Making a character seem "alive/breathing"?

[THE HOG-CRANKER]

Watching professional animations I noticed that models can really be brought to life when they appear to be "breathing"-----> not being completely frozen when they don't have to be acting a part. Is there a way to apply this effect very quickly to a model? I've tried jittering a model and then smoothing it out, but it always comes out terrible and fake. Or do these people really carefully animate each tiny breath a model takes?

[R234]

With years and yeas of practice.

[THE HOG-CRANKER]

Originally posted by R234:

With years and yeas of practice.

Wow that is a really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ helpful answer

[R234]

It's the truth. There's no magic answer to becoming a talented animator overnight.

[THE HOG-CRANKER]

Originally posted by R234:

It's the truth. There's no magic answer to becoming a talented animator overnight.

Please just stop it. I was asking what animators do to apply very subtle breathing motions. Now please go away.

[Mr.Mustard]

How to easily do it is use a sequence. It will use a TF2 animation applied to the character. You know how in game the character breaths? That's what it will do. Just right click the character and look for sequences. It's easy.

[THE HOG-CRANKER]

Yeah, I know that its the ragdoll_spawn animation or something. I find it a little too over the top but I should try smoothing/playhead it out directly after I spawn the model... of course thats annoying when you have a model that already has a sequence applied to it

[R234]

What the hell man. You asked how pros manage realistic motion, and I gave you the answer. They tweak time and time again until they get the hang of it. Even if you don't like the answer doesn't mean you have to be a ♥♥♥♥ about it.

Now if you'd asked "how can a beginner like me achieve good results in SFM", the answer would've been more along the lines of Mr.Mustard's. But that's not what you asked.

[THE HOG-CRANKER]

My question: how a breathing animation is applied in sfm
Your answer: With years and years of experience
Usefullness of your answer: Zero, that answer won't help me apply such a motion.

Now please go away, you're doing nothing to help.

[THE HOG-CRANKER]

Question: How can I charge the batteries of my car using power cables?
Answer: WITH YEARS AND YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
Oh thanks that will surely help me.

[R234]

You tell me to leave and then you keep on isulting me. Real mature there buddy.

Know what, I'm giving it one last shot, since it does seem like I didn't quite read your question right. Bul, like I said, you don't have to be a ♥♥♥♥ about it.

Right. So. Like Mr.Mustard said, you can import one of the idle sequences, and then modify that. You can change its speed by alt-dragging the side of the time selection, and you can make the motion more subdued by partially applying the playhead preset. Aside from that, there's the technique which I believe you mention in your OP, that is, jitter-slow down-smooth, but that's as you noticed better at creating microsaccades than breathing motion. Still though, good to have sometimes.

[Junos]

Originally posted by R234:

With years and yeas of practice.

Originally posted by R234:

It's the truth. There's no magic answer to becoming a talented animator overnight.

Originally posted by R234:

What the hell man. You asked how pros manage realistic motion, and I gave you the answer. They tweak time and time again until they get the hang of it. Even if you don't like the answer doesn't mean you have to be a ♥♥♥♥ about it.

Now if you'd asked "how can a beginner like me achieve good results in SFM", the answer would've been more along the lines of Mr.Mustard's. But that's not what you asked.

Originally posted by R234:

You tell me to leave and then you keep on isulting me. Real mature there buddy.

Know what, I'm giving it one last shot, since it does seem like I didn't quite read your question right. Bul, like I said, you don't have to be a ♥♥♥♥ about it.

Right. So. Like Mr.Mustard said, you can import one of the idle sequences, and then modify that. You can change its speed by alt-dragging the side of the time selection, and you can make the motion more subdued by partially applying the playhead preset. Aside from that, there's the technique which I believe you mention in your OP, that is, jitter-slow down-smooth, but that's as you noticed better at creating microsaccades than breathing motion. Still though, good to have sometimes.

[PIDXX]

I made a detailed guide on how to do it correctly, jittering isn't realistic in any way...

[PIDXX]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=350030896

[m_acrylic]

Originally posted by Chicken McNazi:

My question: how a breathing animation is applied in sfm
Your answer: With years and years of experience
Usefullness of your answer: Zero, that answer won't help me apply such a motion.

Now please go away, you're doing nothing to help.

Dude, he is a proffessional, best to listen.

[Krinkov]

Originally posted by m_acrylic:

Originally posted by Chicken McNazi:

My question: how a breathing animation is applied in sfm
Your answer: With years and years of experience
Usefullness of your answer: Zero, that answer won't help me apply such a motion.

Now please go away, you're doing nothing to help.

Dude, he is a proffessional, best to listen.

Dude look at the date. Also, I'm pretty sure none of us are actual "professionals".