Missing textures on a custom model

[TSGEvans]

So, I've been dabbling in some texture work, and I can't seem to figure out how to get a certain model to read a texture I have laid out for it. Everything seems to be in place, but I cant seem to get it to work.


I do, however, keep getting the same errors within the console

SMBZ items/Skypop_plane.mdl : material "models/smbz items/material" not found.
SMBZ items/Skypop_plane.mdl : material "material" not found.
SMBZ items/Skypop_plane.mdl : material "models/smbz items/textured" not found.
SMBZ items/Skypop_plane.mdl : material "textured" not found.


I have a Vtf, Vmt, and model all in one file under my mods/models/SMBZ items

I thought that moving just the VTF and the VMT to a seperate my mods/materials/SMBZ items would work, but to no avail.


If anyone is willing to lend me a hand, I'd be more than thankful.

[Pte Jack]

you need to create a new MODELS folder in the mods/models/ folder and move the SMBZ folder into it.

The path to the VMTs should be mods/models/MODELS/SMBZ
(note the second models folder in the path. )

[TSGEvans]

Originally posted by Pte Jack:

you need to create a new MODELS folder in the mods/models/ folder and move the SMBZ folder into it.

The path to the VMTs should be mods/models/MODELS/SMBZ
(note the second models folder in the path. )

Well, the texture is working now, but only if I override it sadly.

Even worse, the model has no reaction to lighting and is constantly full bright even if the vmt doesn't have $selfillum 1 enabled.

For clearance sake, there is no active bumpmap.

[EmperorFaiz.wav]

Make sure you use VertexLitGeneric not UnlitGeneric

[TSGEvans]

Originally posted by EmperorFaiz.zip:

Make sure you use VertexLitGeneric not UnlitGeneric

VertexLit is in the vmt yeah. Not sure why it wouldn’t be working.

[Pte Jack]

Take a screenshot of the folder where the VMTs and VTFs are located in Windows File Explorer making sure the path is exposed (we can read the whole path).

Like this:
We need to be able to see the yellow highlighted information and the file names.

https://i.imgur.com/4p9MbAX.png

[TSGEvans]

Originally posted by Pte Jack:

Take a screenshot of the folder where the VMTs and VTFs are located in Windows File Explorer making sure the path is exposed (we can read the whole path).

Like this:
We need to be able to see the yellow highlighted information and the file names.

https://i.imgur.com/4p9MbAX.png

I have the entire set here. qc and vmts open as well. This imgur link should work

https://imgur.com/a/9yyKRtu

[R234]

Originally posted by TSGEvans:

I have the entire set here. qc and vmts open as well. This imgur link should work

https://imgur.com/a/9yyKRtu

In the QC file, the "models" folder shouldn't be included in the $modelname line, it's assumed in the filepath, which is why your model currently needs to be in a nested "models/models" configuration. I'd suggest fixing that for cleanliness' sake.

The $cdmaterials line, which tells Source where to find the VMTs, is missing from the QC: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/$cdmaterials

Skypop_plane_nrm.vmt is using the LightMappedGeneric shader which is not compatible with models, it's a static map brush shader. Change it to VertexLitGeneric.

Is there a specific reason why these two materials are separate? It would also be nice to see how the materials are mapped to the model in Blender (or whatever program you use to model), as well as their names in the materials tab.

[TSGEvans]

Originally posted by R234:

Originally posted by TSGEvans:

I have the entire set here. qc and vmts open as well. This imgur link should work

https://imgur.com/a/9yyKRtu

In the QC file, the "models" folder shouldn't be included in the $modelname line, it's assumed in the filepath, which is why your model currently needs to be in a nested "models/models" configuration. I'd suggest fixing that for cleanliness' sake.

The $cdmaterials line, which tells Source where to find the VMTs, is missing from the QC: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/$cdmaterials

Skypop_plane_nrm.vmt is using the LightMappedGeneric shader which is not compatible with models, it's a static map brush shader. Change it to VertexLitGeneric.

Is there a specific reason why these two materials are separate? It would also be nice to see how the materials are mapped to the model in Blender (or whatever program you use to model), as well as their names in the materials tab.

the "Nrm" texture is a bumpmap. I'll give what you said a try.

Not only that, but the model is from a friend. I'm not entirely sure if he simply made the model in blender or otherwise.

[R234]

Originally posted by TSGEvans:

the "Nrm" texture is a bumpmap.

That much I figured. I'm talking about the materials (VMT files), not the textures (VTF files). Both of them have the same base texture. One of them has phong (with half the parameters missing), envmap and a superfluous deactivated selfillum. The other one only has the normal map. I don't really see why these would need to be separate, aside from the envmap perhaps? Even that can be masked by a texture's alpha, though.

With that and the errors about missing materials called "material" and "textured" you mentioned in the OP, the whole thing seems kinda messy...

[TSGEvans]

Originally posted by R234:

Originally posted by TSGEvans:

the "Nrm" texture is a bumpmap.

That much I figured. I'm talking about the materials (VMT files), not the textures (VTF files). Both of them have the same base texture. One of them has phong (with half the parameters missing), envmap and a superfluous deactivated selfillum. The other one only has the normal map. I don't really see why these would need to be separate, aside from the envmap perhaps? Even that can be masked by a texture's alpha, though.

With that and the errors about missing materials called "material" and "textured" you mentioned in the OP, the whole thing seems kinda messy...

Needless to say, I know little to nothing about texturing or importing custom models. first time doing it on this scale in fact.

I'm having the same strange lighting issue to a lesser extent with some civil protection textures.

If you'd be willing to lend a hand in any way possible with a VTF, that would be most appreciated. I can even provide screenshot samples of the issue I'm talking about.

[Pte Jack]

This is merely a suggestion but this is what is wrong with your model's textures and qc

https://i.imgur.com/JEZOhP0.png

[R234]

Yeah, at this point we really need to see what the model looks like in a modelling program. We don't know what the materials are called (this is important because the path used by Source is a composite of the material names and the CDmaterials QC command, meaning if the path is already baked in the material names - as it seems to be here - we'd end up with a bunch of nested folders) and we don't know what parts of the model they're assigned to. Maybe your friend can send you the project file?

I suppose a screenshot of what the model currently looks like in SFM could help, too.

Originally posted by TSGEvans:

I'm having the same strange lighting issue to a lesser extent with some civil protection textures.

"Civil protection textures"? What's that?

[TSGEvans]

Originally posted by R234:

Yeah, at this point we really need to see what the model looks like in a modelling program. We don't know what the materials are called (this is important because the path used by Source is a composite of the material names and the CDmaterials QC command, meaning if the path is already baked in the material names - as it seems to be here - we'd end up with a bunch of nested folders) and we don't know what parts of the model they're assigned to. Maybe your friend can send you the project file?

I suppose a screenshot of what the model currently looks like in SFM could help, too.

Originally posted by TSGEvans:

I'm having the same strange lighting issue to a lesser extent with some civil protection textures.

"Civil protection textures"? What's that?

Originally posted by R234:

Yeah, at this point we really need to see what the model looks like in a modelling program. We don't know what the materials are called (this is important because the path used by Source is a composite of the material names and the CDmaterials QC command, meaning if the path is already baked in the material names - as it seems to be here - we'd end up with a bunch of nested folders) and we don't know what parts of the model they're assigned to. Maybe your friend can send you the project file?

I suppose a screenshot of what the model currently looks like in SFM could help, too.

Originally posted by TSGEvans:

I'm having the same strange lighting issue to a lesser extent with some civil protection textures.

"Civil protection textures"? What's that?

I’ll try to get the project file over soon.at least for the “skypop_Plane” model.


The “civil protection textures” are just the police from half life. I have custom textures for those I need to fix as well.

Is there any other form of contact I can get you by? Discord perhaps?

[TSGEvans]

Originally posted by R234:

Yeah, at this point we really need to see what the model looks like in a modelling program. We don't know what the materials are called (this is important because the path used by Source is a composite of the material names and the CDmaterials QC command, meaning if the path is already baked in the material names - as it seems to be here - we'd end up with a bunch of nested folders) and we don't know what parts of the model they're assigned to. Maybe your friend can send you the project file?

I suppose a screenshot of what the model currently looks like in SFM could help, too.

Originally posted by TSGEvans:

I'm having the same strange lighting issue to a lesser extent with some civil protection textures.

"Civil protection textures"? What's that?

I have a link here of what the models look like.

The textured and bright one on the left is using the override option in SFM. the one on the left is how it is naturally.


in blender, its all fully textured and lighting looks to be just fine as well.

[R234]

I think you forgot the actual link.