Lack of voice chat killing this game

[Doom MD]

Absolutely blows my mind there isn’t some kind of proximity voice chat. Baffling exclusion. I know the devs claim they tried it and it “was a mess”. One of the people on here suggested I try Holdfast and holy crap what an absolute delight of a game. The voice chat makes that game an absolute blast. A huge missed opportunity.

[Valfossa]

I've never really understood developers that remove options like voice chat, or in some cases removing all chat functionality altogether.

Usually these options are optional. If you don't want voice chat or text chat then turn it off. But just removing voice chat is...a strange decision, a decision which more seem to be making lately.

If someone is going to say something bad, then everyone that has text chat on is going to see it. And again if someone is yelling in your ear, then just add a option to turn them off using the scoreboard system in the game.

[Archdeacon Monseigneur]

knowing how easily people get banned for wrongspeech in this game just via the text chat, i wouldn't be surprised if they removed it because people occasionally cursed on the mic, or god forbid, spam the n-word oooo the ghostly haunting spooky n-word.

[Doom MD]

Originally posted by Punished JaggSauce:

knowing how easily people get banned for wrongspeech in this game just via the text chat, i wouldn't be surprised if they removed it because people occasionally cursed on the mic, or god forbid, spam the n-word oooo the ghostly haunting spooky n-word.

Imagine being terrified of hearing a word while playing a game where you can dismember someone and hear their dying screams

[Padds]

lol im sure it would add a certain depth and flavour

[Padds]

Originally posted by Doom MD:

Imagine being terrified of hearing a word while playing a game where you can dismember someone and hear their dying screams

imagine wanting to here low quality verbal over a cheap mic from some mouth breather , the sound of someone munching cheetos, dogs barking, kids crying parents shouting at thier kids and everything else of value and worth that gets shared over these setups when they exist.

now look ive travelled and im not judging im into some pretty off the beaten track ♥♥♥♥ myself, if you find someone shouting at you helps arrive at a certain state there are communities you can join where they are real good at it.

[Doom MD]

Originally posted by Padds:

Originally posted by Doom MD:

Imagine being terrified of hearing a word while playing a game where you can dismember someone and hear their dying screams

imagine wanting to here low quality verbal over a cheap mic from some mouth breather , the sound of someone munching cheetos, dogs barking, kids crying parents shouting at thier kids and everything else of value and worth that gets shared over these setups when they exist.

now look ive travelled and im not judging im into some pretty off the beaten track ♥♥♥♥ myself, if you find someone shouting at you helps arrive at a certain state there are communities you can join where they are real good at it.

So turn it off if you don’t like it. Or put in a feature to mute specific people. These features have existed for literally decades. I can’t even imagine the mental space someone must be in to applaud the removal of what is a ubiquitous feature in online gaming. There’s no excuse for its absence.

[Coccolino_O The Fluffy Bear]

I can only imagine what voice chat would be. Played too many online games so I'm not delusional. If chiv1 and mordhau survived without it this game will be fine, too.

[justfaded]

I'm pretty sure it's because they're a small company trying to make a cross platform game. Sony and Microsoft have a lot of requirements for cross platform games and for a smaller company, that's too many hurdles. So they probably said f it and no chat for consoles and no mics for everybody (because consoles).

At least we have cross platform, probably the main thing that will keep the game alive in the future.

[Horrid]

I don't know if you have ever read the lobby voicechat, but hell no to that in my ears. Plus ppl get triggered and super toxic very easily in chiv.

[Sir Ivar of Cockburn]

Holdfast is a tactical game, which requires voice chat.
A casual melee slasher does not. I bet the average player age is <16 based on the amount of archers in the game. And the average mental age is even lower. It's just gonna be kids screeching and playing meme songs/mumble rap like in other casual games with VC.
If you wanna talk to someone, Discord provides a higher quality service for free.

[Doom MD]

Originally posted by Horrid:

I don't know if you have ever read the lobby voicechat, but hell no to that in my ears. Plus ppl get triggered and super toxic very easily in chiv.

>triggered
>super toxic

Your buzzwords are not an argument. If it’s a feature that can be disabled then there’s absolutely no reason to argue against its implementation. I want to interact with human beings and not simply play against outsourced AI

[Doom MD]

Originally posted by Ivarr Odinsson:

Holdfast is a tactical game, which requires voice chat.
A casual melee slasher does not. I bet the average player age is <16 based on the amount of archers in the game. And the average mental age is even lower. It's just gonna be kids screeching and playing meme songs/mumble rap like in other casual games with VC.
If you wanna talk to someone, Discord provides a higher quality service for free.

Why would I want to outsource voice chat to a third party? Again, if you don’t like the content of voice chat just disable it. Simple as. The game feels boring and lifeless without being able to talk to other people.

[Doom MD]

Originally posted by justfaded:

I'm pretty sure it's because they're a small company trying to make a cross platform game. Sony and Microsoft have a lot of requirements for cross platform games and for a smaller company, that's too many hurdles. So they probably said f it and no chat for consoles and no mics for everybody (because consoles).

At least we have cross platform, probably the main thing that will keep the game alive in the future.

You see, this would be an explanation I could at least understand.

[Sir Ivar of Cockburn]

Originally posted by Doom MD:

Originally posted by Ivarr Odinsson:

Holdfast is a tactical game, which requires voice chat.
A casual melee slasher does not. I bet the average player age is <16 based on the amount of archers in the game. And the average mental age is even lower. It's just gonna be kids screeching and playing meme songs/mumble rap like in other casual games with VC.
If you wanna talk to someone, Discord provides a higher quality service for free.

Why would I want to outsource voice chat to a third party? Again, if you don’t like the content of voice chat just disable it. Simple as. The game feels boring and lifeless without being able to talk to other people.

Why would the devs bother implementing voice chat (not free) so that you and other dumb kids can call each other slurs if you refuse to use an already existing free alternative?
Dunno man, seems like you are just unwilling to compromise. It's not like Tornbanner are forcing you to live in dungeon cell with no human contact. There's a discord, reddit, steam forums, pretty sure you can find like-minded edgelords there.

[Padds]

Originally posted by Doom MD:

So turn it off if you don’t like it. Or put in a feature to mute specific people. These features have existed for literally decades. I can’t even imagine the mental space someone must be in to applaud the removal of what is a ubiquitous feature in online gaming. There’s no excuse for its absence.

time, money , bandwidth , server load, duty of moderation theres 5.

i wasnt applauding its removal , no one is because it hasnt been removed, i wasnt even applauding its absence just surprised anyone wanted it and pointed out there are better places to go if you just enjoy being degraded .