. At $80 you get a 10-ish hour campaign, so it just won't sell. All the multiplayer elements will die very quickly post release given the low sales.

On top of that, it seems the gameplay is less deep and actually worse than HW2 and they took no risks with it. Pretty bummed about this one. I'll be buying HW3 when it goes on sale for 10 bucks in a year or so. Still, good luck to the team, hope they stick with it.

You don't buy a homeworld game for the campaign, you buy it for the modding. It's like the KSP of RTS's.

If you're buying this game for the campaign alone, you're wasting your money, and should definitely wait till it drops in price.

[GokuSSj5KD]

I didn't think that it was that bad. The worst part is the TTK of fighters and lack of unit diversity (no real utility units). Story made no sense also but hey, I don't expect perfections from an RTS.

Now I'm a pretty big fan overall and got the preorder fleet commander edition and all of that, and I will agree with the price. Game is probably a 7/10 right now, and for 80$ 10h campaign on normal is a little bit underwhelming. at 50-60 I think it would be fine for what it is, but 80 is a big ask.

[Mythos]

Yeah, op isn't wrong. My biggest gripe is the short levels and campaign. Personally I still enjoyed it and I don't have buyers remorse but it does feel like a $40 game.

[garytc78]

Homeword 3 is NOT bad! I am loving it! But in its current state it feels like an unfinished product.. how could the devs make a skirmish mode with 6 tiny maps ??(they said 8 but we got only 6 and they all are small as nothing before!!!). How could they remove save/load feature from skirmish?? Why we cannot slower time in skirmish??? It's an absurd !!!! I don't understand that move

[Exile]

This is the first Homeworld game I can say I dislike to the point of hating it. It causes so much damage to the lore and feel of the universe with it's subpar story. In addition the terrain does not work properly either and having terrain in a space game defeats the purpose of it being a space game. This game is a franchise killer it is so bad.

[SCORP10N2000]

Yes in a nutshell it's needs time and a lot of patches/fixes!

[Rook]

Originally posted by Ferranis:

Dawn Of War 3 moment :(
Man I loved 2...
Same here, loved 1 and Cata.

Bingo! DOW3 was the same issue. Devs who didn't seem to understand why DOW2 was so good.

[Mephasto]

I wish it was even 10 hours, but it took me 6 hours to complete sadly. 1000% not worth 80€ in any way. I would get it on sale when they polish the bugs and A.I pathfinding more (if they do)

Easily the worst part is the story in this game.

[Mike]

Originally posted by Gnox:

You don't buy a homeworld game for the campaign, you buy it for the modding. It's like the KSP of RTS's.

If you're buying this game for the campaign alone, you're wasting your money, and should definitely wait till it drops in price.

I think you seriously underestimate the ratios of the players, most casual players play the campaign and then their done and i doubt even 15% of the total sales are done to the die hard players who spend tons of time modding/multiplaying and keep playing once the campaign is done.

If the main campaign is as short as rumored, perhaps you end up right as few want to spend the asked price thus the game will carer basically only to the die hard fans that see the long proposition. Its also very likely it will end up as dead game in multiplayer etc since few grabbed it and logically few moves to the next level of "fandom"

[LegendaryThunder]

Originally posted by Ferranis:

Dawn Of War 3 moment :(
Man I loved 2...
Same here, loved 1 and Cata.

Imagine if freespace was made today, just imagine the dropped features and retcons.

[zerk]

I wrote about it in a recent thread post, and i've reconciled expectations with realities with early access.

HW didn't get cult status thanks to amazing and artistic cinematics and solo campaign with drawn art instead of CGI, but it certainly didn't hurt!

So, the door is wide open for mods, there is skirmish and multiplayer content with leveling, and skins down the pipeline given these earlier packs.

yeah, solo campaign doesn't live up to expectations, but if you enjoyed odd HW skirmish and even multiplayer, tried one of these mods to battle with Battlestar Galatica, Star Wars or this complex mod you are likely to get the 80 bucks worth over the next decade as nothing is really infringing on this ultra fan space battle segment.

So we have HW3, but when does the XCOM Long War mods come relased? Most are probably glad its just released, and doesnt involve rebooting HW1 and HW2 first like with XCOM and admitting that remastering was a mistake, as it wasnt?

HW is a bit more 'special' than cult classics like XCOM and lets say Total Anihilation and its transforms similarities, as that stuff may not get remastered or rebooted.

But yeah, can get silently walk away from the television and news broadcasts and do some quick skirmish or co-op. And certainly, nobody care it's Half Life: Couner Strike anymore, and someone will probably make a single player mod, as if Half Life was a single player Counter Strike mod?

The early access stuff feel like beta testing war games and co-op stuff that needs work.

So fine, HW3 is out, when do we get complex mod for it?
Assume complaints and concerns have gotten alot of attention by devs?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=398406822
So I'm past it.
http://www.homeworld2complex.com/index1.htm

When do we get the mods that fixes things for everyone with strong opinions and preferences?

[aeligos]

I'm going to buy this game soon. But first I'm going to buy more Bitcoin.

So maybe in about a month I'll buy this game. Been looking forward to it.

Glad it is soon to be released.
I hope launch and engagement goes really well.

Much thanks to the devs and creators and artists who worked hard to get this game into the universe.

:coffee:

[zerk]

Originally posted by Space Dreamer:

Originally posted by zerk:

I wrote about it in a recent thread post, and i've reconciled expectations with realities with early access.

HW didn't get cult status thanks to amazing and artistic cinematics and solo campaign with drawn art instead of CGI, but it certainly didn't hurt!

So, the door is wide open for mods, there is skirmish and multiplayer content with leveling, and skins down the pipeline given these earlier packs.

yeah, solo campaign doesn't live up to expectations, but if you enjoyed odd HW skirmish and even multiplayer, tried one of these mods to battle with Battlestar Galatica, Star Wars or this complex mod you are likely to get the 80 bucks worth over the next decade as nothing is really infringing on this ultra fan space battle segment.

So we have HW3, but when does the XCOM Long War mods come relased? Most are probably glad its just released, and doesnt involve rebooting HW1 and HW2 first like with XCOM and admitting that remastering was a mistake, as it wasnt?

If it's just for modding, and mods won't come for a year or more, what's the point in buying it now?
This is like Starfield - only Starfield had a really long story with lots of side missions - so one could justify 60$ price now, while waiting for mods. But Homeworld 3 - just looks very overpriced for what it's offers. I think 30 - 40$ would have been the right price.

For me it's a classic, and must have for good gaming experiences 25 years ago! Every now and then its been great to repeat. But yeah, the hype is likely driven by all the hype around no information on mods that have been important.