Too many materials used, max 32 even though I have 32 (CROWBAR)

[THN Productions]

My previous discussion died, and the titular question was answered anyway.
Been trying to compile this model for a couple of days now and it's telling me I have too many materials, even though I have the maximum amount. I previously got this error when I had too many materials, so I deleted them and used similar ones. Making multiple objects use similar materials in stead of separate ones. I'm trying to compile to a MDL so the view/preview will be blank.
Textures: https://gyazo.com/aeb458e71897f6106fa91b5298671b7d
VMTs and VTFs: https://gyazo.com/69e5f30cf98ab66ae4f3ad46c661eb5c
https://gyazo.com/95eec309c69f98a5f6fd9457b6fc5587

[Pte Jack]

I split the screen and changed the display to Property panel....Go to around 9:30 and you'll see me do it.

[THN Productions]

I'm aware of that, It's just that my textures tab doesn't have a list of textures like yours.

[Pte Jack]

Is your model textured with image files or did they just paint the thing in Blender (which is a possibility.They only used Blender materials and coloured the bus OR the bus was created in Cycles and uses nodes.) Are there png/dds/tga/jpg files with the model or are the colour swatches on the materials tab coloured?

If the model uses blender painting and the colour swatches are being used to paint the model ( and there are no image texture files), then you're going to have to bake the textures to create them. The baked textures will have to converted to VTF files because they are required for porting to SFM.

[green]

Originally posted by TimmyHeadNose:

I'm aware of that, It's just that my textures tab doesn't have a list of textures like yours.

Also, make sure you have the mesh selected, and not the skeleton.

[THN Productions]

Some of it is textured with image files while some where painted. I can make it all textured with image files if that's a problem. I did use the Cycle render engine while texturing it, and it uses nodes. Though, I'm not sure what you mean by "Are there png/dds/tga/jpg files with the model or are the colour swatches on the materials tab coloured?"

I do have the mesh selected (I do if having the "skeleton" selected means all parts of the model, uncluding things outside one mesh).

[Pte Jack]

The parts painted with images (png/jpg/dds/tga/etc..) Those images have to be converted to VTF images for Valve models. The parts painted in cycles with Blender colours via your nodes, those textures will have to be baked into some sort of image (png/dds/jpg/tga,etc) then they also have to be converted to vtf images.

[THN Productions]

I have all the unique textures saved as PNGs though. And all of them were converted to VTF. I can just make the colored ones use the pngs, right?
All of what I painted I saved as a png.

[Pte Jack]

Correct, the pngs should be able to be used if you did not change the UV layouts that use them and if the others are just solid colours, you can just create a 64x64 square png/vtf of the colour and use those. The important thing is to get the material count in Blender under 32.

[THN Productions]

Okay, I'll make sure all materials use the image texture, then I'll get back to the tutorial if my textures tab looks as it should.
And another question, can all of the VMTs and VTFs added together equal more than 32?

[Zappy]

Originally posted by TimmyHeadNose:

- And another question, can all of the VMTs and VTFs added together equal more than 32?

A model can use up to 32 VMTs, but each VMT can use as many VTFs as it wants to without any hard limits.

[THN Productions]

Okay! Cause I heard somewhere a while back that you can only have 16 of both, so that's good to hear.

[Pte Jack]

Go here https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Material and read.
Then start selecting links if you want more information.

[THN Productions]

Alright! I got the hang of it! So do we delete the materials that aren't being used by the unlink data block thing? It won't count it as a material anymore, right?
https://gyazo.com/160a02679463be8c60579a8624739eae

[Pte Jack]

No! Not using the unlink Data block thing...

Like this

https://i.imgur.com/w2Y32jT.png

If your menu in the drop down is not like the one in the picture above, then you don't have the Material: Materials Utils Specials Add-on turned on, see this picture on how to turn it on.

https://i.imgur.com/okawSTz.png

[THN Productions]

Done it, thanks!