Zaku nerfs but no Dom nerfs?

[Midnight]

Dom does better in every situation than Zaku Melee. It's not even close. Ult does the same thing and it does better at range. Does really well at close range too. Delusional community thinks Zaku is better because they clump up like monkeys and give it free range and a team wipe. Guess what? Dom can do that without the clumping up. Get good and realize that Zaku Melee is at best A tier. Pit it against a coordinated team and you struggle hard. "Name checks out" I'm platinum + in almost every game I play. Go sit down.

[Just Life]

Zaku Melee ult "can" team wipe while Dom's ult is great for pushing. There only been a few time where I can team wipe with with Dom's ult but that was when the Sun, Moon, and Stars lined up and the enemy team where in a tunnel/being funneled.

[Weltall8000]

Seems like Dom is underrated. It looks less menacing...I guess...?

[Midnight]

Originally posted by Just Life:

Zaku Melee ult "can" team wipe while Dom's ult is great for pushing. There only been a few time where I can team wipe with with Dom's ult but that was when the Sun, Moon, and Stars lined up and the enemy team where in a tunnel/being funneled.

Dom can absolutely wipe teams, but it doesn't need to. You have an armor gun and braindead ranged poke with the hitscan laser. Dom is far stronger overall.
Additonally, Dom wins 1v1s against Zaku unless Zaku has rage. Test it.

[Just Life]

Originally posted by Weltall8000:

Seems like Dom is underrated. It looks less menacing...I guess...?

The Number 1 player for the network test was a Dom main and he did show case why Dom is good. Only a few things hold Dom back and one of those thing is a bug that happen often where once revived after being down by your own splash damage, you can't shoot your main weapon.

Mines are a hit or a miss depending on who you talk to. Some find them useful, other argue they are useless for the most part.

[Just Life]

Originally posted by Silver:

Originally posted by Just Life:

Zaku Melee ult "can" team wipe while Dom's ult is great for pushing. There only been a few time where I can team wipe with with Dom's ult but that was when the Sun, Moon, and Stars lined up and the enemy team where in a tunnel/being funneled.

Dom can absolutely wipe teams, but it doesn't need to. You have an armor gun and braindead ranged poke with the hitscan laser. Dom is far stronger overall.
Additonally, Dom wins 1v1s against Zaku unless Zaku has rage. Test it.

I agree Dom is great (Dom is one of the suits I main) and I have a understanding on the ins and out of it kit. Not going to argue about who kit is better but Zaku Melee main drawing point is it Ult which can team wipe and steal matches.

Dom Ult can help enable a push to win but it can't 1v6 a team to clear/steal a point.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by Just Life:

Originally posted by Weltall8000:

Seems like Dom is underrated. It looks less menacing...I guess...?

The Number 1 player for the network test was a Dom main and he did show case why Dom is good. Only a few things hold Dom back and one of those thing is a bug that happen often where once revived after being down by your own splash damage, you can't shoot your main weapon.

Mines are a hit or a miss depending on who you talk to. Some find them useful, other argue they are useless for the most part.

Most of the characters I've tried have a bug like that. Just got it with Zaku Melee when spawning lol

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Lol youre ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trolling.

[Just Life]

Originally posted by Fair²:

Lol youre ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trolling.

He kinda isn't. Zaku Melee falls off at higher level of play. When playing with a experienced team, they know how to deny Zaku Melee resources. At those level of play, Marasai will focus on a Zaku Melee and bully it till they swap since Zaku Melee dies to it hook combo.

At lower ranks and casual, not many people know how to fight Zaku Melee mainly due to know being able to try it out in training to understand it kits.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by Just Life:

Originally posted by Silver:

Dom can absolutely wipe teams, but it doesn't need to. You have an armor gun and braindead ranged poke with the hitscan laser. Dom is far stronger overall.
Additonally, Dom wins 1v1s against Zaku unless Zaku has rage. Test it.

I agree Dom is great (Dom is one of the suits I main) and I have a understanding on the ins and out of it kit. Not going to argue about who kit is better but Zaku Melee main drawing point is it Ult which can team wipe and steal matches.

Dom Ult can help enable a push to win but it can't 1v6 a team to clear/steal a point.

It's just bizarre to me how people completely ignore Turn A which can ult the same way (and arguably better because you're in the air, thus harder to hit) and get ult % faster with ranged attacks. Yes you don't ult in a circle but the burst is so obscene that you may as well. Not to mention Turn A's janky af stun which has a wider hitbox than most American mothers. Zaku has no utility apart from MAYBE blocking damage with E, and banks on getting rage to kill more than 1 person, and transitions into ult. With all the stuns and damage in the game Zaku should never be able to do anything, and even in casual games this happens a fair amount.

A fantastic example of why this is happening is most players being ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and being unable to improve against a character. Seen examples of this in League of Legends where people just can't learn how to space in lane against a specific champion, and 24/7 complain that the champion needs nerfs. Same thing here. Most players ♥♥♥♥, developers see the common "consensus", and slap some nerfs. Casual games where everyone piles up like they've been thirsting for an orgy all year shouldn't be the basis for buffing and nerfing. "Oh but they have a slightly higher winrate" 2-3% higher winrate argument is a joke. 2-3%? I honestly expect a higher winrate in orgy clump up Zaku ult teamwipe elo.

[Midnight]

Originally posted by Fair²:

Lol youre ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trolling.

Play Dom against a Zaku. Then tell me I'm trolling.

[carver]

Originally posted by Silver:

Ult does the same thing and it does better at range.

Name checks out. This is how we know you don't actually play Dom.

[carver]

Originally posted by Just Life:

Originally posted by Fair²:

Lol youre ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trolling.

He kinda isn't. Zaku Melee falls off at higher level of play. When playing with a experienced team, they know how to deny Zaku Melee resources. At those level of play, Marasai will focus on a Zaku Melee and bully it till they swap since Zaku Melee dies to it hook combo.

He kind of is. The only thing he's correct on is that Melee gets bullied out against better teams, he's completely wrong about this idea that Dom's ult is anywhere close to the teamwiping ♥♥♥♥ that melee zaku's is. That ult struggles to hit even one person, let alone six.

Turn A which can ult the same way (and arguably better because you're in the air, thus harder to hit)

this is notoriously easy to shoot out of the air on most maps

Turn A's janky af stun which has a wider hitbox than most American mothers

and this is objectively wrong, turn a's grab has an awful hitbox and you can simply dash out of it on reaction

[Just Life]

Originally posted by starvino:

Originally posted by Just Life:

He kinda isn't. Zaku Melee falls off at higher level of play. When playing with a experienced team, they know how to deny Zaku Melee resources. At those level of play, Marasai will focus on a Zaku Melee and bully it till they swap since Zaku Melee dies to it hook combo.

He kind of is. The only thing he's correct on is that Melee gets bullied out against better teams, he's completely wrong about this idea that Dom's ult is anywhere close to the teamwiping ♥♥♥♥ that melee zaku's is. That ult struggles to hit even one person, let alone six.

We can agree on that, also called out on the Ult comparison as well.

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Dom players when they see a shield:

[RX-3DR]

The Dom's bulky hitbox and 1 dodge means it gets melted trying to contest a point. Mines don't help you with a push and you can't Armor yourself so it has very little Objective pushing capability.

A Zaku M can stall a contested point by dodging around obstacles, BRB-ing for a definite 2 second stall and potentially buff itself with damage and a shield.

There's a reason why you don't see Dom players pushing towards the enemy's spawn point to intercept and stall their advance.