MJ is the typical toxic woman in a relationship

[Ameno]

If the writers wanted to make an ultra toxic character then they succeeded, , his answers to pete in particular the "need to talk" literally a minute after "I'm not ready to talk" the fact of Voluntarily put in a situation of danger and therefore risking the life of peter (the hall) all this proves at best that she is just immature, at worst ultra toxic. And since she decides to be a strong character but badly written (it's not replay of aliens lol) well we have to play her in infiltration phases with boring gameplay.

What do you think of this character ? Personally if I base myself on the animated series of 94 closest to the comics in my opinion as well as the films of sam raimi, this character is respected in his toxicity lol

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

peter cooks for them in her flat. gets a call. spidey you need to f4ucking fight crime with your superpowers. COMON!

changes immediately into his spider costume, tries to move into action. leaves the meal on the stove.

MJ: did you leave your clothes on the floor?

he goes back, gets his clothes and asks politely where to put them. -.-

after the tragic casting of sendayaya or whatever the f4uck here name is, we got this "imagination" of MJ for the game.

[Orion Invictus]

I think it's a fairly common relationship problem.

MJ thinks that Peter can be overprotective, which makes her feel useless, which makes her lash out against him. She's a journalist (investigative journalist at that), it's her job to go into dangerous situations and get the facts.

Peter wants her to be safe, but didn't think about how she'd feel when he's always saving her and basically preventing her from doing her job (because it involves danger).

MJ even apologizes to Peter for being rude to him. They have an honest conversation about this at that point. So I really don't understand the "toxic" part. The issue was lack of communication.

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

i rly hope they kill her off in the sequel and we get an alternate version in which peter meets gwen stacy, rescues her and has a healthy relationship with her.

[Iggy Wolf]

Feels like people are projecting their hatred of MJ based on the fact she looks and acts similar to the MJ in Raimi's films. Thing is, this MJ is actually proactive and has a job and is actually USEFUL as Peter's partner. Just because Raimi's MJ was a drama queen who complained more and was more often a damsel in distress, doesn't mean people should project that attitude and mentality on this MJ.

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

Originally posted by Iggy Wolf:

Feels like people are projecting their hatred of MJ based on the fact she looks and acts similar to the MJ in Raimi's films. Thing is, this MJ is actually proactive and has a job and is actually USEFUL as Peter's partner. Just because Raimi's MJ was a drama queen who complained more and was more often a damsel in distress, doesn't mean people should project that attitude and mentality on this MJ.

please, watch the movies again and tell me with a straight face that the movie version and the game version are in any way, shape or form similar.

movie MJ is supportive and tries hard to be successful in her on way by not taking part in any risky behavior and she is never annoying. you just feel that she truly cares about peter.

game MJ is mostly concerned about herself and no one else. consequences are nothing she has to think about. sad that you have to retry game sections with her when she gets caught.

wouldn't mind her needing spideys help when she gets captured. maybe then she would learn.

[Ameno]

Originally posted by Sm0k3f47h3r:

Originally posted by Iggy Wolf:

Feels like people are projecting their hatred of MJ based on the fact she looks and acts similar to the MJ in Raimi's films. Thing is, this MJ is actually proactive and has a job and is actually USEFUL as Peter's partner. Just because Raimi's MJ was a drama queen who complained more and was more often a damsel in distress, doesn't mean people should project that attitude and mentality on this MJ.

please, watch the movies again and tell me with a straight face that the movie version and the game version are in any way, shape or form similar.

movie MJ is supportive and tries hard to be successful in her on way by not taking part in any risky behavior and she is never annoying. you just feel that she truly cares about peter.

game MJ is mostly concerned about herself and no one else. consequences are nothing she has to think about. said that you have to retry game sections with her when she gets caught.

wouldn't mind her needing spideys help when she gets captured. maybe then she would learn.

that's exactly what i think

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Sm0k3f47h3r:

Originally posted by Iggy Wolf:

Feels like people are projecting their hatred of MJ based on the fact she looks and acts similar to the MJ in Raimi's films. Thing is, this MJ is actually proactive and has a job and is actually USEFUL as Peter's partner. Just because Raimi's MJ was a drama queen who complained more and was more often a damsel in distress, doesn't mean people should project that attitude and mentality on this MJ.

please, watch the movies again and tell me with a straight face that the movie version and the game version are in any way, shape or form similar.

movie MJ is supportive and tries hard to be successful in her on way by not taking part in any risky behavior and she is never annoying. you just feel that she truly cares about peter.

game MJ is mostly concerned about herself and no one else. consequences are nothing she has to think about. said that you have to retry game sections with her when she gets caught.

wouldn't mind her needing spideys help when she gets captured. maybe then she would learn.

You're making the same mistake as Peter.

Why can't she have a job that involves risk? Because Peter wouldn't like it? And why wouldn't she be upset when Peter keeps her from doing her job? Danger is part of her job.

She supports him, it's why she does research for him whenever he asks. Hell, some of the situations in which she's placing herself in harm's way are because she's supporting him.

[Ameno]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Sm0k3f47h3r:

please, watch the movies again and tell me with a straight face that the movie version and the game version are in any way, shape or form similar.

movie MJ is supportive and tries hard to be successful in her on way by not taking part in any risky behavior and she is never annoying. you just feel that she truly cares about peter.

game MJ is mostly concerned about herself and no one else. consequences are nothing she has to think about. said that you have to retry game sections with her when she gets caught.

wouldn't mind her needing spideys help when she gets captured. maybe then she would learn.

You're making the same mistake as Peter.

Why can't she have a job that involves risk? Because Peter wouldn't like it? And why wouldn't she be upset when Peter keeps her from doing her job? Danger is part of her job.

She supports him, it's why she does research for him whenever he asks. Hell, some of the situations in which she's placing herself in harm's way are because she's supporting him.

You can support someone by accepting your weaknesses and playing the adult that's how it works in life she's not 14 I think...

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Ameno:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

You're making the same mistake as Peter.

Why can't she have a job that involves risk? Because Peter wouldn't like it? And why wouldn't she be upset when Peter keeps her from doing her job? Danger is part of her job.

She supports him, it's why she does research for him whenever he asks. Hell, some of the situations in which she's placing herself in harm's way are because she's supporting him.

You can support someone by accepting your weaknesses and playing the adult that's how it works in life she's not 14 I think...

She has a job (I think that's an adult thing, right?) and she asks for Peter's help when she needs it (i.e.: knows and accepts her limitations). What exactly do you think she should do differently?

[Ameno]

stop being stupid and stop pretending to be a superhero or a navy seal by going to the heart of danger and being taken hostage ?

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by Ameno:

stop being stupid and stop pretending to be a superhero or a navy seal by going to the heart of danger and being taken hostage ?

She's an investigative journalist, it's part of her job description to go into dangerous situations.

Like the other guy, you're making the same mistakes as Peter.

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Sm0k3f47h3r:

please, watch the movies again and tell me with a straight face that the movie version and the game version are in any way, shape or form similar.

movie MJ is supportive and tries hard to be successful in her on way by not taking part in any risky behavior and she is never annoying. you just feel that she truly cares about peter.

game MJ is mostly concerned about herself and no one else. consequences are nothing she has to think about. said that you have to retry game sections with her when she gets caught.

wouldn't mind her needing spideys help when she gets captured. maybe then she would learn.

You're making the same mistake as Peter.

Why can't she have a job that involves risk? Because Peter wouldn't like it? And why wouldn't she be upset when Peter keeps her from doing her job? Danger is part of her job.

She supports him, it's why she does research for him whenever he asks. Hell, some of the situations in which she's placing herself in harm's way are because she's supporting him.

no, i don't. i had my fair share of women in my life to know that being in peters shoes, i would run for the woods and find someone i can have a wholesome relationship with.

i hope the writers let him learn too and understand that. sadly they will not.

but speaking of mistakes:

i watched mad max because i wanted max to kick a4ss. what did i get instead? mad furiosa and a gun less, car less max.

i bought spiderman because i want to kick a4ss as spiderman seeing him struggle a little bit in his private life. i didn't buy the game to have his love interest running around trying to be a hero just because that is somehow "in" now.

i mean, if you for some reason like this abomination then i am happy for you but please don't try to convince us that this depiction of MJ is characteristic for her or good for peter.

btw: since when is MJ Lois Lane anyway?

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

Originally posted by Ameno:

stop being stupid and stop pretending to be a superhero or a navy seal by going to the heart of danger and being taken hostage ?

She's an investigative journalist, it's part of her job description to go into dangerous situations.

Like the other guy, you're making the same mistakes as Peter.

too much experience in that department to make mistakes my friend. i am glad you continue giving me steam points. your arguments do net get better this way.

here is a "whoa" for you =)

[Ameno]

Originally posted by Sm0k3f47h3r:

Originally posted by Orion Invictus:

She's an investigative journalist, it's part of her job description to go into dangerous situations.

Like the other guy, you're making the same mistakes as Peter.

too much experience in that department to make mistakes my friend. i am glad you continue giving me steam points. your arguments do net get better this way.

that's me xD

[Sm0k3f47h3r]

one more thing and then i am done:

if you want a strong female protagonist and it has to be MJ, then give her superpowers too. easy. make a whole dlc just about her and then everybody is happy.

she could be female spidergirl/woman. you could give her even her own game.