Not really a Gundam game

[ImplosiveErection]

lets be honest, this is just a hero shooter where Gundams happen to be the heroes. It's made for people who like hero shooters and not for people who like Gundam games. i like both, so imma play it, my only concern is that i just hope it doesn't kill any future Gundam games .-.

[fourskulls]

My first thought watching this game was, "why don't they let you customize your ace as well as the mech?" Like face it, they could make more money if you could customize the actual pilots of those suits. For some reason though, they decided the MS was the character and forgot about the actual pilots.

I did hear some voices that sounded like iconic characters, but it was just generic chatter.

[Id]

starvino eredeti hozzászólása:

Id eredeti hozzászólása:

maybe you need to rewatch and stop trolling because no one else 100 percent loves the games you love

maybe you need to watch the anime at all, he spends the entirety of one of the first fights holding the gun exactly like he does in the game, even when he gets the shield later he's STILL doing cool poses before he shoots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emtWbDX0KN0

quit begging for anime accuracy and then getting mad they were anime accurate but not in the way you asked them to be

Lestrad eredeti hozzászólása:

Ignoring the fact that "basically" and "they are" are two very different descriptors with very different meanings:

- both games are shooters
- both games involve the Gundam license
- both games are team-based
- both games are strictly multiplayer online
- both games lack a single player component (no, Code Fairy does not count)
- both games lack a pve/co-op component

So, you're right, they are not remotely the same thing.

Battle Operation:
-Third Person Shooter with locational (Head/Leg) damage, units can be knocked down and exited from, you can steal an enemy suit
-Slower than two turtles having sex, closer to Mechwarrior than an actual Gundam game
-You can have more than one Zaku or RX-78-2 because the game doesn't limit that
-You get points for winning the match by killing dudes, even in objective modes. Bomb can be won by deathmatching better
-Damaging enemies heavily enough will invoke a stun, even with small arms
-Units that die do not have a revive phase
-You can respawn as your pilot or in your suit, the map has vehicles like tanks on it
-HP does not automatically regen, it has to be manually repaired by a pilot
-Units can have their weapons swapped out and their stats upgraded, multiple versions of the same unit exist and higher level versions have higher stats
-Acquisition of new characters is (generally) RNG
-Dashing will put a forced cooldown on most characters since it uses the entire boost bar

Gundam Evolution:
-First person shooter with no locational damage, units simply have a single health bar, although leg shots have a damage nerf of 25% and headshots do more damage. You cannot cripple a Sazabi by shooting his legs because the game doesn't work like that.
-You can't knock people down with a zook and most suits don't even have melee weapons either.
-Relatively fast for an FPS game. Closer to Hawken or the old SDGO.
-You cannot have more than one Zaku, if someone picks him you need to play someone else
-You do not get points for winning the match for killing dudes, you need to actually do the objective and that's non negotiable or you lose. Bomb can't be won just by killing dudes.
-Weapons will never stun an enemy, unless it's a specific ability like the Hyper Hammer. A machinegun won't eventually force a stun.
-Units that die have a revive phase.
-You revive as your chosen suit, but you can change your character mid match in this but not in GBO. There are no map vehicles you can use.
-HP automatically regens and there are health kits on the map that will heal you. Some characters can heal other players.
-You can't alter stats or weapons in any numerical way.
-You get a new character by going to the menu and buying the specific character you want.
-Dashing is a universal mechanic, all suits can do it and it doesn't put a forced cooldown on them when they do it, although some suits only have one. Even on those, you can just do half a dash instead.


if the extent of your ability to think was "BUT DEY BOTH GOT DA GUNDAM WITH DA GUN" so therefore they must be the same thing then I really do wonder how you pay taxes. Yeah Counterstrike and Battlefield both have an M16 in it with two teams but they're nothing alike. Is this really how Americans think?

One fight in an anime with multiple episodes doesn't prove anything, try again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUvUNaa49oI&t=415s 7:30 Gundam has shield up and gun ready to get busy.

Next time know wtf you talking about instead of shilling for a company for free. Touch some grass and sit down somewhere

[carver]

Id eredeti hozzászólása:

starvino eredeti hozzászólása:

maybe you need to watch the anime at all, he spends the entirety of one of the first fights holding the gun exactly like he does in the game, even when he gets the shield later he's STILL doing cool poses before he shoots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emtWbDX0KN0

quit begging for anime accuracy and then getting mad they were anime accurate but not in the way you asked them to be

One fight in an anime with multiple episodes doesn't prove anything, try again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUvUNaa49oI&t=415s 7:30 Gundam has shield up and gun ready to get busy.

Next time know wtf you talking about instead of shilling for a company for free. Touch some grass and sit down somewhere

You're talking about something he does a handful of times when even after Amuro became a full fledged Newtype, he was still refusing to shoot from behind the shield and instead making cool gun poses and twohanding the rifle. It's what he was most known for and even in the reanimated movie, Amuro is still holding his rifle in exactly the way he did when he first launched in the suit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y7w6NE0bIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywNJqikZCus

His tendencies of fully hiding behind the shield are so iconic that even in games where they could have him do anything, they have him hide his entire body behind the shield because that's what people remember.
https://youtu.be/Igpby2VwZJg?t=1739

Next time know wtf you talking about instead of shilling for a company for free. Touch some grass and sit down somewhere

You don't know anything. People like you complain about "anime accuracy" in games that are already anime accurate. You and your arguments are dead weight. All you wanted was to complain.

[Id]

starvino eredeti hozzászólása:

Id eredeti hozzászólása:

One fight in an anime with multiple episodes doesn't prove anything, try again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUvUNaa49oI&t=415s 7:30 Gundam has shield up and gun ready to get busy.

Next time know wtf you talking about instead of shilling for a company for free. Touch some grass and sit down somewhere

You're talking about something he does a handful of times when even after Amuro became a full fledged Newtype, he was still refusing to shoot from behind the shield and instead making cool gun poses and twohanding the rifle. It's what he was most known for and even in the reanimated movie, Amuro is still holding his rifle in exactly the way he did when he first launched in the suit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y7w6NE0bIY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywNJqikZCus

His tendencies of fully hiding behind the shield are so iconic that even in games where they could have him do anything, they have him hide his entire body behind the shield because that's what people remember.
https://youtu.be/Igpby2VwZJg?t=1739

Next time know wtf you talking about instead of shilling for a company for free. Touch some grass and sit down somewhere

You don't know anything. People like you complain about "anime accuracy" in games that are already anime accurate. You and your arguments are dead weight. All you wanted was to complain.

I showed proof and you thought you could get around it and started rambling. Point was whether or not he did it and I just showed that he did, which means he should be able to do the same thing in EVO.

Good luck shilling for free though. I'm sure Bamco appreciates all of their loyal followers.

[carver]

Id eredeti hozzászólása:

I showed proof

Your argument was "omg idiot you showed ONE FIGHT" and that argument works against you more than it works against me. You had an entire ELEVEN MINUTE VIDEO of a guy showing clips from this show and all you could point out was a single moment seven minutes in.

You're dead weight. End of story. Your argument sucks and so do you.

[Id]

starvino eredeti hozzászólása:

Id eredeti hozzászólása:

I showed proof

Your argument was "omg idiot you showed ONE FIGHT" and that argument works against you more than it works against me. You had an entire ELEVEN MINUTE VIDEO of a guy showing clips from this show and all you could point out was a single moment seven minutes in.

You're dead weight. End of story. Your argument sucks and so do you.

Professional Trolls like you love digging themselves in deeper.

You said it didn't happen, I proved it did happen, no matter how you slice it, dance around it, you got proven wrong. Period.

Deal with it

[Id]

starvino eredeti hozzászólása:

Id eredeti hozzászólása:

Professional Trolls like you love digging themselves in deeper.

You said it didn't happen, I proved it did happen, no matter how you slice it, dance around it, you got proven wrong. Period.

Deal with it

except that's not what i said at all, but it's no surprise americans like you can't read. both you and the "these games are the same" guy completely changed their argument to be something else when they got called on it.

you cite the anime but the gundam used it's shield in exactly the way you see it do so in this game so perhaps you didn't actually watch it.

quit begging for anime accuracy and then getting mad they were anime accurate but not in the way you asked them to be

it doesn't matter if you can find one or two times he shot from behind the shield (and remember, you didn't watch this show so you got mad and assumed my clip was "from only one fight"), the point is amuro's tendency to fully hide behind the shield is what was most common and most iconic, and there's a reason he does it in this game, in MSGO, and in the reanimated movies. Even in Battle Assault he still does it. Even in the VS games.

https://youtu.be/6yDlO4wXcbo?t=75

You're dead weight. Simple as, dude. You're getting mad about something Amuro has been doing since day one and screaming about how it's "not anime accurate".

Didn't bother reading your regurgitated nonsense or watching the videogame clip that has nothing to do with anything. You said the shield was used the same way in the anime as it is in the game. In the game, only the shield is up, but in the anime clip that i posted earlier shows Amuro with the shield up and gun pointed ready to fire. It is not rocket science. You can claim I didn't watch the anime all you want because it won't get you out of your feelings for being wrong and called out on it.

Also, "you assumed my clip from only one fight". So now you can't read because I clearly said "One fight in an anime with multiple episodes doesn't prove anything, try again."

Only this time, don't try again because it's game over, no continue, I can't even call you a professional troll anymore. You're just a failed troll and a very weak one. Bamco not going to hire you. You are shilling for them for free, but Amber Turd will hire you if you shill hard enough for her because she likes hiring moronic lawyers so you would fit right in with her crew.

[carver]

Id eredeti hozzászólása:

Didn't bother reading your regurgitated nonsense or watching the videogame clip that has nothing to do with anything.

Westerners are illiterate and can't read, so this is expected.

You said the shield was used the same way in the anime as it is in the game. In the game, only the shield is up,

Which is how Amuro uses the shield constantly in both anime and in almost every game he appears in.

but in the anime clip that i posted earlier shows Amuro with the shield up and gun pointed ready to fire.

I clearly said "One fight in an anime with multiple episodes doesn't prove anything, try again."

You did exactly what you're crying about. You posted one fight in an anime with multiple episodes. It says a lot that in your eleven minute "proof" video you only had five seconds of what I was actually supposed to look at. I have more proof videos than you, which means I am superior to you.

Only this time, don't try again because it's game over, no continue, I can't even call you a professional troll anymore. You're just a failed troll and a very weak one. Bamco not going to hire you. You are shilling for them for free, but Amber Turd will hire you if you shill hard enough for her because she likes hiring moronic lawyers so you would fit right in with her crew.

There's nothing greater than knowing I can tilt losers like you into orbit simply by enjoying things. My smile fuels your rage, and nothing feels better than that.

[ARCHSIGHT]

After reading this, now I want Gundam Evolution to have a cross over for this anime.

Otome Game Sekai wa Mob ni Kibishii Sekai desu
"The best way to get revenge is to become happy yourself."

[Butler]

ImplosiveErection eredeti hozzászólása:

lets be honest, this is just a hero shooter where Gundams happen to be the heroes. It's made for people who like hero shooters and not for people who like Gundam games. i like both, so imma play it, my only concern is that i just hope it doesn't kill any future Gundam games .-.

The Sun is very large.

[legojoe]

Not sure if OP would still read but let me ask you this, what is a Gundam game? I've played a lot of Gundam games and they all fill out different kinds of genres but what is it to you is a Gundam game?

My first introduction to Gundam games was a Gundam fighting game on the PlayStation and then after that was a Japanese game, according to YouTube and Wiki, is literally called Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam on the PlayStation which is a third party shooter game. Then my next one was called SD Gundam G Generation and Super Robot Wars which both are strategy games. Fast forward to the world of mobile games, I've played quite a few of Japanese ones like G Gen Frontier, Strikers, Super Gundam Royale. Other examples are Gundam Versus and SD Gundam Online (SD Gundam Capsule Fighter - Global name) which are also third party shooters.

So with those examples, what is a Gundam 'game'? Sure this game has some weird abilities and additions to mobile suits we've not seen before but this is a hero shooter and some of the mobile suits has no displayed enough types of equipment in the original series so developers opened up some variety.

[ImplosiveErection]

legojoe eredeti hozzászólása:

Not sure if OP would still read but let me ask you this, what is a Gundam game? I've played a lot of Gundam games and they all fill out different kinds of genres but what is it to you is a Gundam game?

My first introduction to Gundam games was a Gundam fighting game on the PlayStation and then after that was a Japanese game, according to YouTube and Wiki, is literally called Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam on the PlayStation which is a third party shooter game. Then my next one was called SD Gundam G Generation and Super Robot Wars which both are strategy games. Fast forward to the world of mobile games, I've played quite a few of Japanese ones like G Gen Frontier, Strikers, Super Gundam Royale. Other examples are Gundam Versus and SD Gundam Online (SD Gundam Capsule Fighter - Global name) which are also third party shooters.

So with those examples, what is a Gundam 'game'? Sure this game has some weird abilities and additions to mobile suits we've not seen before but this is a hero shooter and some of the mobile suits has no displayed enough types of equipment in the original series so developers opened up some variety.

idfk where i was going with this tbh. most gundam games felt like some kind of more casual mechwarrior or armored core, but then after looking around, there's pretty much a gundam game for every genre. Guess most just aren't in a full fps view, so it just doesn't seem right. i guess, idfk. my worries are pretty much gone, gundam will never die lmao and really, none of the more insane gundams, like wing and 00, are added yet, except ∀, but that one is always pretty nerfed for games lmao

[ARCHSIGHT]

Technically, it's genre is a team shooter first by team DPS and skill movement positioning solves most problems. The hero shooter (which is a RPG shooter requiring the trifecta healer, tank, DPS to win)part is a sub genre of it to provide those special differences to sell the mobile suits. There's no role combination that's required to play out this game because the roles don't invalidate dps/skill entirely. This allows anyone to pick any mobile suit as long as it's not already picked to avoid most kinds of soft role stacking problems.

[Butler]

So it's a Hero shooter. LUL

ArchSight eredeti hozzászólása:

Technically, it's genre is a team shooter first by team DPS and skill movement positioning solves most problems. The hero shooter (which is a RPG shooter requiring the trifecta healer, tank, DPS to win)part is a sub genre of it to provide those special differences to sell the mobile suits. There's no role combination that's required to play out this game because the roles don't invalidate dps/skill entirely. This allows anyone to pick any mobile suit as long as it's not already picked to avoid most kinds of soft role stacking problems.

There are roles, they just aren't super defined or obviously put in the game, not in the same way you'd see in games like Overwatch with the Tank/Damage/Support role.

In this game, it's Front-Liners, Flankers, Back-Liners. You can literally categorize every Suit in this game and it fits perfectly into their role and position of the battle.

[ARCHSIGHT]

SpaceButler eredeti hozzászólása:

So it's a Hero shooter. LUL

ArchSight eredeti hozzászólása:

Technically, it's genre is a team shooter first by team DPS and skill movement positioning solves most problems. The hero shooter (which is a RPG shooter requiring the trifecta healer, tank, DPS to win)part is a sub genre of it to provide those special differences to sell the mobile suits. There's no role combination that's required to play out this game because the roles don't invalidate dps/skill entirely. This allows anyone to pick any mobile suit as long as it's not already picked to avoid most kinds of soft role stacking problems.

There are roles, they just aren't super defined or obviously put in the game, not in the same way you'd see in games like Overwatch with the Tank/Damage/Support role.

In this game, it's Front-Liners, Flankers, Back-Liners. You can literally categorize every Suit in this game and it fits perfectly into their role and position of the battle.

I did say there are roles, what I did say, "There's no role COMBINATION that's required to play out this game because the roles don't invalidate dps/skill entirely."

Kazuya Maruyama, "GUNDAM EVOLUTION" producer,
"We feel that the best way to express our gaming category is “Team Shooter” as it is well used within the FPS (first-person shooter) and TPS (third-person shooter) genre, while also holding elements of the “Hero Shooter” subgenre."
( https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1816670/view/3127191960121122120 )Steam News

All I'm doing is backing them every time I see it's just a hero shooter talk.

I hope, they're able to maintain this goal.
"Often, there is a necessity to not only select specific characters but also maintain the role of that character throughout your matches to win your battles.
For GUNDAM EVOLUTION, we wanted to provide players the freedom to select their favorite Mobile Suit Unit from their favorite Gundam Anime. Considering character balancing, map layout and the like, this was truly a difficult task for us, but one that we have been extremely passionate about since beginning development of the title.

One of the biggest focuses for our team was to give all Mobile Suit Units the ability to engage and successfully destroy their opponent using every method at their disposal. Through skillful maneuvering, tactful close-quarters combat, and full use of each skill to maximize your firepower, we aim to give every Unit the ability to turn the tide. Our overall objective was to build the title to allow all players to create flexible teams with any Unit arrangement they wish."

Read it all to find out more.